Fucking dumb ass.
If all you want to do is run because you dont trust DeVito, why not try a halfback option pass to convert a key 3rd down. Got to think the Jets would be completely fooled.
Just make Barkley the QB then. At least you can mix up the play calling with him.
That's three hours I can't get back.
Ugly football in NY these days.
Get in line, Ed. I'm first.
On the bright side, at least we don't have to worry about some team poaching him in the offseason.
Inexplicable...incompetent...just plain stupid
T
Quote from: Ed Vette on October 29, 2023, 04:22:46 PMFucking dumb ass.
That fken guy has to be fired this week
That was a disgrace of a game
Sure fire the OC because he couldn't do anything because the third string QB some of you wanted to start didn't even know how to call a play out without reading his wristband. He couldn't even throw the ball past the LOS. But that's the guy you folks said was better than Tyrod Taylor. This place sounds like BBI today. I think I'm gonna stay away.
Devito played liked he didn't know the rules of the game. Sliding a yard short of the 1st ends the play where you begin your slide! Running out of of bounds on 3rd and 15 for a 3 yard game gains you nothing! He was absolute dogcrap garbage. Mike Glennon, Jake Fromm and Tommy Maddox are redeemed as the worst back up QBS force into action in team history.
Quote from: Dgoodmantrublu on October 29, 2023, 06:10:48 PMSure fire the OC because he couldn't do anything because the third string QB some of you wanted to start didn't even know how to call a play out without reading his wristband. He couldn't even throw the ball past the LOS. But that's the guy you folks said was better than Tyrod Taylor. This place sounds like BBI today. I think I'm gonna stay away.
It's not just this game. Name one good game Kafka called this year.
He called a very good game last week. It wasn't his fault Barkley fumbled or that Gano missed kicks.
Quote from: TDToomer on October 29, 2023, 06:21:44 PMDevito played liked he didn't know the rules of the game. Sliding a yard short of the 1st ends the play where you begin your slide! Running out of of bounds on 3rd and 15 for a 3 yard game gains you nothing! He was absolute dogcrap garbage. Mike Glennon, Jake Fromm and Tommy Maddox are redeemed as the worst back up QBS force into action in team history.
Yeah, DeVito is not the future. That much was immediately obvious.
Cuss out Kafka all you wish but today's debacle was all on Daboll once Taylor was lost. From that early moment in the game, to whatever extent it was Kafka's Game Plan to begin with, it was no longer. Do we really think that the decision to abandoned the pass after 5 minutes into the 2Q and for essentially all of the remainder of the game was Kafka's. Please, don't make me laugh.
After one 30 plus yard run by Barkley and subsequent TD to make it 10-7 it was run, run, run, one 3 and out after another until Daboll finally screwed the pooch with a foolish TO for a FG try instead of going for it on 4th and 1 which even if they didn't convert would have taken long enough to unpile with the clock running to leave no time for those two long passes from what as it turned out was the Jets 25.
Dabollesque not Kafkaesque.
Cheers!
Quote from: Painter on October 29, 2023, 08:25:06 PMCuss out Kafka all you wish but today's debacle was all on Daboll once Taylor was lost. From that early moment in the game, to whatever extent it was Kafka's Game Plan to begin with, it was no longer. Do we really think that the decision to abandoned the pass after 5 minutes into the 2Q and for essentially all of the remainder of the game was Kafka's. Please, don't make me laugh.
After one 30 plus yard run by Barkley and subsequent TD to make it 10-7 it was run, run, run, one 3 and out after another until Daboll finally screwed the pooch with a foolish TO for a FG try instead of going for it on 4th and 1 which even if they didn't convert would have taken long enough to unpile with the clock running to leave no time for those two long passes from what as it turned out was the Jets 25.
Dabollesque not Kafkaesque.
Cheers!
I'm well aware of that. How about that stupid Draw Play when there was no passing threat? Aside from the play calling, he's the OC and his job description isn't just the play caller. His job is to prepare these players and that includes the backup QB. It was very apparent that there was no set of plays for this kid in the event the starter went down.
