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Title: This graph shows just how critical the O-line is to a team's success
Post by: MightyGiants on December 28, 2023, 08:46:04 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GCYpO2WXQAEygi7?format=jpg&name=small)
Title: Re: This graph shows just how critical the O-line is to a team's success
Post by: sooners56 on December 28, 2023, 08:56:32 AM
No debate there other than it seems, the teams with the better QBs have the better lines or is it vice versa??? 🤷🏼�♂️
Title: Re: This graph shows just how critical the O-line is to a team's success
Post by: MightyGiants on December 28, 2023, 08:59:59 AM
Quote from: sooners56 on December 28, 2023, 08:56:32 AMNo debate there other than it seems, the teams with the better QBs have the better lines or is it vice versa??? 🤷🏼�♂️

The Broncos just benched their "better QB"
Title: Re: This graph shows just how critical the O-line is to a team's success
Post by: sooners56 on December 28, 2023, 09:06:59 AM
Quote from: MightyGiants on December 28, 2023, 08:59:59 AMThe Broncos just benched their "better QB"

That benched QB has 26 TDs, only 8 picks and a 98 QB rating. I know every Giants fan would take those stats from any of our QB.

The bottom teams all have bad QB play except the Seahawks who also have 3 very capable WRs and 2 stud RBs
Title: Re: This graph shows just how critical the O-line is to a team's success
Post by: MightyGiants on December 28, 2023, 09:32:26 AM
Quote from: sooners56 on December 28, 2023, 09:06:59 AMThat benched QB has 26 TDs, only 8 picks and a 98 QB rating. I know every Giants fan would take those stats from any of our QB.

The bottom teams all have bad QB play except the Seahawks who also have 3 very capable WRs and 2 stud RBs

It's almost like a great coach like Sean Payton doesn't measure QB performance the way fans do ;)
Title: Re: This graph shows just how critical the O-line is to a team's success
Post by: H-Town G-Fan on December 28, 2023, 10:31:40 AM
Quote from: MightyGiants on December 28, 2023, 09:32:26 AMIt's almost like a great coach like Sean Payton doesn't measure QB performance the way fans do ;)

The Broncos are benching Wilson because of his contract and the injury guarantee, so I'm not sure why you're implying it's because of his performance (https://twitter.com/schultz_report/status/1740121494343045508?t=OnlDWAmKs49P1O_0oy0u-g). It is purely economics.
Title: Re: This graph shows just how critical the O-line is to a team's success
Post by: AZGiantFan on December 28, 2023, 11:05:26 AM
Seems like bullying to me. 
Title: Re: This graph shows just how critical the O-line is to a team's success
Post by: Bob In PA on December 28, 2023, 11:12:36 AM
IMO, the OL is, always has been, and always will be the most important thing on any NFL team.

I keep going back to Vince Lombardi who had only a tiny handful of plays in his playbook, mostly run plays, and he made the team practice them over and over and over again.

Even with today's rules, the success of a team is always directly related to their success running the ball. In particular (since it is the most illustrative and the team is fairly well-known even by casual fans), note how the Chiefs' relative lack of success this year (compared to other Mahomes years) in running the ball shows up in their current, fairly mundane record (then check the chart in the original post).

Bob
Title: Re: This graph shows just how critical the O-line is to a team's success
Post by: TDToomer on December 28, 2023, 01:36:38 PM
Quote from: AZGiantFan on December 28, 2023, 11:05:26 AMSeems like bullying to me. 

Seems like business to me.
Title: Re: This graph shows just how critical the O-line is to a team's success
Post by: uconnjack8 on December 28, 2023, 02:01:52 PM
Not sure why I am surprised, but I thought the run blocking would be better than the pass blocking the league as a whole.  Seems like pass blocking is the better of the two.
Title: Re: This graph shows just how critical the O-line is to a team's success
Post by: MightyGiants on December 30, 2023, 08:37:03 AM
https://x.com/LRiddickESPN/status/1740791406904438854?s=20
Title: Re: This graph shows just how critical the O-line is to a team's success
Post by: Philosophers on December 30, 2023, 11:35:05 AM
For the older folks here, do you remember when Ken Stabler was QB of the Raiders?  Do you remember how he would drop back 7 steps then his feet would not move as he'd be so comfortable in the pocket knowing he would not get pressure, he'd throw perfect passes to his WRs like Cliff Branch all over the field?  He looked like the most a curate QB ever.

He leaves the Raiders for his final approximate 2 years to play for a team without that great Raiders OL and looked horrible.

Same QB arm, brain, play processing, etc but much different OLs and much different results.

QBs don't block for themselves.  They need others to bring out their greatness.