Big Blue Huddle

Quote from: brownelvis54 on November 27, 2023, 08:12:17 PMI tend to agree with you. Also, like others said Washington could be in the draft for a QB too. If Daniels is the pick I would be happy as hell...if hes gone when we pick, I like J.J. McCarthy or Bo Nix. Was a huge fan of Jones, but IMO its time to move on.

Also a fan of Jones, I think he has the arm and tools to be at least GOOD

but 2 things happened... Torn ACL .... his biggest strength was his legs.... you take that from him and hes forced to stay in the pocket..... which leads to my biggest gripes.... hes obviously shellshocked from the constant hits...... As well as his biggest weakness to me which is obvious and I cant defend anymore which his refusal to throw the ball down the field..... Devito to this point seems nowhere near as talented as Jones is when Jones is having a good game.... But Tommy (Danny) Devito gets the ball down field and he is getting killed just like Jones was...

Jones mentally is borderline done....idk if hes scared to turn it over but the dinks and dunks started to become hard to defend especially now.... and if you ever notice his feet ..he does those short fast choppy steps in the pocket ... hes shellshocked and its obvious


If hes back next year I wont be mad and I'll root for him like I always have been.... but hes got to look down field


But I also dont know if we should draft any of the QB's not Name Caleb or Maye... but im no expert thats just me

Quote from: killarich on November 29, 2023, 06:12:49 AMAlso a fan of Jones, I think he has the arm and tools to be at least GOOD

but 2 things happened... Torn ACL .... his biggest strength was his legs.... you take that from him and hes forced to stay in the pocket..... which leads to my biggest gripes.... hes obviously shellshocked from the constant hits...... As well as his biggest weakness to me which is obvious and I cant defend anymore which his refusal to throw the ball down the field..... Devito to this point seems nowhere near as talented as Jones is when Jones is having a good game.... But Tommy (Danny) Devito gets the ball down field and he is getting killed just like Jones was...

Jones mentally is borderline done....idk if hes scared to turn it over but the dinks and dunks started to become hard to defend especially now.... and if you ever notice his feet ..he does those short fast choppy steps in the pocket ... hes shellshocked and its obvious


If hes back next year I wont be mad and I'll root for him like I always have been.... but hes got to look down field


But I also dont know if we should draft any of the QB's not Name Caleb or Maye... but im no expert thats just me

Jones first year Pat Shurmur let him rip with a one read offense and he made great throws downfield. The problem was that he lacked pocket awareness and his gun slinger mentality led to some interceptions. He had a lot of turnovers but the talent was clearly there and he didn't even run much but he did have two TDs with his legs. His Y/C was high and his Y/A was good. He missed a few games and if healthy he could have been close to 4000 passing yards.

In comes JG who tries to teach him to read the field with a dumbed down Offense. He struggled behind a bad Oline and a poor Receiver Corp, and JG took the blame. In his second year in the system his competition percentage improved and was on track for 3800 yards but he got hurt again and missed six games.

In comes Daboll whose priority was to cut down on the turnovers with ball security, a Run based Offense and a short game. He did well but he was programmed not to take chances the past three years.

Then we have year four with the same shitty Oline, fear of taking chances and turnovers and the league figures out Kafka, Daboll and Jones. They make him run more to extend drives and he gets hurt again and again.

This is how you break a QB. Shurmur knew his limitations and if he had stayed in that system and worked through his difficulties, he may have become a good System QB. I don't know if DJ can be fixed. Perhaps in the right situation. The problem is that Schoen would have to be a gambler to let him play through his contract.

 

Quote from: files58 on November 27, 2023, 05:14:36 PMWe may see more of the possibility players staying because they can earn NIL money. The urgency for some may not be there. Harrison is a bit of an outlier because of his Dad's knowledge of the league.

That and already having a lot more money than the vast majority of potential draftees.