The big boys are getting lots of attention from Big Blue fans. I wrote up the scouting analysis on Tunsil, Stanley, Decker, Conklin & Spriggs that you can see below. Tunsil is likely heading to Tennessee, but I am not drinking the "Kool Aid" when it comes to Stanley. They talk about his meltdown vs. Lawson in the Clemson game, but he had so many flags thrown at him in the Georgia Tech clash, you thought he was Sheldon from the Big Bang Theory (Fun With Flags). Decker, to me, was a better fit on the right side. I think they Buckeyes unimaginative offense was the result of their poor play last year, but he seems to work better when not on an island. Ah, Conklin, that kid eats glass, folks. Certainly not pretty, but he gets the job done. The thing is, he's a mauler & not one who will finesse you to death. I'm puzzled by folks saying Spriggs needs to improve his strength. Just one OL guy did better than him in the bench at Indy. Well, I will let you folks decide what your "tackle of choice" should be;
TUNSIL;
http://nfldraftreport.sportsblog.com/posts/13490381/the-nfl-draft-report-s--everything-but-the-kitchen-sink-on-ole-miss--laremy-tunsil---looking-to-become-the-fourth-offensive-tackle-selected-first-overall-since-the-league-merger.html (http://nfldraftreport.sportsblog.com/posts/13490381/the-nfl-draft-report-s--everything-but-the-kitchen-sink-on-ole-miss--laremy-tunsil---looking-to-become-the-fourth-offensive-tackle-selected-first-overall-since-the-league-merger.html)
STANLEY;
http://nfldraftreport.sportsblog.com/posts/15274327/the-nfl-draft-report-s--cream-of-the-crop--series---notre-dame-s-ronnie-stanley-hopes-to-follow-former-irish-star-zach-martin-s-path-to-nfl-success.html (http://nfldraftreport.sportsblog.com/posts/15274327/the-nfl-draft-report-s--cream-of-the-crop--series---notre-dame-s-ronnie-stanley-hopes-to-follow-former-irish-star-zach-martin-s-path-to-nfl-success.html)
DECKER
http://nfldraftreport.sportsblog.com/posts/15210139/the-nfl-draft-report---s----cream-of-the-crop----series---everything-you-wanted-to-know-about-ohio-state-offensive-tackle-taylor-decker---the-military-family-man-awaits-his-nfl-marching-orders-on-draft-day.html (http://nfldraftreport.sportsblog.com/posts/15210139/the-nfl-draft-report---s----cream-of-the-crop----series---everything-you-wanted-to-know-about-ohio-state-offensive-tackle-taylor-decker---the-military-family-man-awaits-his-nfl-marching-orders-on-draft-day.html)
CONKLIN;
http://nfldraftreport.sportsblog.com/posts/15326148/the-nfl-draft-report-s--cream-of-the-crop--series--from-walk-on-to-possible-first-round-pick---the-long-journey-taken-by-michigan-state-offensive-tackle-jack-conklin.html (http://nfldraftreport.sportsblog.com/posts/15326148/the-nfl-draft-report-s--cream-of-the-crop--series--from-walk-on-to-possible-first-round-pick---the-long-journey-taken-by-michigan-state-offensive-tackle-jack-conklin.html)
SPRIGGS;
http://nfldraftreport.sportsblog.com/posts/15390798/the-nfl-draft-report-s--catch-a-rising-star--series---indiana-s-jason-spriggs-continues-to-skyrocket-up-nfl-draft-boards.html (http://nfldraftreport.sportsblog.com/posts/15390798/the-nfl-draft-report-s--catch-a-rising-star--series---indiana-s-jason-spriggs-continues-to-skyrocket-up-nfl-draft-boards.html)
Welcome I hope you add to the great discussion here.
I just hope you actually contribute to the discussion rather than plug a website.
Awful lot of posts with links.
Scouting...welcome aboard! =D> =D> =D>
I was wondering if you had anything on Jerald Hawkins out of LSU. I'm thinking he'll be there in round 3 & he could probably compete for the starting RT position. Again welcome & looking forward to your contribution, comments, suggestions and analysis in the future.
Cid
NOTE FROM DAVE-TE...Check out the Keanu Neal report on this article. This could be a major find for Big Blue, if he slips past Carolina and into Round Two
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Tomeee-Dave Te here. I PROMISE to contribute. Just look at the size of the reports & you will see it is impossible to post all that info into a forum blip- besides, I'm a computer dummy & the ratings charts all get out of whack. Bear with me this month & I promise to be a good guy, cool?
