Title: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: MightyGiants on November 26, 2023, 12:23:02 PM
Post by: MightyGiants on November 26, 2023, 12:23:02 PM
Please post game comments here
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: TDToomer on November 26, 2023, 12:52:53 PM
Post by: TDToomer on November 26, 2023, 12:52:53 PM
I am probably the only one here toggling back and forth between this game and the Womens World Cup Slalom on NBC. Go Shiffrin go!
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: GeauxJints on November 26, 2023, 01:07:25 PM
Post by: GeauxJints on November 26, 2023, 01:07:25 PM
Comeon Robinson, can't have it
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: Woody on November 26, 2023, 01:07:34 PM
Post by: Woody on November 26, 2023, 01:07:34 PM
Nice start
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Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: sooners56 on November 26, 2023, 01:08:08 PM
Post by: sooners56 on November 26, 2023, 01:08:08 PM
Why are they handing off to Breida and Robinson instead of Barkley??
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: DaveBrown74 on November 26, 2023, 01:08:17 PM
Post by: DaveBrown74 on November 26, 2023, 01:08:17 PM
Robinson seemed to take off a step or two early... he was behind Devito when the snap came. Either way you can't botch such a simple play up at this level.
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: DaveBrown74 on November 26, 2023, 01:09:16 PM
Post by: DaveBrown74 on November 26, 2023, 01:09:16 PM
Pats are lucky they got that penalty.
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: brownelvis54 on November 26, 2023, 01:10:36 PM
Post by: brownelvis54 on November 26, 2023, 01:10:36 PM
The Tank
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: bighitterdalama on November 26, 2023, 01:11:07 PM
Post by: bighitterdalama on November 26, 2023, 01:11:07 PM
Quote from: TDToomer on November 26, 2023, 12:52:53 PMI am probably the only one here toggling back and forth between this game and the Womens World Cup Slalom on NBC. Go Shiffrin go!
Probably as safe a bet as betting against the Jets going to the Super Bowl.
Now back to the issue at hand: exactly when does Kafka get fired and Daboll brings in Dorsey? Great opening drive going and Kafka has to get cute with the play calling. WTF.
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: Woody on November 26, 2023, 01:14:11 PM
Post by: Woody on November 26, 2023, 01:14:11 PM
Play calling is just odd
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Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: Woody on November 26, 2023, 01:16:12 PM
Post by: Woody on November 26, 2023, 01:16:12 PM
Robinson. Is not helping here
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Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: DaveBrown74 on November 26, 2023, 01:16:25 PM
Post by: DaveBrown74 on November 26, 2023, 01:16:25 PM
Wan'Dale was such a dumb pick in the top 50. You can get guys like him throughout day three.
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: MagicRat on November 26, 2023, 01:16:41 PM
Post by: MagicRat on November 26, 2023, 01:16:41 PM
So......the under again?
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: EDjohnst1981 on November 26, 2023, 01:17:21 PM
Post by: EDjohnst1981 on November 26, 2023, 01:17:21 PM
On the plus side Hyatt is getting open.
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: sooners56 on November 26, 2023, 01:17:59 PM
Post by: sooners56 on November 26, 2023, 01:17:59 PM
Robison ain't it. I've seen enough of him. Bad pick by the Giants. Hyatt looks legit though. He can catch.
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: bighitterdalama on November 26, 2023, 01:18:21 PM
Post by: bighitterdalama on November 26, 2023, 01:18:21 PM
Quote from: Woody on November 26, 2023, 01:14:11 PMPlay calling is just odd
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To date, two coordinators with better offenses have already been fired. How does Kafka (and Nate Hackett, for that matter) keep his job?
Full disclosure, I expect an OC change during the bye week.
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: brownelvis54 on November 26, 2023, 01:18:50 PM
Post by: brownelvis54 on November 26, 2023, 01:18:50 PM
Quote from: TDToomer on November 26, 2023, 12:52:53 PMI am probably the only one here toggling back and forth between this game and the Womens World Cup Slalom on NBC. Go Shiffrin go!
Me too, I am toggling back and forth between the Filipino kite flying championship and this game
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: bighitterdalama on November 26, 2023, 01:20:11 PM
Post by: bighitterdalama on November 26, 2023, 01:20:11 PM
Quote from: EDjohnst1981 on November 26, 2023, 01:17:21 PMOn the plus side Hyatt is getting open.
And he catches everything, Ed.
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: bighitterdalama on November 26, 2023, 01:21:47 PM
Post by: bighitterdalama on November 26, 2023, 01:21:47 PM
Quote from: brownelvis54 on November 26, 2023, 01:18:50 PMMe too, I am toggling back and forth between the Filipino kite flying championship and this game
National Horseshoe Championship from Pitchfork, South Dakota.
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: GeauxJints on November 26, 2023, 01:23:30 PM
Post by: GeauxJints on November 26, 2023, 01:23:30 PM
Tommy Gabagool throwing good balls, and looking comfortable in the pocket
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: bighitterdalama on November 26, 2023, 01:24:20 PM
Post by: bighitterdalama on November 26, 2023, 01:24:20 PM
Missing Dex big time, especially on passing downs.
Nice stop there.
Nice stop there.
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: TDToomer on November 26, 2023, 01:24:25 PM
Post by: TDToomer on November 26, 2023, 01:24:25 PM
If we could stop the at first impact they would never get a first down. Come on and tackle guys
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: TDToomer on November 26, 2023, 01:24:52 PM
Post by: TDToomer on November 26, 2023, 01:24:52 PM
Welcome back Adoree Jackson!
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: MagicRat on November 26, 2023, 01:26:37 PM
Post by: MagicRat on November 26, 2023, 01:26:37 PM
Quote from: bighitterdalama on November 26, 2023, 01:24:20 PMMissing Dex big time, especially on passing downs.I worried about that.
Nice stop there.
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: TDToomer on November 26, 2023, 01:27:55 PM
Post by: TDToomer on November 26, 2023, 01:27:55 PM
Why did we decline the DOG penalty and why couldn't we decline it earlier?
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: bighitterdalama on November 26, 2023, 01:28:28 PM
Post by: bighitterdalama on November 26, 2023, 01:28:28 PM
Quote from: MagicRat on November 26, 2023, 01:26:37 PMI worried about that.
The DTs are stout against the run but get little penetration in pass rush.
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: jgrangers2 on November 26, 2023, 01:30:32 PM
Post by: jgrangers2 on November 26, 2023, 01:30:32 PM
Quote from: TDToomer on November 26, 2023, 01:27:55 PMWhy did we decline the DOG penalty and why couldn't we decline it earlier?
Patriots probably wanted to give their punter the extra 5 yards of room
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: andrew_nyGiants on November 26, 2023, 01:32:04 PM
Post by: andrew_nyGiants on November 26, 2023, 01:32:04 PM
That was a perfect set up for a QB draw.
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Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: brownelvis54 on November 26, 2023, 01:33:19 PM
Post by: brownelvis54 on November 26, 2023, 01:33:19 PM
Quote from: bighitterdalama on November 26, 2023, 01:21:47 PMNational Horseshoe Championship from Pitchfork, South Dakota.
LMAO
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: MagicRat on November 26, 2023, 01:36:20 PM
Post by: MagicRat on November 26, 2023, 01:36:20 PM
I've said this about Gillan before, he's all leg and zero touch.
Also, the rugby technique, somehow (technicalities beyond me) seems to lead to a follow through, rather than a check, on the bounce.
We have a lot more issues than the punter, but Gillan's technique concerns me.
Also, the rugby technique, somehow (technicalities beyond me) seems to lead to a follow through, rather than a check, on the bounce.
We have a lot more issues than the punter, but Gillan's technique concerns me.
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: TDToomer on November 26, 2023, 01:36:49 PM
Post by: TDToomer on November 26, 2023, 01:36:49 PM
Quote from: jgrangers2 on November 26, 2023, 01:30:32 PMPatriots probably wanted to give their punter the extra 5 yards of room
They had no choice. The penalty was on them. We declined it.
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: MagicRat on November 26, 2023, 01:38:32 PM
Post by: MagicRat on November 26, 2023, 01:38:32 PM
Helluva play from Tae.
I'm a poet but don't know it.
I'm a poet but don't know it.
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: bighitterdalama on November 26, 2023, 01:38:47 PM
Post by: bighitterdalama on November 26, 2023, 01:38:47 PM
Yay!
