Super Bowl Sunday...there was a time that no matter who was playing, I was glued to the television for the "up to two and a half" hours of pre-game coverage.
The type of coverage that was either about X's & O's, feel good stories about the participating coaches and players, or the city hosting the game.
When the game started it was PURE FOOTBALL..no skirts on Quarterbacks, no quick whistles, no selective replay, and no side shows.
Has the NFL under Roger Goodell and his marketing machine finally jumped the shark?
I tuned in to my NFL app about 25 minutes ago only to hear Rich Eisen say "we'll be back with our 6TH HOUR of coverage" REALLY?!! The game starts at 6:30pm...at 2pm they're starting their 6th which means by kick-off pre game will have been 10.5 hours of coverage. WHY?!
For that matter, why have we gone from looking forward to Sunday afternoons, with the occasional Holiday schedule of Thanksgiving Thursdays, Monday nights, and a Saturday schedule post CFB and into the playoffs...on network TV and select cable channels....to all of the above PLUS Sunday nights, double headers on Monday nights, and Thursday nights...adding streaming services to join in the cash raking?!!!
Is nothing sacred, Roger?!! Doesnt the league,and you have enough $$$$?!!
Make no mistake, I LOVE THE NFL. I was born in the same place (Canton, OH) as the NFL...it's been in my blood since I'm 8 years old!! I moved to NYC in part because the team that I've loved since that age and followed in the newspaper...yes the newspaper since there was no ESPN or MSG in 1970. I bleed Giants BLUE and that will never change.
But if I'm being honest, the league has lost its edge, its true excitement...the thing that made it popular...its PURITY. The NFL used to be all about football.
Today's NFL? It just feels like anything BUT pure football. HAS IT JUMPED THE SHARK?? For the 1st time as a fan, I wonder.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
What's up, Andrew?
Paralysis from overanalysis, you betcha!
I don't even watch it anymore. Even as far back as the last Giants' Super Bowl, I've stopped watching all of that because it's mostly hot air and, frankly, who cares at this point? Put the game on and let's go!
Back when we were much younger, I used to stay up all night and watch the ESPN marathon of NFL Films Super Bowl highlights from I to the year before the current. They actually had the marathon last weekend so I recorded them and played them back during the week. Heck, I've got these things on DVD from decades ago and why I still record them I don't really know (force of habit?).
But the whole NFL model of shoving all this information up your nose is beyond overkill and, as I've gotten older, I just leave the TV off until kickoff. Nuts to Goodell and his Corporate Sponsors!
Enjoy the game tonight!
Peace!
I'm with you! The change in the game since I started watching is crazy. Gone from a sport to almost total glitz entertainment. But, that's what the new fans want. Today will be the Taylor Swift show. The NFL will enjoy thousands and thousands of new viewers that they didn't have to spend one penny to market. Just viewing to get a glimpse of Swift. Occasionally, we may get a glimpse of football. There will be sooooo many shots of Swift you'll think you're at a concert.
Rich Eisen works for the NFL network who cover the NFL 24 hours a day. What do you expect them to show 6 hours before the biggest game of the year? Horseback riding?
The CBS special on the NFL today from 75-90 was cool to watch.
Quote from: TDToomer on February 11, 2024, 04:21:48 PMRich Eisen works for the NFL network who cover the NFL 24 hours a day. What do you expect them to show 6 hours before the biggest game of the year? Horseback riding?
The CBS special on the NFL today from 75-90 was cool to watch.
As usual you cherry pick my points to undermine my overall point.
But the answer to what would I expect: How about prior SB seasons up until say 3 hours before kick off. You know FOOTBALL programming.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
Has the NFL jumped the shark? I would say definitely not, given all signs indicate that this game is highly likely to be the most viewed Super Bowl of all time. I have read that might even challenge the 1969 Apollo Moon Landing at 150mm for most watched television event of all time. Number two was last year's Super Bowl at 115mm.
To me, a true jumping of the shark means the majority of people lose interest, not just a small contingent of people. Clearly the NFL has never been bigger than it is right now, and it only seems to be expanding further at a breakneck pace.