Welcome Dave I'm sure you'll delivery quality, at the same time I like that Tommee's got our back he's troll patrol so keep it real.
SID IN DUPONT-Will send you Hawkins a week from Monday. My staff & I are wrapping up 2016 spring drills in the SEC before they close this coming week, but NO problem. Really like the kid & while most say Round 3, that is a great place to take him. Will also have reports on 2 other lesser knowns my scouts like - Benenoch at UCLA & the Richter kid at Richmond. The Spiders have a nice sleeper for Day 3
Great write ups, I like how you really get into the history of the man and the player.
Do you have a read on potential 2nd and 3rd round OT prospects the Giants could draft?
Quote from: MightyGiants on April 09, 2016, 08:39:00 AM
Great write ups, I like how you really get into the history of the man and the player.
Do you have a read on potential 2nd and 3rd round OT prospects the Giants could draft?
I would be particularly interested in your assessment of Joe Haeg, North Dakota State.
In an ideal world I could see the Giants drafting a proper FS in rounds 2 or 3. There seems to be talent lining up in that direction and I often see Fuller being mocked to the Giants
Fuller would be a nice fit, but a few teams passed on his medicals, as he's dealt with leg issues the last two years. If Carolina passes on Keanue Neal, imagine him crashing into receivers in the Big Blue secondary!
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This article features our final ratings on the 2016 Draft
While I see a need for the team to draft a true free safety, I don't see a need for the team to draft a strong safety as nearly every safety currently on the Giants roster are more natural strong safeties than free safeties. Plus as the game evolves I see a less and less of a need for true strong safety types.
Quote from: MightyGiants on April 09, 2016, 08:39:00 AM
Great write ups, I like how you really get into the history of the man and the player.
Do you have a read on potential 2nd and 3rd round OT prospects the Giants could draft?
Would indeed like to know your thoughts on Ifedi, Hawkins, Clark and Coleman. All look like solid 2nd Rounders.
mighty Giants-if you see the recent trend, quite a few teams are using interchangeable safety types. While not ideal FS guys, several are listed on the strong safety report as being capable of sliding over there. My preference in Round Two is obviously Keanu Neal, if there, as he's a linebacker trapped in a safety's body. One guy not getting much love is the Iowa kid, Lomax, as I think he can be a really nice Day 3/4 guy due to his hands, range and ability to contribute on special teams. One other free safety getting lots of goo-goo eyes out of Jersey is Green at Clemson - I say he's long gone before Kearse hears his name called.
Mighty Giants asked me about a few early round offensive tackles my staff likes. I sent the report on Shon Coleman earlier, but this is a BRIEF look at our report on LSU's Jerald Hawkins. The kid is versatile - 2 years on the strong side and then over to left tackle last season. His body is still growing, but I like his footwork. He's also a decent trap blocker & teams sometimes like getting their rookie OL guys feet wet at guard. I see him more of a third round guy, but there is a lot a position coach will like in him, as he's fairly quick to pick up any schemes. By the way-his coaches seemed to rely upon him a lot. Over the left side of the line, 21 of 38 TDs and 1997 of 3082 rushing yards came from that area.
JERALD HAWKINS SCOUTING REPORT
Athletic Ability
Folks, one of the nice guys, Cid from DuPont asked about Jerald Hawkins-LSU. I will post his full report when I return from SEC spring camp scrimmages after this week, but here is an excerpt from the Hawkins scouting report to Tide over until then, thanks!
HAWKINS SCOUTING REPORT
Body Structure
Hey Mighty Giants, I had posted this earlier, but I think in the switch-off by the moderators it might have gotten lost in translation. You asked about a few OTs that might be round 2/3 guys for Big Blue. I posted the scouting report on LSU's Jerald Hawkins & think he is the "purrfect" fit in Round 3, as he has 2 years on the right side as a starter before shifting to the weak-side last year. Check out his report somewhere on here.