I also have to put this on Daboll too. Before the HC goes, the OC has to go. If he can't trust his OC to creatively call the game in adverse circumstances then what good is he, Larry? With all the runs that set up play action, not one shot on first down? Daboll should just fire him and take over the play calling himself.
I understand how you feel, Ed. My problem is with my own thinking in which I have never really thought of Kafka as more than just an extension of Daboll with only as much independence as he is given under the best of circumstances. I hope I'm wrong, but nothing which happened today convinces to think otherwise.
That said, I have no intention to quit on either of them; nowhere near it.
Cheers!
Quote from: Painter on October 29, 2023, 08:25:06 PMCuss out Kafka all you wish but today's debacle was all on Daboll once Taylor was lost. From that early moment in the game, to whatever extent it was Kafka's Game Plan to begin with, it was no longer. Do we really think that the decision to abandoned the pass after 5 minutes into the 2Q and for essentially all of the remainder of the game was Kafka's. Please, don't make me laugh.
After one 30 plus yard run by Barkley and subsequent TD to make it 10-7 it was run, run, run, one 3 and out after another until Daboll finally screwed the pooch with a foolish TO for a FG try instead of going for it on 4th and 1 which even if they didn't convert would have taken long enough to unpile with the clock running to leave no time for those two long passes from what as it turned out was the Jets 25.
Dabollesque not Kafkaesque.
Cheers!
Did Devito do anything at all to inspire confidence when he was given the chance to throw early? Behind that OL without his best receiver and looking mostly shell shocked while the defense was all but pitching a shutout I'd argue 3 and out + punt was a greater chance of winning the game than telling Devito to go wild and hope he doesn't take a sack/fumble or throw a back breaking INT.
Probably should have still handed it off on 4th and 1 and hoped for the best though.
Quote from: katkavage on October 29, 2023, 07:30:48 PMYeah, DeVito is not the future. That much was immediately obvious.
they didnt even give him a chance
Quote from: Gmo11 on October 30, 2023, 04:38:02 AMDid Devito do anything at all to inspire confidence when he was given the chance to throw early? Behind that OL without his best receiver and looking mostly shell shocked while the defense was all but pitching a shutout I'd argue 3 and out + punt was a greater chance of winning the game than telling Devito to go wild and hope he doesn't take a sack/fumble or throw a back breaking INT.
Probably should have still handed it off on 4th and 1 and hoped for the best though.
In retrospect, running the ball there would have eaten the clock with a first down. Even if they failed, it would have done the job. But you have to expect your kicker to make a chip shot even with a bad knee. He had no problem with kickoffs.
Quote from: Ed Vette on October 30, 2023, 10:36:20 AMHe had no problem with kickoffs.
Ed: That is another issue I wondered about. But I'll reiterate that Papa and Banks said an accurate kick would have been blocked anyway because a defender had jumped over the center and was close enough to do so. Bob
Everything runs through Dabs ear. He has the ability to change it and he did not.
Is Kafka another Bienemy? Someone next to Andy Reid who is not Andy Reid?
It was funny when the commentators said "it's a draw, but the draw works when you are not only running the ball, otherwise the draw is given away"... no xxxx?! =))
Quote from: Philosophers on October 30, 2023, 11:07:03 AMEverything runs through Dabs ear. He has the ability to change it and he did not.
Is Kafka another Bienemy? Someone next to Andy Reid who is not Andy Reid?
Is Daboll another Andy Reid? Come on man.
Even the announcers said " Let me guess? Another run"....this game was painful to watch.
Quote from: Ed Vette on October 29, 2023, 04:22:46 PMFucking dumb ass.
Ed: I should have thought of this sooner (before it was announced that Jones is cleared for contact)...
Kafka would have been the perfect choice to back-up DeVito. No need to check the list of free agents, either...
I'm assuming he already knows all the plays and (to the extent it would have irritated you) I would have been rooting for him all the way. LOL
Bob