I think on one level, yes, the shark has been jumped.
But I guess as long as there is a sports fan on the planet ain't invested some of their personal disposable in the game, there's still potential for growth.
This year it's the Swifties.....next year, who knows?
I just wish the Superbowl was on Saturday
Quote from: brownelvis54 on February 11, 2024, 05:36:15 PMI just wish the Superbowl was on Saturday
LOL why? It's called Super Bowl Sunday.
Sorry but what does "jump the shark" mean?
Quote from: Philosophers on February 11, 2024, 08:37:09 PMSorry but what does "jump the shark" mean?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jumping_the_shark (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jumping_the_shark)
Quote from: TDToomer on February 11, 2024, 08:39:40 PMhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jumping_the_shark (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jumping_the_shark)
Thanks. Never heard of it.
Quote from: Philosophers on February 11, 2024, 08:43:15 PMThanks. Never heard of it.
The whole irony of its origins is that Happy Days was still the #1 show on TV after that episode and lasted another 4-5 seasons. If there is one TV show where there is much debate about when it Jumped The Shark it seems to be Dexter.
If I read Andrew correctly, I think he was more referring to the overexposure of football, rather than the pure game itself. I also used to watch a lot of the pre-game hype, not only for SB Sunday but even during the regular season. I haven't watched a pre-game show in maybe 5 years now. I hate all those talking heads pretending to know football when they are really entertainers. Even our own Michael Strahan has moved on. The only person I would like to listen to would be Coach Cowher but in order to hear him I would have to listen to 6 others, and that is now a no-no.
As far as Jumping the Shark, the NFL is so far from that it really isn't worth discussing. Yes, it is over-saturated but the ratings are still solid and with that young lady who the camera can't resist showing, more and more younger fans will take over watching.
We here, I would consider us 'hardcore' fans and reject all the silliness that young lady brings. Will her fans who now will watch, really get the game of football, or just be fair-weather fans? We hardcore fans reject all the nonsense and just want the game, even if we have to watch in silence, but we are now the minority, so watch we will and hopefully enjoy the product.
Lenn you make some great points.
My reference to "jumping the shark" was as it appeals to us dinosaurs who are pure football junkies.
The appeal to the masses is fine for the financial gain of the league, but the way they attract IMHO does very little to motivate we hard core fans...in that respect I feel like they've jumped the shark.
My love for the league is nowhere near what it was from age 10 even into my 40's. My love for the sport is as strong as ever in my early 60's but the league just doesn't seem to care about that.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
As I said in another post, the game itself has become secondary now, taking a backseat to the glitz and the hoopla.
It wasn't easy but I managed to avoid watching all but the 20 minutes or so of actual football through the magic of remote electronics or electronic remoteness if you prefer. As for how, that is my secret.
Cheers!
Quote from: jimc on February 11, 2024, 03:34:05 PMI'm with you! The change in the game since I started watching is crazy. Gone from a sport to almost total glitz entertainment. But, that's what the new fans want. Today will be the Taylor Swift show. The NFL will enjoy thousands and thousands of new viewers that they didn't have to spend one penny to market. Just viewing to get a glimpse of Swift. Occasionally, we may get a glimpse of football. There will be sooooo many shots of Swift you'll think you're at a concert.
exaggerate much?
They are milking the popularity at the expense of the popularity.
To gain new audiences, they risk losing the regular football fan that watches regular season games.
They also have got into social and racial preaching, which I suspect turns off many fans.
Pretty funny thread.
I have not seen the ratings for the U.S., but Canada, UK and Australia are all reporting higher numbers than last year and in some cases, records.
Many believe this Super Bowl will set a record in the U.S. with viewership over 126 million.
Quote from: GloryDays on February 12, 2024, 07:23:03 PMThey are milking the popularity at the expense of the popularity.
To gain new audiences, they risk losing the regular football fan that watches regular season games.
They also have got into social and racial preaching, which I suspect turns off many fans.
Yeah. The racist fans!
Quote from: uconnjack8 on February 12, 2024, 09:16:28 PMPretty funny thread.