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: TDToomer on November 26, 2023, 01:38:47 PM
Post by: TDToomer on November 26, 2023, 01:38:47 PM
Mac Jones is a terrible QB
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: jgrangers2 on November 26, 2023, 01:39:08 PM
Post by: jgrangers2 on November 26, 2023, 01:39:08 PM
Quote from: TDToomer on November 26, 2023, 01:36:49 PMThey had no choice. The penalty was on them. We declined it.
I know. I'm saying the Giants didn't want to give their punter the extra 5 yards of space to play with so they declined the penalty
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: DaveBrown74 on November 26, 2023, 01:39:20 PM
Post by: DaveBrown74 on November 26, 2023, 01:39:20 PM
Worried the Pats are tanking.
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: MagicRat on November 26, 2023, 01:40:11 PM
Post by: MagicRat on November 26, 2023, 01:40:11 PM
Quote from: TDToomer on November 26, 2023, 01:38:47 PMMac Jones is a terrible QBI can say with some confidence Tommy D is the best QB on the field today.
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: bighitterdalama on November 26, 2023, 01:42:20 PM
Post by: bighitterdalama on November 26, 2023, 01:42:20 PM
Neither of these coaches are tanking, Jeff. Its not in their DNA.
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: jgrangers2 on November 26, 2023, 01:42:46 PM
Post by: jgrangers2 on November 26, 2023, 01:42:46 PM
Quote from: DaveBrown74 on November 26, 2023, 01:39:20 PMWorried the Pats are tanking.
If you told me they were trying to lose, I think I'd believe you. Mac Jones looks horrendous
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: Woody on November 26, 2023, 01:42:51 PM
Post by: Woody on November 26, 2023, 01:42:51 PM
Catch the ball
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Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: DaveBrown74 on November 26, 2023, 01:43:09 PM
Post by: DaveBrown74 on November 26, 2023, 01:43:09 PM
Quote from: bighitterdalama on November 26, 2023, 01:42:20 PMNeither of these coaches are tanking, Jeff. Its not in their DNA.
It was tongue in cheek. But it's mind-boggling how bad the Pats have become. Belichick has to take some heat for this.
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: kingm56 on November 26, 2023, 01:43:34 PM
Post by: kingm56 on November 26, 2023, 01:43:34 PM
Quote from: DaveBrown74 on November 26, 2023, 01:39:20 PMWorried the Pats are tanking.
Pats fans are probably saying the same thing...
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: DaveBrown74 on November 26, 2023, 01:45:31 PM
Post by: DaveBrown74 on November 26, 2023, 01:45:31 PM
Quote from: kingm56 on November 26, 2023, 01:43:34 PMPats fans are probably saying the same thing...
Touche, Matt. :ok:
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: sooners56 on November 26, 2023, 01:45:58 PM
Post by: sooners56 on November 26, 2023, 01:45:58 PM
Such an exciting game 😂 these teams stink
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: Fast Eddie Felson on November 26, 2023, 01:47:18 PM
Post by: Fast Eddie Felson on November 26, 2023, 01:47:18 PM
I`ve never seen a broadcast where they interrupt game coverage to talk about bs from 20 years ago. WTF?
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: TDToomer on November 26, 2023, 01:47:24 PM
Post by: TDToomer on November 26, 2023, 01:47:24 PM
Quote from: kingm56 on November 26, 2023, 01:43:34 PMPats fans are probably saying the same thing...
Most Pats fans aren't watching. They aren't used to being so bad unlike Giants fans. They have moved on to the Celtics and Bruins.
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: DaveBrown74 on November 26, 2023, 01:50:41 PM
Post by: DaveBrown74 on November 26, 2023, 01:50:41 PM
Quote from: TDToomer on November 26, 2023, 01:47:24 PMMost Pats fans aren't watching. They aren't used to being so bad unlike Giants fans. They have moved on to the Celtics and Bruins.
Good. They saw their team get their asses lit up by the Rangers yesterday at MSG.
Enjoy your Sunday, fair weather Pats fans...
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: bighitterdalama on November 26, 2023, 01:54:10 PM
Post by: bighitterdalama on November 26, 2023, 01:54:10 PM
Quote from: TDToomer on November 26, 2023, 01:47:24 PMMost Pats fans aren't watching. They aren't used to being so bad unlike Giants fans. They have moved on to the Celtics and Bruins.
They probably didn't enjoy the Bruins v Rangers game. But I did.
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: TDToomer on November 26, 2023, 01:56:34 PM
Post by: TDToomer on November 26, 2023, 01:56:34 PM
Update since everyone is so interested. Mikaela Shiffrin won.
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: Woody on November 26, 2023, 01:56:38 PM
Post by: Woody on November 26, 2023, 01:56:38 PM
Both these teams suck
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Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: DaveBrown74 on November 26, 2023, 01:58:28 PM
Post by: DaveBrown74 on November 26, 2023, 01:58:28 PM
Quote from: Woody on November 26, 2023, 01:56:38 PMBoth these teams suck
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Well hopefully we win, so we can get to 4-8 and establish more of a winning culture here.
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: Woody on November 26, 2023, 01:59:17 PM
Post by: Woody on November 26, 2023, 01:59:17 PM
Quote from: DaveBrown74 on November 26, 2023, 01:58:28 PMWell hopefully we win, so we can get to 4-8 and establish more of a winning culture here.What are you talking about?
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Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: andrew_nyGiants on November 26, 2023, 01:59:44 PM
Post by: andrew_nyGiants on November 26, 2023, 01:59:44 PM
Quote from: bighitterdalama on November 26, 2023, 01:54:10 PMThey probably didn't enjoy the Bruins v Rangers game. But I did.So you're saying, they're front runners?
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Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: Blue Since ‘62 on November 26, 2023, 02:00:32 PM
Post by: Blue Since ‘62 on November 26, 2023, 02:00:32 PM
This should be called the Toilet Bowl.
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: MagicRat on November 26, 2023, 02:03:49 PM
Post by: MagicRat on November 26, 2023, 02:03:49 PM
That looked a generous delay non call.
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: GloryDays on November 26, 2023, 02:04:16 PM
Post by: GloryDays on November 26, 2023, 02:04:16 PM
Was there a closeout sale on those ugly brown color jackets?🤔
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: Jersey Heel on November 26, 2023, 02:04:56 PM
Post by: Jersey Heel on November 26, 2023, 02:04:56 PM
These teams are terrible.
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: bighitterdalama on November 26, 2023, 02:05:45 PM
Post by: bighitterdalama on November 26, 2023, 02:05:45 PM
That's f#cking twice on this drive where the play clock ran out and no delay of game. Neither was even close.
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: andrew_nyGiants on November 26, 2023, 02:06:05 PM
Post by: andrew_nyGiants on November 26, 2023, 02:06:05 PM
I count 2 delay of games they got away with on this drive
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Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: MagicRat on November 26, 2023, 02:06:11 PM
Post by: MagicRat on November 26, 2023, 02:06:11 PM
Allowing these to convert on 3rd and 15 should get Wink fired.
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: Woody on November 26, 2023, 02:06:14 PM
Post by: Woody on November 26, 2023, 02:06:14 PM
Quote from: bighitterdalama on November 26, 2023, 02:05:45 PMThat's fucking twice on this drive where the play clock ran out and no delay of game. Neither was even close.Yup
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Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: MagicRat on November 26, 2023, 02:07:00 PM
Post by: MagicRat on November 26, 2023, 02:07:00 PM
Quote from: andrew_nyGiants on November 26, 2023, 02:06:05 PMI count 2 delay of games they got away with on this driveOfficials are very generous on that.
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Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: bighitterdalama on November 26, 2023, 02:07:11 PM
Post by: bighitterdalama on November 26, 2023, 02:07:11 PM
Yay!
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: MagicRat on November 26, 2023, 02:07:33 PM
Post by: MagicRat on November 26, 2023, 02:07:33 PM
Oh Mac Jones, I feel your pain......
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: andrew_nyGiants on November 26, 2023, 02:07:45 PM
Post by: andrew_nyGiants on November 26, 2023, 02:07:45 PM
TD pass NOW!
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Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: TDToomer on November 26, 2023, 02:08:59 PM
Post by: TDToomer on November 26, 2023, 02:08:59 PM
There are going to be more turnovers than scores in this game
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: andrew_nyGiants on November 26, 2023, 02:09:10 PM
Post by: andrew_nyGiants on November 26, 2023, 02:09:10 PM
Ugh!
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Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: bighitterdalama on November 26, 2023, 02:09:40 PM
Post by: bighitterdalama on November 26, 2023, 02:09:40 PM
Not a single target to a tight end.
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: DaveBrown74 on November 26, 2023, 02:10:12 PM
Post by: DaveBrown74 on November 26, 2023, 02:10:12 PM
Hyatt is worlds better than any other receiver on this team.