Here is another guy most are saying possible in Round 2, Auburn's Shon Coleman. He battled cancer for 2 years (luekemia) before playing for the Tigers and last year, was a bit of a struggle early before really stepping it up in the second half. The problem for him is that until later this week, he's yet to work out as he recovers from right knee surgery. Personally, I am a bit hesitant drafting him, not because of the cancer, but at age 25, the porch light is still a work in progress. Here is his scouting report. I'm doing the SEC spring scrimmage trips this week (for 2017 prospects), so I will be reporting on & off from the road;
SHON COLEMAN SCOUTING REPORT
Athletic Ability
Dave thanks for the write ups on the OTs. It looks like there might be a good prospect or two but with so few it is a gamble to wait if they are looking at the draft to fill all needs.
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Love Jack, but I feel Lee is going to be the better pro. No disrespect to Jack, but I like him tons better as a Will guy inside or as a strong safety than on the flank. Big hitter, but he's a smart, savvy type I want directing traffic, not roaming the field on the edge
Quote from: nflscouting on April 12, 2016, 04:37:17 PM
Love Jack, but I feel Lee is going to be the better pro. No disrespect to Jack, but I like him tons better as a Will guy inside or as a strong safety than on the flank. Big hitter, but he's a smart, savvy type I want directing traffic, not roaming the field on the edge
Dave - several of your colleagues Brugler and Nawrocki have some concerns about Lee's body build and overall strength. Nolan specifically said that he looks "maxed out" ... "looks small and plays small". The Scout that Nawrocki employs states he is a "safety" and his value lies in the 2nd Round. Brugler stated that he gets easily engulfed by blocking linemen in running plays. What is your reply to those reports?
The Giants were one of the worst teams last year defending the run. So why would they bring in a guy who may be an excellent pass protector but gets washed out of running plays far too often? Although many here have disagreed with me - the Giants have typically wanted their LBs to be run stoppers first and foremost. So if they took Lee, that would represent a change in philosophy. Wouldn't he be a better fit for a team who want their LBs to be speedy cover types first?
Quote from: todge on April 12, 2016, 05:54:06 PM
Dave - several of your colleagues Brugler and Nawrocki have some concerns about Lee's body build and overall strength. Nolan specifically said that he looks "maxed out" ... "looks small and plays small". The Scout that Nawrocki employs states he is a "safety" and his value lies in the 2nd Round. Brugler stated that he gets easily engulfed by blocking linemen in running plays. What is your reply to those reports?
The Giants were one of the worst teams last year defending the run. So why would they bring in a guy who may be an excellent pass protector but gets washed out of running plays far too often? Although many here have disagreed with me - the Giants have typically wanted their LBs to be run stoppers first and foremost. So if they took Lee, that would represent a change in philosophy. Wouldn't he be a better fit for a team who want their LBs to be speedy cover types first?
Perhaps the signing of Snacks indicates that they are changing their philosophy.
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Quote from: COGiantFan on April 13, 2016, 11:48:06 AM
Perhaps the signing of Snacks indicates that they are changing their philosophy.
I would love a change in philosophy and get some speedy backs. TEs have been having career games against us. Personally I'd take the fast light guy who plays 3 downs over a 2 down thumper right now
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Hey folks, Dave-Te here. I am getting smashed by bad weather this week down in the SEC area. With a ton of power outages, hail storms & floods, I will be off-line until Monday-thanks
Quote from: nflscouting on April 14, 2016, 10:24:20 PM
Hey folks, Dave-Te here. I am getting smashed by bad weather this week down in the SEC area. With a ton of power outages, hail storms & floods, I will be off-line until Monday-thanks
Stay safe Dave
HEY GUYS-JUST GOT SOME GOOD WIFI IN MISSISSIPPI (at Mississippi State) a few things on Lee. COGIANTS-He worked out last week at 242,so the draft experts need to check him out again. Do NOT worry about his weight - it starts with Derrick Brooks, who gave way to Lavante David. Look at Ryan Shaziere, Kwon Alexander & Deone Buccanan last year. Lee is better than all & I say he equals Brooks by the time he's done. Search the Mike Mayock/Charles Jackson tapes when they broadcast Lee's game. They were having a bromance-simply put, he's a playmaker
MIGHTGIANTS-no-Lee is better, but Jack is better as a MLB target. I prefer Lee as a Will in a 4-3, or like Shazier in a 3-4, but feel Jack's best spot is in the middle of a 4-3. He's highly instinctive. I'm an old timer, but that kid in the middle has crazy Mike Curtis ability. Remember, we are grading certain guys at alternate spots, but if you notice, they do not really carry the same #s at each position.
