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Jim Nagy
@JimNagy_SB
NFL scouts on ground at
@UW_Football
 reporting to us that QB Michael Penix ran 4.52-4.57 range on multiple ⏱️.  He also posted 36.5 VJ and 10-6 BJ.

All three numbers are better than any QB that tested at Combine.

@themikepenix
 is only QB of "Big Six" potential first-rounders in 2024 class to run 40-yard dash. 🫡

#TheDraftStartsInMOBILE™️


As I say in the Giants scouting QBs hard, there is a large Giants contingent there to see Penix put up these impressive numbers.


https://x.com/JimNagy_SB/status/1773417087240745133?s=20

FWIW, those numbers are also better than Daniel Jones 4.81/33.5/10.0 at HIS combine.

If we draft Penix, Schoen and Daboll need to retract the Tough/Smart/Dependable mantra. I'm not saying we shouldn't draft him, as I know he has some talent, but you can't walk around preaching "dependable" if your first or second pick in the draft is a guy who has had two ACLs before age 23. I'm sorry but that would be absurd. That tagline's credibility is already on very shaky ground after giving Jones a big contract with his injury history, even prior to 2023.

Not a fan of those injuries. But I think he has been healthy for 2 years  straight. 

Those #s say he has lost too much

Quote from: DaveBrown74 on March 28, 2024, 03:27:47 PMIf we draft Penix, Schoen and Daboll need to retract the Tough/Smart/Dependable mantra. I'm not saying we shouldn't draft him, as I know he has some talent, but you can't walk around preaching "dependable" if your first or second pick in the draft is a guy who has had two ACLs before age 23. I'm sorry but that would be absurd. That tagline's credibility is already on very shaky ground after giving Jones a big contract with his injury history, even prior to 2023.

Do you think that Darren Waller fits the "smart/tough/dependable category?   

From what I have witnessed from Schoen so far, that slogan seems more like an ideal than a hard and fast rule.

Quote from: uconnjack8 on March 28, 2024, 03:32:48 PMNot a fan of those injuries. But I think he has been healthy for 2 years  straight. 

Those #s say he has lost too much

Yes.  100% about the injury concern.

Also in football it's not like you saw him run effectively so that speed matters little.

Quote from: Philosophers on March 28, 2024, 03:48:34 PMYes.  100% about the injury concern.

Also in football it's not like you saw him run effectively so that speed matters little.

He doesn't take off down field much.  But he does use his legs effectively in the pocket to go with a quick release.  I think he was sacked 34 times in like 1700 pass attempts.

Quote from: MightyGiants on March 28, 2024, 03:35:43 PMDo you think that Darren Waller fits the "smart/tough/dependable category?   

From what I have witnessed from Schoen so far, that slogan seems more like an ideal than a hard and fast rule.

Clearly not. I have been calling the meaningfulness of this mantra into question for some time now.

"Impressive athletic numbers" don't count for much.  Ask (for example) Johnny Unitas.

NFL QB is about smarts, poise, class and leadership. 

Maybe he should try out for the Olympics instead.   

Bob

https://x.com/albertbreer/status/1773444078786490525?s=46&t=1vcQIN8GqF5J2oLdxEVEJQ

I do like his accuracy. Dont like his throwing style but given his good accuracy, I would not mess with it.

I remember several drafts where there were 4+ QB prospects that all had the look and potential to be be a Franchise QB, but I don't remember agreeing with almost the entire class. This class has at least six QBs and possibly seven who could emerge as outstanding QBs. Of course history shows that's very unlikely. I do believe the destination is one of the determining factors.

There will likely be six QBs taken in the first round and it sounds unprecedented. Penix is going to be one of them. Just where, remains to be seen.

With QBs what's the minimum hand size teams usually use as a line?

Quote from: uconnjack8 on March 29, 2024, 12:22:08 PMWith QBs what's the minimum hand size teams usually use as a line?

I think they prefer ten but nine is acceptable.

Quote from: Ed Vette on March 29, 2024, 12:15:14 PMI remember several drafts where there were 4+ QB prospects that all had the look and potential to be be a Franchise QB, but I don't remember agreeing with almost the entire class. This class has at least six QBs and possibly seven who could emerge as outstanding QBs. Of course history shows that's very unlikely. I do believe the destination is one of the determining factors.

There will likely be six QBs taken in the first round and it sounds unprecedented. Penix is going to be one of them. Just where, remains to be seen.

History suggests that even if 6 are taken, it's likely only 2 or 3 will be considered successful.