NFT--Cleveland Guardians

[ELCHALJE]

No longer the Indians

https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/23/us/cleveland-major-league-baseball-name/index.html

[Slugsy-Narrows]

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[Bill Brown]

Farewell Louis Sockalexis.

Bill

[ozzie]

  - not a fan of the name

[madbadger]

Whoever picked that name must have a room temperature iq. I get that they had to change it but good lord they couldn

[Bob In PA]

Really, guys, could you think of a worse name?  The Guardians sounds like some sci-fi movie... or a trade name for a lousy baby-sitting service.  LOL  Bob

[DaveBrown74]

I suspect something that they thought phonetically resembled Indians.

[Sem]

Really, guys, could you think of a worse name?

Yes they already did, that's why they're changing it.

[ozzie]

Whoever picked that name must have a room temperature iq. I get that they had to change it but good lord they couldn

[LennG]

Maybe I am really being naive here, but what was really wrong with "Indians' as a nickname? How is the word Indian derogatory?

I can understand Redskin, Redmen, et al, but names like Indians and Braves, to me, at least, represent power and are, in no way derogatory.

[Ed Vette]

Maybe I am really being naive here, but what was really wrong with "Indians' as a nickname? How is the word Indian derogatory?

I can understand Redskin, Redmen, et al, but names like Indians and Braves, to me, at least, represent power and are, in no way derogatory.

I don

[DaveBrown74]

Maybe I am really being naive here, but what was really wrong with "Indians' as a nickname? How is the word Indian derogatory?

I can understand Redskin, Redmen, et al, but names like Indians and Braves, to me, at least, represent power and are, in no way derogatory.

I guess for the same reasons that the accepted term for this ethnic group switched from "Indians" to "Native Americans." Clearly the term "Indians" (in reference to Native Americans) is now considered at best passe, if not offensive. Of course that wasn't the case when this name for the baseball team was first decided on in the early 20th century, but times obviously change.

[MightyGiants]

Maybe I am really being naive here, but what was really wrong with "Indians' as a nickname? How is the word Indian derogatory?

I can understand Redskin, Redmen, et al, but names like Indians and Braves, to me, at least, represent power and are, in no way derogatory.

Len,

I suspect it has less to do with the term "Indians".   Rather it has more to do with the Chief Wahoo Logo




Of course, the term "Indians" is being phased out of our language much like the term "Oriental" has been phased out.   Neither term was accurate so they have been replaced with the more appropriate Native American and Asian.

[LennG]

Len,

I suspect it has less to do with the term "Indians".   Rather it has more to do with the Chief Wahoo Logo




Of course, the term "Indians" is being phased out of our language much like the term "Oriental" has been phased out.   Neither term was accurate so they have been replaced with the more appropriate Native American and Asian.

100% agree that the logo is offensive.

I know I'm old, but as Ed and I said, to me, certain terms about let's just say Indians, are an honorable word. But again, I still refer to myself as a Jew, who knows what the  correct wording for that is now.     

[Sem]

Maybe I am really being naive here, but what was really wrong with "Indians' as a nickname? How is the word Indian derogatory?

I can understand Redskin, Redmen, et al, but names like Indians and Braves, to me, at least, represent power and are, in no way derogatory.

Len, I consider you a friend and a good man whom I respect immensely. So please don't get mad or take this the wrong way as I say this with equal parts tongue-in-cheek but also with a salient point. If I'm the owner of the Cleveland franchise feeling that a name change might be in order based on the barometer of current society, and I'm soliciting opinions and advice, one of the last people I'd likely ask is a 70 year old Jewish man from Long Island.