That was really interesting and something we dont typically know.
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Show posts MenuQuote from: H-Town G-Fan on May 08, 2024, 04:49:45 PMSome around here have argued he was top-10 in 2022, largely based on his QBR that season (he was 6th and largely so due to running contribution). But to me, 2022 would not be good enough in 2024 because it would be a "top-10" season by efficiency. Again, my point was that it hinges somewhat on the "top-10" season we're talking about. If 2024 is like 2022, that "top-10" performance doesn't do the trick.
Quote from: H-Town G-Fan on May 08, 2024, 10:41:42 AMI feel exactly the opposite because if they're picking higher via a bad record, a top QB is more likely to be within reach. Though, I'm viewing this top-10 season as being the result of efficiency (akin to 2022) rather than volume--I think the latter would make the decision to replace him harder, though not insurmountable depending on circumstances (that likely can't be anticipated at this time).
Quote from: MightyGiants on May 08, 2024, 10:19:21 AM4 out of 6 would be an impressive batting average even for the best GMs
Quote from: MightyGiants on May 07, 2024, 12:40:54 PMDoes anyone believe if Jones plays like a top 10 QB but the team has a losing season, the Giants will not pursue QB in next year's draft (assuming there is a good one and they are in a realistic position to acquire him).
Quote from: Jclayton92 on May 03, 2024, 06:37:46 PMWinner Pinnock, Bobby Ok, and Flott- Pinnock because he gets to stay at FS and continue to grow with Nubin at Strong. Flott because drafting Phillips gets him another Shot at boundaOK, Bobby Ok will thrive with all the talent around him on the front 7, and only get better.
Losers- Belton, Bellinger, and Gray- Drafting a safety let's Belton know that he will only get snaps if he beats Pinnock. Since Bellinger has been drafted we traded for a TE, and drafted another. I think he's the first person at risk of losing his job because Theo is a better talent now than Bellinger is now. Gray got stuck in the doghouse and never got out, maybe taking KR duties away finally will let him focus.
Quote from: Jclayton92 on May 02, 2024, 09:16:58 PMHe only threw the ball 2 times beyond 20 yards the first 14 weeks of his best ever season in 2022.
Jones started 6 games in 2023, Devito started 6 and Taylor started 5 games.
Jones 6 Games started 33 10+ yards, 9 20+ yards, 1 40+ yard
Devito 6 games started 37 10+ yards, 16 20+ yards, 2 40+ yard
Taylor 5 games started 45 10+ yards, 19 20+ yards 4 40+ yard
For reference
Dak had 179 10+ and 62 20+ yards
Purdy had 167 10+ 72 20+ yards
Mayfield had 145 10+ and 60 20+ yard
So even if you gave Jones an extra game he'd still only average 27 which is nothing by comparison.
Jones yard per attempt was 5.7 while Devitos was 6.2, and Taylor's 7.5
For reference
Nick Muellen started 5 games and had a yard per attempt of 8.8 he also had 16 more passes than Jones of 20+ yards in 1 less game.
Easton Stick started 5 games and had a yard per attempt of 6.0 and he had 3 more passes than Jones of 20+ yards in 1 less game.
Clearly shows he has a deep ball problem and you can see in the same time frame both Taylor and Devito threw it deep more and bad back ups in the NFL threw it significantly deeper in 1 less game than Jones.