NOTE-getting back to the complex on Monday. Big, big defensive tackle report with a ton of scouting reports later that day. All OL guys (C, T, G) are getting their due this week, also. My old timers finally got through the tapes. I like using a few former scouts to get their analysis & film view notes, as we all grade differently. I'm also going to do a little "school work" to explain my stats breakdown on OL guys.
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Hey folks, Dave-Te here. I had a computer issue that kept me from posting, but I hope you will enjoy these reports. It is our official reports on all of the Giants draft choices. Pay close attention to the comparison charts included for Apple & Shepard. Hopefully, the Apple chart will quiet some of those angry over the selection. As a PS, 24 teams had Elie #2 at CB behind Ramsey on their draft boards? Just look at the targets/catches & run support numbers of the others, especially the guys with the IIIs after their names. As for Sterling, I about jumped out of my pants at that selection. As a scout, you try not to have favorites, but sorry folks, this kid is one of mine.
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Hey folks, I am also releasing the reports on the Round One guys. You can get to the directory with this link;
http://nfldraftreport.sportsblog.com/posts/16893386/the-nfl-draft-report-s---an-extensive-study-of-the-2016-draft-first-round-class.html (http://nfldraftreport.sportsblog.com/posts/16893386/the-nfl-draft-report-s---an-extensive-study-of-the-2016-draft-first-round-class.html)
It will take you to the links for each player - note - these are much more extensive than the previous analysis reports, as there were certain items the league requested that I did not give "too much info" on until after the draft
Quote from: nflscouting on May 03, 2016, 10:52:39 AM
Hey folks, I am also releasing the reports on the Round One guys. You can get to the directory with this link;
http://nfldraftreport.sportsblog.com/posts/16893386/the-nfl-draft-report-s---an-extensive-study-of-the-2016-draft-first-round-class.html (http://nfldraftreport.sportsblog.com/posts/16893386/the-nfl-draft-report-s---an-extensive-study-of-the-2016-draft-first-round-class.html)
It will take you to the links for each player - note - these are much more extensive than the previous analysis reports, as there were certain items the league requested that I did not give "too much info" on until after the draft
Dave,
If I could make a suggestion you might want to make those links to the reports hyperlinks so people can just click on them rather than having to cut and past them in their browser's address bar.
Thanks for the coverage Dave. I admit I didn't do any homework for the draft, so your write-ups are great for catching up.
One thing that sticks with me regarding Apple vs Hargreaves is the difference in run support. Amukamara had his faults (although the biggest sin was not being able to stay on the field) but he was good in run support, and if Hargreaves has a Deion Sander's like allergy to contact, that would immediately disqualify him from consideration.
The same held true for Jackson III - both he & Hargreaves seemed to be "allergic" when it came to run support. That is one thing that Giants fans will see in Apple - he has no fear coming up to give chase in run force. I know the team is looking for a slot corner, but at the least, he can fill that role to start. Often at OSU, it was him & Bell playing safety when they went 5 DBs
Quote from: nflscouting on May 04, 2016, 07:16:34 AM
The same held true for Jackson III - both he & Hargreaves seemed to be "allergic" when it came to run support. That is one thing that Giants fans will see in Apple - he has no fear coming up to give chase in run force. I know the team is looking for a slot corner, but at the least, he can fill that role to start. Often at OSU, it was him & Bell playing safety when they went 5 DBs
What do you think of the notion of having Apple being the 3rd corner but moving him outside and sliding DRC into the slot on the nickel package?
While the idea of moving the aging vet inside, if you look at Ohio State film, when the Buckeyes went to 5/6-DB sets, it was first Apple & Doran Grant playing the safety slots, with Apple covering the deep zone in 2014. Last year, Vonn Bell replaced Grant in those situations. On 25 passes targeted to Apple playing the slot, just three were completed for an 8.66-yard average.
One thing I like about Apple is that "he takes mental notes." Watch him on the field. Sometimes, it looks like he is talking to himself. He has this thing for being precise & don't take him to Atlantic City, as he won't gamble. He is more of a boundary type & I love his ability to come in the box in run force. Remember though, this is a sophomore, but unlike Prince A, you won't see him make the same mistakes twice
Dave and Rick
Another alternative is to play Jenkins in the slot and let Eli play his more natural RCB position, when they go to the 3 CB package