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: MagicRat on November 26, 2023, 02:10:23 PM
Post by: MagicRat on November 26, 2023, 02:10:23 PM
Was Devito out of the pocket there?
Oh just about.
Hyatt!!
Oh just about.
Hyatt!!
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: bighitterdalama on November 26, 2023, 02:11:19 PM
Post by: bighitterdalama on November 26, 2023, 02:11:19 PM
Quote from: bighitterdalama on November 26, 2023, 02:09:40 PMNot a single target to a tight end.
Or a back
Title: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: andrew_nyGiants on November 26, 2023, 02:11:30 PM
Post by: andrew_nyGiants on November 26, 2023, 02:11:30 PM
Not a single pass into the end zone
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Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: Woody on November 26, 2023, 02:12:24 PM
Post by: Woody on November 26, 2023, 02:12:24 PM
This obsession with Robinson is getting old and not working
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Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: sooners56 on November 26, 2023, 02:13:15 PM
Post by: sooners56 on November 26, 2023, 02:13:15 PM
Barkley should get more passing routes
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: bighitterdalama on November 26, 2023, 02:14:41 PM
Post by: bighitterdalama on November 26, 2023, 02:14:41 PM
Woo hoo!
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: TDToomer on November 26, 2023, 02:16:09 PM
Post by: TDToomer on November 26, 2023, 02:16:09 PM
Great 2nd effort by Hodgins. First team to double digits wins this game.
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: MagicRat on November 26, 2023, 02:17:38 PM
Post by: MagicRat on November 26, 2023, 02:17:38 PM
That's one more TD than I thought I'd see today.
That was a good effort by Hodgins but if that had been a Giants back I'd be asking questions about the tackling.
That was a good effort by Hodgins but if that had been a Giants back I'd be asking questions about the tackling.
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: EDjohnst1981 on November 26, 2023, 02:18:33 PM
Post by: EDjohnst1981 on November 26, 2023, 02:18:33 PM
7 TDs for TdV.
No weapons no line and yet produces the goods.
Joe might bung him $20mil guaranteed at this rate /sarcasm/
No weapons no line and yet produces the goods.
Joe might bung him $20mil guaranteed at this rate /sarcasm/
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: DaveBrown74 on November 26, 2023, 02:22:13 PM
Post by: DaveBrown74 on November 26, 2023, 02:22:13 PM
It's astonishing to me that we have basically no starting quality IDLs in the active roster today and the Pats are running the ball even less than when they had Brady.
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: TDToomer on November 26, 2023, 02:22:16 PM
Post by: TDToomer on November 26, 2023, 02:22:16 PM
That was a fumble! Why aren't they reviewing it?
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: DaveBrown74 on November 26, 2023, 02:22:37 PM
Post by: DaveBrown74 on November 26, 2023, 02:22:37 PM
Quote from: TDToomer on November 26, 2023, 02:22:16 PMThat was a fumble! Why aren't they reviewing it?
Pats recovered it, no?
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: MagicRat on November 26, 2023, 02:23:02 PM
Post by: MagicRat on November 26, 2023, 02:23:02 PM
Quote from: TDToomer on November 26, 2023, 02:22:16 PMThat was a fumble! Why aren't they reviewing it?I thought it was a fumble but they recovered?
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: MagicRat on November 26, 2023, 02:23:39 PM
Post by: MagicRat on November 26, 2023, 02:23:39 PM
You think we see Mac Jones 2nd half?
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: DaveBrown74 on November 26, 2023, 02:28:43 PM
Post by: DaveBrown74 on November 26, 2023, 02:28:43 PM
Quote from: MagicRat on November 26, 2023, 02:23:39 PMYou think we see Mac Jones 2nd half?
Was wondering about that. My guess is probably.
They're idiots for not running it more in this game though, regardless of who the QB is. Why would you throw to these shitty receivers at Banks and Adoree when it's pretty obvious we're going to have a very tough time with Rhamondre Stevenson today? Especially when you have one of the worst starting QBs in the league?
Just doesn't make sense.
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: TDToomer on November 26, 2023, 02:29:25 PM
Post by: TDToomer on November 26, 2023, 02:29:25 PM
Quote from: MagicRat on November 26, 2023, 02:23:39 PMYou think we see Mac Jones 2nd half?
Probably Bailey Zappe. The Patriots would do better with the corpse of Frank Zappa.
EDIT: I win!
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: Woody on November 26, 2023, 02:45:18 PM
Post by: Woody on November 26, 2023, 02:45:18 PM
How does a pro kicker kick it out bound on
N a kickoff
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N a kickoff
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Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: TDToomer on November 26, 2023, 02:46:50 PM
Post by: TDToomer on November 26, 2023, 02:46:50 PM
How is this D so bad at tackling?
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: MagicRat on November 26, 2023, 02:47:26 PM
Post by: MagicRat on November 26, 2023, 02:47:26 PM
I'm not loving them converting these 3rd and longs.
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: MagicRat on November 26, 2023, 02:47:55 PM
Post by: MagicRat on November 26, 2023, 02:47:55 PM
That has to be a hold?
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: killarich on November 26, 2023, 02:51:08 PM
Post by: killarich on November 26, 2023, 02:51:08 PM
We are the only team who cant defend the dumpoffs
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: MagicRat on November 26, 2023, 02:52:17 PM
Post by: MagicRat on November 26, 2023, 02:52:17 PM
They went through us like a hot knife through butter.
We're losing this unless we stiffen.
We're losing this unless we stiffen.
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: TDToomer on November 26, 2023, 02:53:06 PM
Post by: TDToomer on November 26, 2023, 02:53:06 PM
Quote from: killarich on November 26, 2023, 02:51:08 PMWe are the only team who cant defend the dumpoffs
It's pathetic. Every 2 yard pass turns into a 10 yard game or a first down. It is painfully obvious what the Patriots are trying to do and Wink has no answer.
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: GloryDays on November 26, 2023, 02:54:11 PM
Post by: GloryDays on November 26, 2023, 02:54:11 PM
Quote from: MagicRat on November 26, 2023, 02:52:17 PMThey went through us like a hot knife through butter.
We're losing this unless we stiffen.
With Mcfaden out, they will run much easier now
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: bighitterdalama on November 26, 2023, 02:55:24 PM
Post by: bighitterdalama on November 26, 2023, 02:55:24 PM
It all started with the kickoff. Just kick the effin thing into the end zone. WTF does McGaughey have to do to get his @ss fired? J.H. Christ Almighty.
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: GloryDays on November 26, 2023, 02:57:01 PM
Post by: GloryDays on November 26, 2023, 02:57:01 PM
Lame play calling and lousy O line= losing season
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: killarich on November 26, 2023, 02:57:34 PM
Post by: killarich on November 26, 2023, 02:57:34 PM
Barkley has to realize , that he royally screwed up by not taking a very fair contract offer from the Giants
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: kingm56 on November 26, 2023, 02:57:59 PM
Post by: kingm56 on November 26, 2023, 02:57:59 PM
Its nice to have a QB who can get the ball downfield.
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: TDToomer on November 26, 2023, 02:58:22 PM
Post by: TDToomer on November 26, 2023, 02:58:22 PM
Hyatt is something special. Perfect throw.
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: bighitterdalama on November 26, 2023, 02:58:27 PM
Post by: bighitterdalama on November 26, 2023, 02:58:27 PM
Hyatt catches everything.
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: MagicRat on November 26, 2023, 02:58:42 PM
Post by: MagicRat on November 26, 2023, 02:58:42 PM
Devito to Hyatt......a Montana to Rice for the 2020s?
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: Woody on November 26, 2023, 02:59:16 PM
Post by: Woody on November 26, 2023, 02:59:16 PM
Just run the ball
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Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: killarich on November 26, 2023, 02:59:37 PM
Post by: killarich on November 26, 2023, 02:59:37 PM
This O-line is rough man
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: kingm56 on November 26, 2023, 03:00:03 PM
Post by: kingm56 on November 26, 2023, 03:00:03 PM
The rain will favor NE, as thier run game seems more effective.
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: Woody on November 26, 2023, 03:00:10 PM
Post by: Woody on November 26, 2023, 03:00:10 PM
Play calling is really bad
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Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: bighitterdalama on November 26, 2023, 03:00:17 PM
Post by: bighitterdalama on November 26, 2023, 03:00:17 PM
over/under on number of times DeVito is sacked this game? I've got 10.