I have not seen the ratings for the U.S., but Canada, UK and Australia are all reporting higher numbers than last year and in some cases, records.
Many believe this Super Bowl will set a record in the U.S. with viewership over 126 million.
At least half of these record setting superbowl viewers do not know much about football, do not have a team and do not watch regular season games. So yes, NFL under Goodell does a good job watering down the real action of the game and creates interest for shallow fans like Swifties for one game!!
Quote from: GloryDays on February 12, 2024, 09:51:04 PMAt least half of these record setting superbowl viewers do not know much about football, do not have a team and do not watch regular season games. So yes, NFL under Goodell does a good job watering down the real action of the game and creates interest for shallow fans like Swifties for one game!!
Yeah, I doubt the NFL gives a sh!t whether the people watching know anything about the game. All they care about is more people watching so they can make more money. Surprised capitalism seems to upset some fans.
Quote from: uconnjack8 on February 12, 2024, 10:04:09 PMYeah, I doubt the NFL gives a sh!t whether the people watching know anything about the game. All they care about is more people watching so they can make more money. Surprised capitalism seems to upset some fans.
You could say the same thing about Swift. People are so triggered.
Quote from: coggs on February 12, 2024, 06:48:08 PMexaggerate much?
I take it you enjoyed the extravaganza?
Quote from: Painter on February 12, 2024, 05:00:26 PMIt wasn't easy but I managed to avoid watching all but the 20 minutes or so of actual football through the magic of remote electronics or electronic remoteness if you prefer. As for how, that is my secret.
Cheers!
That's the way to do it! If it weren't for DVR, or it's streaming substitute, I wouldn't watch.
I do think we've reached "peak football". There is a declining base of parents who want their kids to play contact football. Historically, the fan base of any sport usually is dominated by people who've played that sport. The NFL is an institution, however, and it will be decades before it is eclipsed by something else.
Given that my time was wasted for this past season, effectively, when our LT was not available for most of the first half of the season, I have to ask why in the world did I misinvest so much time following this team? The injuries are ruining the fan experience. At least the one that I enjoy. I guess it doesn't matter much to fantasy footballers if one particular team loses its best players due to injuries.
As far as jumping the shark, I thought the league must jumped the shark when the announcers were more interested in Emmitt Smith Dancing With the Stars than with the game they were announcing.
As I get older I'm getting more interested in doing sports than watching sports. But that's bucking the trend of our nation of couch potato spectators.
Quote from: bldevil on February 12, 2024, 11:58:43 PMI do think we've reached "peak football". There is a declining base of parents who want their kids to play contact football. Historically, the fan base of any sport usually is dominated by people who've played that sport. The NFL is an institution, however, and it will be decades before it is eclipsed by something else.
Given that my time was wasted for this past season, effectively, when our LT was not available for most of the first half of the season, I have to ask why in the world did I misinvest so much time following this team? The injuries are ruining the fan experience. At least the one that I enjoy. I guess it doesn't matter much to fantasy footballers if one particular team loses its best players due to injuries.
As far as jumping the shark, I thought the league must jumped the shark when the announcers were more interested in Emmitt Smith Dancing With the Stars than with the game they were announcing.
As I get older I'm getting more interested in doing sports than watching sports. But that's bucking the trend of our nation of couch potato spectators.
Why does is matter what game show an NFL announcer does during the offseason? It has nothing to do with the league. They are choosing to do it. Besides Emmitt is a way better dancer than an studio analyst which he no longer does. In fact his analyst career may not have even overlapped with DWTS!
Just so many Curmudgeons this thread. It really brings this board down. :boooo:
Quote from: uconnjack8 on February 12, 2024, 09:16:28 PMPretty funny thread.
I have not seen the ratings for the U.S., but Canada, UK and Australia are all reporting higher numbers than last year and in some cases, records.
Many believe this Super Bowl will set a record in the U.S. with viewership over 126 million.
The last number I saw was 202 million across all viewing platforms.
Quote from: T200 on February 13, 2024, 08:35:53 AMThe last number I saw was 202 million across all viewing platforms.
Just saw this. Guess they are not losing popularity yet.