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How do you feel about the conspiracy theories that Mara is the puppet Mara?

Started by MightyGiants, November 17, 2023, 10:46:20 AM

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Do you believe that the GM, along with the HC, have effectively full autonomy?

Giant Jim

Quote from: Woody on November 19, 2023, 12:34:11 PMI agree.  Mara's have been guilty of preventing the Giants from adapting and growing with the league for years...always seem to be five years behind with coaching hires and Gms ....always making conservative decisions with all football operations...they like to be perceived by all as NFL legends in their own mind....but in reality survive as owners because they are in the largest market for tv , fans etc. Look at this years schedule....one good year making playoffs and the NFL marketing / schedulers couldn't wait to get them back in prime time games....too many in my opinion. 
And Mara obsession with Ronnie Barnes is an example of their stubbornness to adapt to todays game.


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Great way of looking at it. George Young brought them up to date his first 9 or 10 years, but by the very early 90's he fell behind. Ernie Accorsi started to bring them back up to date, Jerry Reese and beyond didn't just watch the the league move on, they fell further back by regressing to old habits.

Giant Jim

Quote from: kartanoman on November 19, 2023, 01:01:36 PMThat was the biggest step of all (i.e. letting Young build the front office and run the show as it needed to be run).

Getting both sides to agree to Young was Rozelle's significant accomplishment as arbitrator between Timothy J. Mara (i.e. the late Jack Mara's son) and Wellington Mara. The former wanted George Allen while the latter wanted Jan Van Duser from the NFL League Offices. Ultimately, Young became their man and the saga drew to a close. But the damage had been done and the two owners never spoke to each other. They used Young as a go-between. To Young's credit, he made the arrangement work without letting it impact the football operation and, over the course of the next 11 seasons, the Giants won their first two Super Bowls under Bill Parcells. By then, Timothy, along with his mom and sister, were ready to sell their half of ownership and did so to Preston Robert Tisch in 1991. He moved to Florida and invested his time in charitable events before Hodgkins Disease claimed his life in 1995.

It is unclear if Wellington and Timothy attempted to rekindle their relationship after the latter sold his part. Some sources suggest they got together, talked about the old days of football, both the good and the bad. Following Timothy's passing, Wellington went to pay his respects but did not answer any questions regarding their past and simply asked that they respect this private family matter. In the end, Mara loyalty never swayed; once a Giant, always a Giant.

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It didn't matter who each one wanted. Tim didn't want just a different GM or coach, he didn't want to continue with the new GM just being a Yes man to Wellington like Robustelli was. Dan Reeves was flown in for a secret interview with Wellington and basically promised him the HC job. Tim called Dallas and told him the job wasn't his. Tom Landry called Well and told him Reeves would make a great coach, but to stop jerking him around until they got their xxxx together. There were many others. Well wanted Robustelli to stay another year, Terry Bledsoe, and many others. Tim said they would just be business as usual. Tim was suggesting names he knew his uncle would reject. It wasn't important for his man to be chosen, it was to get the team to have a new way of doing business. George Young was hired AFTER Tim and Well and Rozelle agreed for Well to step back. Part of the agreement was that Wellington's "do nothing friends" like Jim Lee Howell and Ray Walsh could keep their jobs. Young had to work with them and others. The announcement as to how they agreed to Young was just PR so both owners could save face.

Years later, with Tim gone, Wellington pushed Reeves on Young. This was the beginning of the Well side dragging them back down.