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: Woody on November 26, 2023, 03:01:14 PM
Post by: Woody on November 26, 2023, 03:01:14 PM
Giants get a big play and try a trick play to end the momentum...every time
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Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: killarich on November 26, 2023, 03:03:44 PM
Post by: killarich on November 26, 2023, 03:03:44 PM
Defend these dumpoffs , stop over pursuing
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: miss86 on November 26, 2023, 03:04:16 PM
Post by: miss86 on November 26, 2023, 03:04:16 PM
Is there anybody on the defensive line that can stop the freaking runner?
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: GloryDays on November 26, 2023, 03:05:06 PM
Post by: GloryDays on November 26, 2023, 03:05:06 PM
Three running plays, two of them stopped by McFadden with an injured wrist
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: killarich on November 26, 2023, 03:06:00 PM
Post by: killarich on November 26, 2023, 03:06:00 PM
Is Azeez playing ?
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: MagicRat on November 26, 2023, 03:06:38 PM
Post by: MagicRat on November 26, 2023, 03:06:38 PM
This is ridiculous on third down.
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: killarich on November 26, 2023, 03:07:32 PM
Post by: killarich on November 26, 2023, 03:07:32 PM
Unbelievable .... This always happens to us
His elbow was down
Shouldnt even be in this position
His elbow was down
Shouldnt even be in this position
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: TDToomer on November 26, 2023, 03:07:55 PM
Post by: TDToomer on November 26, 2023, 03:07:55 PM
How can we not complete a Sack?
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: killarich on November 26, 2023, 03:10:05 PM
Post by: killarich on November 26, 2023, 03:10:05 PM
Lets see if this terrible run defense line can get a stop
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: killarich on November 26, 2023, 03:10:51 PM
Post by: killarich on November 26, 2023, 03:10:51 PM
That was a lot going on lol
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: killarich on November 26, 2023, 03:13:00 PM
Post by: killarich on November 26, 2023, 03:13:00 PM
If Devito had legs , he would probably be a legit starting QB in this league
Still hoping we win out and he makes Jersey proud lol
Still hoping we win out and he makes Jersey proud lol
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: killarich on November 26, 2023, 03:14:20 PM
Post by: killarich on November 26, 2023, 03:14:20 PM
So whats the deal with Waller ? is he done for the season ? Would have been nice to give Devito that extra weapon
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: MagicRat on November 26, 2023, 03:15:36 PM
Post by: MagicRat on November 26, 2023, 03:15:36 PM
Quote from: killarich on November 26, 2023, 03:14:20 PMSo whats the deal with Waller ? is he done for the season ? Would have been nice to give Devito that extra weaponHe's designated to return isn't he? Or do I have that wrong....
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: killarich on November 26, 2023, 03:17:52 PM
Post by: killarich on November 26, 2023, 03:17:52 PM
Devito hesitated .. shouldve just dumped it off
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: GloryDays on November 26, 2023, 03:18:18 PM
Post by: GloryDays on November 26, 2023, 03:18:18 PM
This is one fu**ed up officiating crew.. worse than our O line
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: killarich on November 26, 2023, 03:18:27 PM
Post by: killarich on November 26, 2023, 03:18:27 PM
Damn Pats will have good field position... game getting away from them
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: bighitterdalama on November 26, 2023, 03:19:10 PM
Post by: bighitterdalama on November 26, 2023, 03:19:10 PM
Typical Matt Breida play. Useless yards, then a punt.
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: killarich on November 26, 2023, 03:19:43 PM
Post by: killarich on November 26, 2023, 03:19:43 PM
YTF are you celebrating idiot... go for the fken ball ... that sh** irks me
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: MagicRat on November 26, 2023, 03:19:58 PM
Post by: MagicRat on November 26, 2023, 03:19:58 PM
Jaysus that was a brutal hit.
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: bighitterdalama on November 26, 2023, 03:20:21 PM
Post by: bighitterdalama on November 26, 2023, 03:20:21 PM
Hey Cam, why don't you skip the celebration and recover the punt you just forced?
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: DaveBrown74 on November 26, 2023, 03:20:43 PM
Post by: DaveBrown74 on November 26, 2023, 03:20:43 PM
Surprised hits like that one by Cam Brown are legal, given some of the stuff that's now not legal in this league.
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: GloryDays on November 26, 2023, 03:20:46 PM
Post by: GloryDays on November 26, 2023, 03:20:46 PM
What is up these players minds.. they must think the hit is more important than the ball!!!!!!
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: TDToomer on November 26, 2023, 03:21:06 PM
Post by: TDToomer on November 26, 2023, 03:21:06 PM
Cam Brown was more interested in celebrating his hit than noticing that the ball was still live and he could have recovered it. Like Michael SIngletery once said " You can't win with those guys".
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: Woody on November 26, 2023, 03:21:49 PM
Post by: Woody on November 26, 2023, 03:21:49 PM
Quote from: GloryDays on November 26, 2023, 03:20:46 PMWhat is up these players minds.. they must think the hit is more important than the ball!!!!!!Yeah but a big hit like means they are now a hero and must run into end zone
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Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: killarich on November 26, 2023, 03:22:36 PM
Post by: killarich on November 26, 2023, 03:22:36 PM
A pick or pick 6 would be nice
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: killarich on November 26, 2023, 03:23:23 PM
Post by: killarich on November 26, 2023, 03:23:23 PM
I dont understand how running backs just slide through our D-line like that
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: jgrangers2 on November 26, 2023, 03:23:26 PM
Post by: jgrangers2 on November 26, 2023, 03:23:26 PM
Why would the Patriots do anything but run the ball up the gut?
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: MagicRat on November 26, 2023, 03:24:41 PM
Post by: MagicRat on November 26, 2023, 03:24:41 PM
Why the f-k do they keep passing?
And frankly, who cares?
And frankly, who cares?
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: MagicRat on November 26, 2023, 03:25:08 PM
Post by: MagicRat on November 26, 2023, 03:25:08 PM
Quote from: killarich on November 26, 2023, 03:22:36 PMA pick or pick 6 would be niceAsk and you shall receive
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: killarich on November 26, 2023, 03:26:14 PM
Post by: killarich on November 26, 2023, 03:26:14 PM
That was a terrible spot by the ref
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: killarich on November 26, 2023, 03:26:54 PM
Post by: killarich on November 26, 2023, 03:26:54 PM
That was an interesting formation
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: TDToomer on November 26, 2023, 03:27:07 PM
Post by: TDToomer on November 26, 2023, 03:27:07 PM
Has Daboll ever had hair?
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: bighitterdalama on November 26, 2023, 03:27:46 PM
Post by: bighitterdalama on November 26, 2023, 03:27:46 PM
Phantom holding
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: GloryDays on November 26, 2023, 03:27:49 PM
Post by: GloryDays on November 26, 2023, 03:27:49 PM
What's with the officiating.. again?! 😡
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: TDToomer on November 26, 2023, 03:27:52 PM
Post by: TDToomer on November 26, 2023, 03:27:52 PM
Every single penalty is on us
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: killarich on November 26, 2023, 03:27:54 PM
Post by: killarich on November 26, 2023, 03:27:54 PM
God dammit... NOW the refs are throwing flags
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: miss86 on November 26, 2023, 03:28:16 PM
Post by: miss86 on November 26, 2023, 03:28:16 PM
Freaking Refs
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: coggs on November 26, 2023, 03:29:03 PM
Post by: coggs on November 26, 2023, 03:29:03 PM
Shame that someone will have to win this game.
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: bighitterdalama on November 26, 2023, 03:29:20 PM
Post by: bighitterdalama on November 26, 2023, 03:29:20 PM
You run on 1st and 20 and lose a yard? WTF!
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: killarich on November 26, 2023, 03:29:44 PM
Post by: killarich on November 26, 2023, 03:29:44 PM
Barkley , I just hate when he stopped behind the line of scrimmage its almost always going to go for a loss
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: killarich on November 26, 2023, 03:30:05 PM
Post by: killarich on November 26, 2023, 03:30:05 PM
Shep, purposely fell down... are fken kidding me
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: coggs on November 26, 2023, 03:30:17 PM
Post by: coggs on November 26, 2023, 03:30:17 PM
Really hope this game puts to rest any talk about DeVito being better than Jones.
