Grade Joe Schoen's offseason

[EliWasrobbed]

- Let Barkley walk for nothing

- Let Xavier walk for nothing

- Signed a below average RB for 3 years 15 MILLION!!!!!!!!

- Overpaid for an average Oline

Meanwhile we are stuck with his abominable Waller contract, no safety, the worst starting QB contract in the league,

Schoen has not improved this team 1% since taking over after Gettleman's mess. He has missed over and over and over again (Parris Cambell, Mark Glowinski, , and now we are once again on our way to full rebuild. Why did we not start this during the season? I sense 4-13 year with him throwing the Genius Brian Daboll under the bus to save his ass.


HE GETS AN F+ FOR ME. Total disaster.

[brownelvis54]

Way way way too early of a thread like this

[EliWasrobbed]

Way way way too early of a thread like this

the sheer fact he let Saquon and Xavier walk for nothing makes it absolutely needed. This is a man sabotaging this franchise.

[zephirus]

Why don't you let the offseason actually conclude before throwing a temper tantrum?

[EliWasrobbed]

Why don't you let the offseason actually conclude before throwing a temper tantrum?

Why are you supporting an awful GM who has already let 2 franchise players walk for nothing?

[Jclayton92]

Lol the offseason started today.

[Stringer Bell]

Don't feed the trolls

[ozzie]

$5.5 million/season for Singletary vs. $12.6 million/season for Barkley.
So far I have no complaint.

[T200]

Why not wait until the off-season is done before you offer up a grade?

But... you were a never a fan of his so it's never too soon to rant, #amiright? 

[Jclayton92]

$5.5 million/season for Singletary vs. $12.6 million/season for Barkley.
So far I have no complaint.

exactly, Barkley had 72 more yards than Singletary. I think the Giants are winners in that scenario and winners not paying a safety 70 million that barely caused game changing plays

[EliWasrobbed]

exactly, Barkley had 72 more yards than Singletary. I think the Giants are winners in that scenario and winners not paying a safety 70 million that barely caused game changing plays

So what do you expect devins numbers to be with Jones as our QB and no weapons? Saquon made the pro bowl last year and Devin has never even gotten 1,000 yards

Hope you aren't one of those also complaining Jones has no help next year

[zephirus]

Why are you supporting an awful GM who has already let 2 franchise players walk for nothing?

Nobody walks for nothing.  They go into the algorithm that's used to define compensatory picks next year.  Both players expressed displeasure with the Giants and it's pretty evident they didn't want to come back.  We want players, not prisoners.  As much as it hurts to lose them, I applaud a GM who assigns value to players and doesn't deviate from the strategy and over-pay, especially at positions like running-back and safety where there is typically deep value in the draft. 

So far he's making some relatively low cost signings which I think is great.  This team is not one player or two or even three from competing for a championship.  I'd rather construct through the draft, over time, than keep making expensive swings for the fence.  I don't anticipate the Giants being a contender next year, and that's okay.  The Giants made a mistake last off-season by signing Jones to the extension they did and giving Barkley franchise money.  It's gonna take a season to undo that.  It might even take 2 if they're not thrilled with the quarterbacks available at #6 and decide to revisit in 2025.  Show some patience. 

[EliWasrobbed]

Nobody walks for nothing.  They go into the algorithm that's used to define compensatory picks next year.  Both players expressed displeasure with the Giants and it's pretty evident they didn't want to come back.  We want players, not prisoners.  As much as it hurts to lose them, I applaud a GM who assigns value to players and doesn't deviate from the strategy and over-pay, especially at positions like running-back and safety where there is typically deep value in the draft. 

So far he's making some relatively low cost signings which I think is great.  This team is not one player or two or even three from competing for a championship.  I'd rather construct through the draft, over time, than keep making expensive swings for the fence.  I don't anticipate the Giants being a contender next year, and that's okay.  The Giants made a mistake last off-season by signing Jones to the extension they did and giving Barkley franchise money.  It's gonna take a season to undo that.  It might even take 2 if they're not thrilled with the quarterbacks available at #6 and decide to revisit in 2025.  Show some patience. 

in what universe did saquon not want to come back?

I've had patience for years. Schoen has shown he is absolutely clueless on every single thing he's done other than Kayvon. Joke of a GM.

[Jclayton92]

So what do you expect devins numbers to be with Jones as our QB and no weapons? Saquon made the pro bowl last year and Devin has never even gotten 1,000 yards

Hope you aren't one of those also complaining Jones has no help next year

huh? I'm the one person that was completely against signing Jones from the beginning so I have no clue what you're talking about other than being ridiculously emotional in every thread over an oft injured RB and a Qb that won't be here next year.

Singletary has always been in a stable and not a feature back hence why he was paid like a stable back.

The offseason just started you have no clue if Jones will be the Qb, take a deep breath and slow down on spamming every single thread with the sake thing. We get it you don't like schoen and Jones but love saquan.

[zephirus]

in what universe did saquon not want to come back?

I've had patience for years. Schoen has shown he is absolutely clueless on every single thing he's done other than Kayvon. Joke of a GM.

"They did it last year, so I'm numb to it," the running back said when asked about the franchise tag. "I don't have any feelings toward that at all.  If you're gonna do it, just don't wait until March 5," Barkley said. "Just get it over with. If not, let me go. Simple."

That's not a ringing endorsement from Barkley that he wanted to be back.  The Giants offered him a multi-year deal last off-season that he turned down.  It's clear that Schoen and Barkley's representation were not close on a contract that represented the value Schoen believed Barkley brought with what Barkley's representation thought he deserved.  That's just a business decision and while losing a great player stings, it's a part of football.