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: killarich on November 26, 2023, 03:30:22 PM
Post by: killarich on November 26, 2023, 03:30:22 PM
W T F
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: TDToomer on November 26, 2023, 03:30:35 PM
Post by: TDToomer on November 26, 2023, 03:30:35 PM
WHY IS PARRIS CAMPBELL STILL HERE??? ~X(
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: Woody on November 26, 2023, 03:30:59 PM
Post by: Woody on November 26, 2023, 03:30:59 PM
Bull crap holding call
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Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: killarich on November 26, 2023, 03:31:08 PM
Post by: killarich on November 26, 2023, 03:31:08 PM
Goodness ugly kick, got in though
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: bighitterdalama on November 26, 2023, 03:31:21 PM
Post by: bighitterdalama on November 26, 2023, 03:31:21 PM
Release Paris Campbell already. To paraphrase Field Marshall Bernard Law Montgomery, Campbell is useless. Utterly useless.
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: Woody on November 26, 2023, 03:31:38 PM
Post by: Woody on November 26, 2023, 03:31:38 PM
Quote from: TDToomer on November 26, 2023, 03:30:35 PMWHY IS PARRIS CAMPBELL STILL HERE??? ~X(He threw the ball 2 yards behind him
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Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: killarich on November 26, 2023, 03:32:16 PM
Post by: killarich on November 26, 2023, 03:32:16 PM
Quote from: TDToomer on November 26, 2023, 03:30:35 PMWHY IS PARRIS CAMPBELL STILL HERE??? ~X(
To his credit, the ball was thrown badly
But its Paris, why use him .... he would have done nothing with it ... Is Robinson out ?
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: MagicRat on November 26, 2023, 03:32:25 PM
Post by: MagicRat on November 26, 2023, 03:32:25 PM
If Bill O'brien calls nothing but run plays, we don't get the ball back and lose 14 10.
C'mon Bill.....air it out, you know you want to.
C'mon Bill.....air it out, you know you want to.
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: killarich on November 26, 2023, 03:35:33 PM
Post by: killarich on November 26, 2023, 03:35:33 PM
Does our D-line purposely just open like that ?
How is here always major holes in it
How is here always major holes in it
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: bighitterdalama on November 26, 2023, 03:37:22 PM
Post by: bighitterdalama on November 26, 2023, 03:37:22 PM
Jihad Ward of all people!
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: MagicRat on November 26, 2023, 03:37:53 PM
Post by: MagicRat on November 26, 2023, 03:37:53 PM
Ward!!
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: killarich on November 26, 2023, 03:38:02 PM
Post by: killarich on November 26, 2023, 03:38:02 PM
Haddy sighting
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: TDToomer on November 26, 2023, 03:38:13 PM
Post by: TDToomer on November 26, 2023, 03:38:13 PM
Great time for the D to finally realize the 2nd half has begun.
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: killarich on November 26, 2023, 03:38:33 PM
Post by: killarich on November 26, 2023, 03:38:33 PM
Is Azeez playing ? Or is he just MIA ?
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: bighitterdalama on November 26, 2023, 03:39:13 PM
Post by: bighitterdalama on November 26, 2023, 03:39:13 PM
Quote from: killarich on November 26, 2023, 03:38:33 PMIs Azeez playing ? Or is he just MIA ?
Yes, he is out there.
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: TDToomer on November 26, 2023, 03:39:54 PM
Post by: TDToomer on November 26, 2023, 03:39:54 PM
Quote from: killarich on November 26, 2023, 03:38:02 PMHaddy sighting
Who?
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: killarich on November 26, 2023, 03:40:14 PM
Post by: killarich on November 26, 2023, 03:40:14 PM
Quote from: TDToomer on November 26, 2023, 03:39:54 PMWho?
Thats Ward's nickname
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: GloryDays on November 26, 2023, 03:42:33 PM
Post by: GloryDays on November 26, 2023, 03:42:33 PM
Another lousy play call on 3rd and 2
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: bighitterdalama on November 26, 2023, 03:42:52 PM
Post by: bighitterdalama on November 26, 2023, 03:42:52 PM
WTF with the play calling? Jesus H Effin Christ Almighty!
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: killarich on November 26, 2023, 03:42:59 PM
Post by: killarich on November 26, 2023, 03:42:59 PM
dammit man... we needed that first down
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: MagicRat on November 26, 2023, 03:43:11 PM
Post by: MagicRat on November 26, 2023, 03:43:11 PM
3rd and 2.....shotgun, empty backfield.
Why???????
Why???????
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: Woody on November 26, 2023, 03:43:40 PM
Post by: Woody on November 26, 2023, 03:43:40 PM
Robinson wide open on that play
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Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: killarich on November 26, 2023, 03:43:57 PM
Post by: killarich on November 26, 2023, 03:43:57 PM
The one time a dumpoff would have been ok.... You have to have Barkley out there as a security blanket not running down the sideline on 3rd and 2 ... WTF Kafka
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: bighitterdalama on November 26, 2023, 03:44:32 PM
Post by: bighitterdalama on November 26, 2023, 03:44:32 PM
. . . and then a xxxx punt!
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: Woody on November 26, 2023, 03:44:59 PM
Post by: Woody on November 26, 2023, 03:44:59 PM
Nice punt
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Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: killarich on November 26, 2023, 03:45:03 PM
Post by: killarich on November 26, 2023, 03:45:03 PM
Gilian is so inconsistent... what a terrible time to shank a punt
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: TDToomer on November 26, 2023, 03:45:03 PM
Post by: TDToomer on November 26, 2023, 03:45:03 PM
Everyone ready for some overtime?
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: GloryDays on November 26, 2023, 03:45:44 PM
Post by: GloryDays on November 26, 2023, 03:45:44 PM
And pretty bad special teams, as usual!
The only decent unit on this team is the DBs
The only decent unit on this team is the DBs
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: killarich on November 26, 2023, 03:46:08 PM
Post by: killarich on November 26, 2023, 03:46:08 PM
Wasnt Robinson and Nunez supposed to help fill in those holes on run defense ? What useless signings they turned out to be honestly
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: MagicRat on November 26, 2023, 03:46:12 PM
Post by: MagicRat on November 26, 2023, 03:46:12 PM
Quote from: TDToomer on November 26, 2023, 03:45:03 PMEveryone ready for some overtime?In the name of God no.
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: killarich on November 26, 2023, 03:46:53 PM
Post by: killarich on November 26, 2023, 03:46:53 PM
Quote from: GloryDays on November 26, 2023, 03:45:44 PMAnd pretty bad special teams, as usual!
The only decent unit on this team is the DBs
Surprisingly what was supposed to be our worst unit by far is the best in my eyes ... the linebacking corps
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: TDToomer on November 26, 2023, 03:47:16 PM
Post by: TDToomer on November 26, 2023, 03:47:16 PM
Okereke could have sealed the win right there ~X(
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: katkavage on November 26, 2023, 03:48:10 PM
Post by: katkavage on November 26, 2023, 03:48:10 PM
Pats QB play is beyond bad.
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: coggs on November 26, 2023, 03:48:34 PM
Post by: coggs on November 26, 2023, 03:48:34 PM
Quote from: killarich on November 26, 2023, 03:38:33 PMIs Azeez playing ? Or is he just MIA ?Not sure why people are still surprised that Ojulari is invisible. Guy is not any good despite what many want to believe.
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: bighitterdalama on November 26, 2023, 03:50:06 PM
Post by: bighitterdalama on November 26, 2023, 03:50:06 PM
That's an effin pick play!
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: killarich on November 26, 2023, 03:50:29 PM
Post by: killarich on November 26, 2023, 03:50:29 PM
HTF did they allow that to happen.. i knew from the jump they were going in that direction
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: killarich on November 26, 2023, 03:52:11 PM
Post by: killarich on November 26, 2023, 03:52:11 PM
uughhh doesnt surprise me... OT does not bode well for us...because Barkley is borderline useless unless he breaks out that occasional huge play
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: TDToomer on November 26, 2023, 03:52:47 PM
Post by: TDToomer on November 26, 2023, 03:52:47 PM
Seems like Bill B is playing for OT
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: killarich on November 26, 2023, 03:53:29 PM
Post by: killarich on November 26, 2023, 03:53:29 PM
Call a fken timeout !!
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: TDToomer on November 26, 2023, 03:53:41 PM
Post by: TDToomer on November 26, 2023, 03:53:41 PM
Why aren't we calling time outs?
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: MagicRat on November 26, 2023, 03:53:46 PM
Post by: MagicRat on November 26, 2023, 03:53:46 PM
Miss....please miss, I can't take any more.....
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: killarich on November 26, 2023, 03:54:15 PM
Post by: killarich on November 26, 2023, 03:54:15 PM
Daboll what kind of pu*** sh** is that ?
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: TDToomer on November 26, 2023, 03:55:44 PM
Post by: TDToomer on November 26, 2023, 03:55:44 PM
Oh sure the Patriots aren't tanking on purpose!
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: killarich on November 26, 2023, 03:55:55 PM
Post by: killarich on November 26, 2023, 03:55:55 PM
Wow ...Pats deserve that high draft pick
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: bighitterdalama on November 26, 2023, 03:56:14 PM
Post by: bighitterdalama on November 26, 2023, 03:56:14 PM
Yay! And WOW!
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: killarich on November 26, 2023, 03:56:20 PM
Post by: killarich on November 26, 2023, 03:56:20 PM
Lol seeing Joe Judge out there
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: Jolly Blue Giant on November 26, 2023, 03:56:26 PM
Post by: Jolly Blue Giant on November 26, 2023, 03:56:26 PM
And just like that, we fall out of the QB, Harrison Jr., sweepstakes
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: killarich on November 26, 2023, 03:57:23 PM
Post by: killarich on November 26, 2023, 03:57:23 PM
Lol wow, announcers laughing at Giants fireworks for beating the pats
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: MagicRat on November 26, 2023, 03:57:32 PM
Post by: MagicRat on November 26, 2023, 03:57:32 PM
Two words spring to mind.
"Thank" and "f u *k".
I haven't wanted a FG missed so bad since 25.
I think I'd have chewed an arm off if I had to watch OT.
"Thank" and "f u *k".
I haven't wanted a FG missed so bad since 25.
I think I'd have chewed an arm off if I had to watch OT.
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: Blue Since ‘62 on November 26, 2023, 03:57:59 PM
Post by: Blue Since ‘62 on November 26, 2023, 03:57:59 PM
This team obviously didn't get the memo.
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: Stringer Bell on November 26, 2023, 03:58:03 PM
Post by: Stringer Bell on November 26, 2023, 03:58:03 PM
Can't wait for all the posts ripping the Giants for reaching on Bo Nix after winning these meaningless games cost them a shot at Maye.
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: killarich on November 26, 2023, 04:00:38 PM
Post by: killarich on November 26, 2023, 04:00:38 PM
Damn so we probably arent going to get a QB worthy of a first round pick .....Honestly if thats the case ..... Can we just draft 2 linemen with our first 2 picks ... even if that means moving Neal to guard as an experiment
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: spiderblue43 on November 26, 2023, 04:01:35 PM
Post by: spiderblue43 on November 26, 2023, 04:01:35 PM
The definition of "meh" win. Close to pure tank job I ever saw.
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: TDToomer on November 26, 2023, 04:02:00 PM
Post by: TDToomer on November 26, 2023, 04:02:00 PM
We can always trade up with a team that doesn't need a QB. The Bears won't use both picks on a QB.
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: DaveBrown74 on November 26, 2023, 04:02:25 PM
Post by: DaveBrown74 on November 26, 2023, 04:02:25 PM
No chance that kicker was trying to make that.
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: Stringer Bell on November 26, 2023, 04:04:27 PM
Post by: Stringer Bell on November 26, 2023, 04:04:27 PM
Quote from: TDToomer on November 26, 2023, 04:02:00 PMWe can always trade up with a team that doesn't need a QB. The Bears won't use both picks on a QB.
This team has way too many holes to be trading a bunch of draft picks.
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: shadowspinner0 on November 26, 2023, 04:04:59 PM
Post by: shadowspinner0 on November 26, 2023, 04:04:59 PM
So if we miss out on a top QB, what exactly is the plan for QB in 2024? Unless you believe the QB position doesn't matter. Hope people are excited to run it back with DJ in 2024
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: madbadger on November 26, 2023, 04:06:00 PM
Post by: madbadger on November 26, 2023, 04:06:00 PM
So was Daniel Jones $48.25 million better than DeVito this season?
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: killarich on November 26, 2023, 04:08:20 PM
Post by: killarich on November 26, 2023, 04:08:20 PM
Quote from: shadowspinner0 on November 26, 2023, 04:04:59 PMSo if we miss out on a top QB, what exactly is the plan for QB in 2024? Unless you believe the QB position doesn't matter. Hope people are excited to run it back with DJ in 2024
At this point this is the only option.... we better do nothing but draft O-linemen with our first 2 picks ... See if Neal can play guard
After QB ... O-line is the obvious need by a mile... and we need a DT who can actually help stop the run... I thought we solved that with our free agent signings but that was obviously a miss... good thing they are only 1 year signings
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: AZGiantFan on November 26, 2023, 04:09:13 PM
Post by: AZGiantFan on November 26, 2023, 04:09:13 PM
Quote from: killarich on November 26, 2023, 04:00:38 PMDamn so we probably arent going to get a QB worthy of a first round pick .....Honestly if thats the case ..... Can we just draft 2 linemen with our first 2 picks ... even if that means moving Neal to guard as an experiment
They've already thrown too much draft capital at the line, IMO, with only one success to point to. It's reminiscent of the definition of insanity - doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: spiderblue43 on November 26, 2023, 04:11:37 PM
Post by: spiderblue43 on November 26, 2023, 04:11:37 PM
Quote from: madbadger on November 26, 2023, 04:06:00 PMSo was Daniel Jones $48.25 million better than DeVito this season?
Nope. Can't say Jones was better-an indictment on DJ.. :doh:
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: killarich on November 26, 2023, 04:12:43 PM
Post by: killarich on November 26, 2023, 04:12:43 PM
Quote from: AZGiantFan on November 26, 2023, 04:09:13 PMThey've already thrown too much draft capital at the line, IMO, with only one success to point to. It's reminiscent of the definition of insanity - doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.
Still dont think you just stop because it hasnt "worked"... Neal may be on the verge of not working out... but we have Thomas and JMS ..... keep building the line at this point...
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: GloryDays on November 26, 2023, 04:14:47 PM
Post by: GloryDays on November 26, 2023, 04:14:47 PM
We won the ineptitude bowl 👏
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: andrew_nyGiants on November 26, 2023, 04:15:36 PM
Post by: andrew_nyGiants on November 26, 2023, 04:15:36 PM
I'd like to have a high enough pick to nab Maserati Marv.
2025 we can snag Arch Manning and viola the recreation of Manning to Harrison!
LOL!!
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2025 we can snag Arch Manning and viola the recreation of Manning to Harrison!
LOL!!
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Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: londonblue on November 26, 2023, 04:16:24 PM
Post by: londonblue on November 26, 2023, 04:16:24 PM
Providing we win the turnover battle by at least two we have a chance against the very worst teams in the league...that is as close to glass half full as I can get here.
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: MagicRat on November 26, 2023, 04:16:41 PM
Post by: MagicRat on November 26, 2023, 04:16:41 PM
Quote from: GloryDays on November 26, 2023, 04:14:47 PMWe won the ineptitude bowl 👏No, we just didn't lose it.
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: killarich on November 26, 2023, 04:17:01 PM
Post by: killarich on November 26, 2023, 04:17:01 PM
Quote from: andrew_nyGiants on November 26, 2023, 04:15:36 PMI'd like to have a high enough pick to nab Maserati Marv.
2025 we can snag Arch Manning and viola the recreation of Manning to Harrison!
LOL!!
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I wouldn't mind having another Manning
Low key this is probably what the Mara's want
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: DaveBrown74 on November 26, 2023, 04:19:24 PM
Post by: DaveBrown74 on November 26, 2023, 04:19:24 PM
Quote from: Stringer Bell on November 26, 2023, 04:04:27 PMThis team has way too many holes to be trading a bunch of draft picks.
Nobody that's picking something like 5th-8th doesn't have lots of holes. If they have a very strong view on a QB that requires a trade-up, and the opportunity to do that is actually there, I have no issue with that myself. Getting a 21-23 year old QB who is going to develop into a Josh Allen type player is worth struggling for 2-3 more years for.
The Giants won't do it though, so I wouldn't worry too much.
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: madbadger on November 26, 2023, 04:22:53 PM
Post by: madbadger on November 26, 2023, 04:22:53 PM
Quote from: andrew_nyGiants on November 26, 2023, 04:15:36 PMI'd like to have a high enough pick to nab Maserati Marv.
2025 we can snag Arch Manning and viola the recreation of Manning to Harrison!
LOL!!
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Manning isn't draft eligible till the 2026 draft.
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: Stringer Bell on November 26, 2023, 04:31:59 PM
Post by: Stringer Bell on November 26, 2023, 04:31:59 PM
Quote from: DaveBrown74 on November 26, 2023, 04:19:24 PMNobody that's picking something like 5th-8th doesn't have lots of holes. If they have a very strong view on a QB that requires a trade-up, and the opportunity to do that is actually there, I have no issue with that myself. Getting a 21-23 year old QB who is going to develop into a Josh Allen type player is worth struggling for 2-3 more years for.
The Giants won't do it though, so I wouldn't worry too much.
Disagree. Worth struggling for more than half of their new QB's rookie deal? That completely defeats the purpose of having a good, young QB.
They're now looking at pick #10. To get to #2, they'd need to trade #10, their 2nd rounder, and next year's 1st. So you're trading 3 starters for 1 on a team that desperately needs to fill multiple positions in their starting lineup.
You're trading away the ability to select a plug and play starter on the OL by trading that 2nd rounder. And given they will struggle, you're trading a 1st rounder in 2025 that will be a top 10 pick.
The fact is these 2 meaningless wins have put this team in a terrible spot.
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: GeauxJints on November 26, 2023, 04:36:43 PM
Post by: GeauxJints on November 26, 2023, 04:36:43 PM
This is an obvious stretch but Tommy Devito just did what rookie QBs can never do in beating BB. Wasn't the prettiest, but great QB rating for him.
My question is, if Tommy continues to play well and we get a few more W's and he improves every game, is there a point that you think hey, this guy can be a Brock Purdy if we put him in the right system?
And that "right" system probably wound't be designed by Kafka. The kid throws a nice accurate long ball, can we get that designed to happen more often please.
My question is, if Tommy continues to play well and we get a few more W's and he improves every game, is there a point that you think hey, this guy can be a Brock Purdy if we put him in the right system?
And that "right" system probably wound't be designed by Kafka. The kid throws a nice accurate long ball, can we get that designed to happen more often please.
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: Philosophers on November 26, 2023, 04:39:00 PM
Post by: Philosophers on November 26, 2023, 04:39:00 PM
Quote from: AZGiantFan on November 26, 2023, 04:09:13 PMThey've already thrown too much draft capital at the line, IMO, with only one success to point to. It's reminiscent of the definition of insanity - doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.
If your problem is still the OL no matter how much draft capital you've invested, how do you not keep investing in it when it is clearly the worst position group on the team and the primary reason the offense cant do anything?
What is the stat now, 26 sacks given up in the last 4 games? 99% of QBs can't function in those conditions game in and game out.
What do you think an improved D will get us? Still a 3-4 win type team.
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: AZGiantFan on November 26, 2023, 04:42:28 PM
Post by: AZGiantFan on November 26, 2023, 04:42:28 PM
Quote from: Philosophers on November 26, 2023, 04:39:00 PMIf your problem is still the OL no matter how much draft capital you've invested, how do you not keep investing in it when it is clearly the worst position group on the team and the primary reason the offense cant do anything?
What is the stat now, 26 sacks given up in the last 4 games? 99% of QBs can't function in those conditions game in and game out.
What do you think an improved D will get us? Still a 3-4 win type team.
Because none of the best olines in the league are built with high draft choices. And even if it works out, as is hssn't for the Giants, you eventually have to let them go because you can't pay all of them.
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: andrew_nyGiants on November 26, 2023, 04:43:10 PM
Post by: andrew_nyGiants on November 26, 2023, 04:43:10 PM
Quote from: Philosophers on November 26, 2023, 04:39:00 PMIf your problem is still the OL no matter how much draft capital you've invested, how do you not keep investing in it when it is clearly the worst position group on the team and the primary reason the offense cant do anything?If as you outline, the problem is OL no matter how much draft capital is invested; perhaps it's not the draft but the teachers who give the strongest opinion on the position and then fail to develop the players drafted.
What is the stat now, 26 sacks given up in the last 4 games? 99% of QBs can't function in those conditions game in and game out.
What do you think an improved D will get us? Still a 3-4 win type team.
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Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: Woody on November 26, 2023, 04:44:16 PM
Post by: Woody on November 26, 2023, 04:44:16 PM
A win is a win. I live in Patriots country and I really don't care about draft order....but living in Pats land where Brady and Belechiek are living legends a win against the pats is very satisfying.
Not to mention my favorite numbers are 42 and 46!
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Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: AZGiantFan on November 26, 2023, 04:48:20 PM
Post by: AZGiantFan on November 26, 2023, 04:48:20 PM
Quote from: killarich on November 26, 2023, 04:12:43 PMStill dont think you just stop because it hasnt "worked"... Neal may be on the verge of not working out... but we have Thomas and JMS ..... keep building the line at this point...
It doesn't work for anyone. I suggest you take a hard look at the players on the best olines in the league. A clue - not many high draft choices. They have Thomas, who was nearly a bust because of initial bad coaching. They have JMS but they don't yet know what he is. They have Neal, who is increasingly looking like Flowers 2.0.
The answer isn't high draft choices, it is better evaluation of oline talent and MUCH better coaching, IMO.
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: Painter on November 26, 2023, 04:48:35 PM
Post by: Painter on November 26, 2023, 04:48:35 PM
Quote from: madbadger on November 26, 2023, 04:06:00 PMSo was Daniel Jones $48.25 million better than DeVito this season?
I get your point, badge, but after another beauty at least you didn't ask us to spell feckless. Still, it's hardly a matter of comparing the two when one guy will be/must be the starter for at least next season given his cap cost-live or dead-while the other guy, if he's still around, currently makes an NFL $44K per game ham sandwich and still lives with his mom.
Cheers! or whatever.
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: AZGiantFan on November 26, 2023, 04:49:10 PM
Post by: AZGiantFan on November 26, 2023, 04:49:10 PM
Quote from: andrew_nyGiants on November 26, 2023, 04:43:10 PMIf as you outline, the problem is OL no matter how much draft capital is invested; perhaps it's not the draft but the teachers who give the strongest opinion on the position and then fail to develop the players drafted.
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THIS! This, this, this.
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: coggs on November 26, 2023, 04:52:35 PM
Post by: coggs on November 26, 2023, 04:52:35 PM
Quote from: GeauxJints on November 26, 2023, 04:36:43 PMThis is an obvious stretch but Tommy Devito just did what rookie QBs can never do in beating BB. Wasn't the prettiest, but great QB rating for him.OBVIOUS stretch? The world's greatest yoga instructors wish they had the ability to stretch like this
My question is, if Tommy continues to play well and we get a few more W's and he improves every game, is there a point that you think hey, this guy can be a Brock Purdy if we put him in the right system?
And that "right" system probably wound't be designed by Kafka. The kid throws a nice accurate long ball, can we get that designed to happen more often please.
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: killarich on November 26, 2023, 04:56:42 PM
Post by: killarich on November 26, 2023, 04:56:42 PM
Quote from: AZGiantFan on November 26, 2023, 04:48:20 PMIt doesn't work for anyone. I suggest you take a hard look at the players on the best olines in the league. A clue - not many high draft choices. They have Thomas, who was nearly a bust because of initial bad coaching. They have JMS but they don't yet know what he is. They have Neal, who is increasingly looking like Flowers 2.0.
The answer isn't high draft choices, it is better evaluation of oline talent and MUCH better coaching, IMO.
I'm not doubting what you are saying
I agree on both points
But besides qb ... o-line is still an obvious need.... If you think you have another Andrew Thomas at pick #10 or where ever we are drafting to play RT I don't see how you can pass on him
And in the second round you have an obvious plug n play like JMS to play one of the guard spots I also don't think you pass on it
But I agree coaching is very flawed on all aspects offensively
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: GloryDays on November 26, 2023, 04:59:30 PM
Post by: GloryDays on November 26, 2023, 04:59:30 PM
Quote from: Philosophers on November 26, 2023, 04:39:00 PMIf your problem is still the OL no matter how much draft capital you've invested, how do you not keep investing in it when it is clearly the worst position group on the team and the primary reason the offense cant do anything?Our scouts or whoever has the final say on the Oline draft picks has no eye for line talent... you start right there and make the right changes.
What is the stat now, 26 sacks given up in the last 4 games? 99% of QBs can't function in those conditions game in and game out.
What do you think an improved D will get us? Still a 3-4 win type team.
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: Philosophers on November 26, 2023, 05:04:19 PM
Post by: Philosophers on November 26, 2023, 05:04:19 PM
Quote from: andrew_nyGiants on November 26, 2023, 04:43:10 PMIf as you outline, the problem is OL no matter how much draft capital is invested; perhaps it's not the draft but the teachers who give the strongest opinion on the position and then fail to develop the players drafted.
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I never said "do not replace the teacher." That's move #1 and we all agree on that. I still think we need more help. Thomas has been dinged up nearly every year. Eze and Neal have missed enough time to warrant concern. Our youngsters are more beaten up than people realize.
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: NY47GIANTS on November 26, 2023, 05:16:56 PM
Post by: NY47GIANTS on November 26, 2023, 05:16:56 PM
They should get this Devito kid signed long term with a low dollar per year average.
That way they can afford to renegotiate the Danrel Jones contract, extend him, and give him even more money per touchdown.
$50 million per year, or $3.33mil per TD sounds fair. Who says no??!?
With the new Burrow and Mahommes deals done, Danrel is being criminally underpaid.
The key is obviously getting the right deal done with Devito.
That way Devito can continue to play QB for this franchise and the owner and fanbase can continue to make excuses for why Danrel can't do what Devito does.
WIN / WIN
:no:
:surrender:
An Undrafted Free Agent rookie QB, that lives at home with his parents still, and is being used for clickbait and cheezy feel-good commercials, is outperforming our $40mil a year QB in every single stat or metric relevant to a Quarterback. Redfaced
If it hasn't already; let that sink in...
That way they can afford to renegotiate the Danrel Jones contract, extend him, and give him even more money per touchdown.
$50 million per year, or $3.33mil per TD sounds fair. Who says no??!?
With the new Burrow and Mahommes deals done, Danrel is being criminally underpaid.
The key is obviously getting the right deal done with Devito.
That way Devito can continue to play QB for this franchise and the owner and fanbase can continue to make excuses for why Danrel can't do what Devito does.
WIN / WIN
:no:
:surrender:
An Undrafted Free Agent rookie QB, that lives at home with his parents still, and is being used for clickbait and cheezy feel-good commercials, is outperforming our $40mil a year QB in every single stat or metric relevant to a Quarterback. Redfaced
If it hasn't already; let that sink in...
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: DaveBrown74 on November 26, 2023, 05:39:12 PM
Post by: DaveBrown74 on November 26, 2023, 05:39:12 PM
Quote from: Stringer Bell on November 26, 2023, 04:31:59 PMDisagree. Worth struggling for more than half of their new QB's rookie deal? That completely defeats the purpose of having a good, young QB.
They're now looking at pick #10. To get to #2, they'd need to trade #10, their 2nd rounder, and next year's 1st. So you're trading 3 starters for 1 on a team that desperately needs to fill multiple positions in their starting lineup.
You're trading away the ability to select a plug and play starter on the OL by trading that 2nd rounder. And given they will struggle, you're trading a 1st rounder in 2025 that will be a top 10 pick.
The fact is these 2 meaningless wins have put this team in a terrible spot.
Where do you see us as being 10th right now? Tankathon has us at 6th with the 4-8 record.
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: Jclayton92 on November 26, 2023, 06:21:20 PM
Post by: Jclayton92 on November 26, 2023, 06:21:20 PM
It's amazing how much of a dude Hyatt is when even a remotely competent Qb is throwing the ball.
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: DaveBrown74 on November 26, 2023, 06:39:17 PM
Post by: DaveBrown74 on November 26, 2023, 06:39:17 PM
Quote from: Jclayton92 on November 26, 2023, 06:21:20 PMIt's amazing how much of a dude Hyatt is when even a remotely competent Qb is throwing the ball.
Yup. I think we have a stud on our hands with him, or at least a very good player. He glides like a gazelle out there and, contrary to what I have seen implied in some reports, he's not just a straight line fast guy a la John Ross. He had a very deft move today that bought him a lot of YACs. He also has legit hands.
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: AZGiantFan on November 26, 2023, 06:40:29 PM
Post by: AZGiantFan on November 26, 2023, 06:40:29 PM
Quote from: killarich on November 26, 2023, 04:56:42 PMI'm not doubting what you are saying
I agree on both points
But besides qb ... o-line is still an obvious need.... If you think you have another Andrew Thomas at pick #10 or where ever we are drafting to play RT I don't see how you can pass on him
And in the second round you have an obvious plug n play like JMS to play one of the guard spots I also don't think you pass on it
But I agree coaching is very flawed on all aspects offensively
A guy who's played 8 games with a sub-50 pff grade is hardly an obvious plug and play. I'd suggest unproven with potential would be a more accurate descriptor. It is a sign of our desperation for a ray of online hope that we try to elevate him. Plus, he couldn't stay healthy.
I wouldn't spend more than the second second rounder on an olineman. If that.
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: AZGiantFan on November 26, 2023, 06:43:51 PM
Post by: AZGiantFan on November 26, 2023, 06:43:51 PM
Quote from: GloryDays on November 26, 2023, 04:59:30 PMOur scouts or whoever has the final say on the Oline draft picks has no eye for line talent... you start right there and make the right changes.
And after you bring in someone who DOES have an eye for O-line talent you follow up by bringing in an online coach who knows how to develop them.
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: Woody on November 26, 2023, 08:35:55 PM
Post by: Woody on November 26, 2023, 08:35:55 PM
I agree with what is being said about the Diveto / Jones comparison to a point ...but let's remember who he has won games against......Washington and Pats. Not the best teams the NFL has to offer. I think that Jones and Taylor may have won these two games also... I hope he continues to due well but let's see how he does against the better teams in league before he becomes a good option to be the guy.
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Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: killarich on November 27, 2023, 07:06:58 AM
Post by: killarich on November 27, 2023, 07:06:58 AM
Quote from: AZGiantFan on November 26, 2023, 06:40:29 PMA guy who's played 8 games with a sub-50 pff grade is hardly an obvious plug and play. I'd suggest unproven with potential would be a more accurate descriptor. It is a sign of our desperation for a ray of online hope that we try to elevate him. Plus, he couldn't stay healthy.
I wouldn't spend more than the second second rounder on an olineman. If that.
I just feel like we can say the same thing literally about every position
Thomas worked out, Neal not so much
We could def strike gold in the second round.... But picking a QB in the first round is just as risky as the O-line
I just dont think we should reach.. I also dont think we should reach for a tackle.. im just trying to guess where best available/need will be at when we pick
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: londonblue on November 27, 2023, 07:40:47 AM
Post by: londonblue on November 27, 2023, 07:40:47 AM
IMO given we will likely pick 4-8 and miss out on the top 2 QBs I think our plan will be to upgrade QB2 from Taylor in free agency, continue to work on TdV, slide back slightly in R1 and focus our high picks on OL, Edge, DL to try to improve our foundation.
Neal will get a chance to back-up Thomas at LT or play G as he is lost at RT. We have to replace Leo and Azeez can only be ED3 at best given his health issues. I know QB is THE issue but we won't have the ammo to fix it unless we hit with a day 2/3 dice roll as others have.
I strongly prefer building the lines through the draft but even R1 league wide barely has a 50% hit rate and we are definitely not better than average with our high picks. I know many here may hate continuing to roll the dice on the same needs but the 2024 free agent T class is ugly as always so we simply may not have much choice...though Bobby Johnson must be fired no matter what we do.
Unless Jones has an unexpected resurgence it will be another long 2024 season but some of us always thought we were 2-3 years from competing and with hindsight last season simply hid flaws and, together with iffy drafting, pushed back the start of the rebuild.
Neal will get a chance to back-up Thomas at LT or play G as he is lost at RT. We have to replace Leo and Azeez can only be ED3 at best given his health issues. I know QB is THE issue but we won't have the ammo to fix it unless we hit with a day 2/3 dice roll as others have.
I strongly prefer building the lines through the draft but even R1 league wide barely has a 50% hit rate and we are definitely not better than average with our high picks. I know many here may hate continuing to roll the dice on the same needs but the 2024 free agent T class is ugly as always so we simply may not have much choice...though Bobby Johnson must be fired no matter what we do.
Unless Jones has an unexpected resurgence it will be another long 2024 season but some of us always thought we were 2-3 years from competing and with hindsight last season simply hid flaws and, together with iffy drafting, pushed back the start of the rebuild.
Title: Re: Giants vs Pats game thread
Post by: kingm56 on November 27, 2023, 08:01:16 AM
Post by: kingm56 on November 27, 2023, 08:01:16 AM
Quote from: AZGiantFan on November 26, 2023, 06:40:29 PMA guy who's played 8 games with a sub-50 pff grade is hardly an obvious plug and play. I'd suggest unproven with potential would be a more accurate descriptor. It is a sign of our desperation for a ray of online hope that we try to elevate him. Plus, he couldn't stay healthy.
I wouldn't spend more than the second second rounder on an olineman. If that.
To continue your thought, JMS is way too small to play G. He's struggled this year against bull rushers and moving DTs off the LOS; putting him at G would exaggerate those deficiencies. I also agree that spending a premium pick on another G/C is unwise; the Giants lack skill at the premium positions, which they must address.