Big Blue Huddle

Looking at PFF it is clear that there are 3 WRs that are WR1s. Yes, this seems to be a deep draft at the WR position, but that doesn't mean the rest of the group is at the level of the top 3. We have nothing that scares defensive coaches in the NFL as of now. If we were to take a top WR and assuming Harrison Jr is gone, who would you prefer the Giants select with the 6th pick?


According to PFF

2. WR MALIK NABERS, LSU
PFF BIG BOARD RANK: 4
Nabers' movement skills are rare, even at the NFL level. His ability to change direction yet continue to accelerate makes him an open-target specialist in the slot and on the outside. He has the kind of athleticism that demands a defense to know where he is at all times as a future WR1.



3. WR ROME ODUNZE, WASHINGTON
PFF BIG BOARD RANK: 6
In an offense filled with future NFL players at the skill positions, Odunze was the best of the bunch. If he weren't in a class with Marvin Harrison Jr. and Malik Nabers, we would be talking about him as an easy WR1 and a player worthy of a top-10 pick, although the latter is still true for 2024.



So, on the big board, both men are 4th and 6th in the entire draft. I myself like Rome Odunze for his size,6'3" and 212lbs his forty time 4.45 and his ALL SCOUTS average is 9.4


I like Malik Nabers for his explosive YAC ability. He is 6' even and 200lbs and his forty time is 4.0 and his ALL SCOUTS average is 7.2 and that makes me wonder why the majority of all scouts combined seem to like Rome Odunze more?


For me I vote Malik Nabers


https://www.pff.com/news/draft-2024-nfl-draft-position-rankings-wide-receivers

Nabers.

If we take either of these players, it means we're not drafting a QB (at least not with our first pick), which means we're going with Jones again, at least for the time being.

Jones' biggest supporters, when listing reasons why he has continued to be so glaringly unproductive on the field, have often claimed he never has anyone open. I know there has been a growing recent movement here to portray Nabers as some sort of arch-criminal despite no convincing evidence of that, but one thing I know about him for sure is that he can separate at an elite level. If anyone can get open enough for Jones to see him and throw it to him, it's this guy. So he probably makes more sense than Odunze, who is fast but more of a physical, 50/50 ball, back shoulder type guy. We have already tried these types with Jones (Golladay, Waller), and it hasn't worked out. He seems to need guys to be wide open with nobody near them. I think Nabers probably has the best chance of fitting that sort of profile.

All i know is Rome played against Jaylon Johnson, Christian Gonzalez,Jack Jones and lined up against trent Mcduffie in college practices and played against all-pros in college

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I think this has been a thread twice already and I'm all in on Odunze, he's my number 1 Wr for this whole class.

https://sports.yahoo.com/rome-odunze-put-on-a-show-at-nfl-combine-then-did-something-rarely-ever-seen-043036778.html

This is why you draft Odunze, that coupled with the on field talent.

Yes. 

Quote from: Jclayton92 on March 31, 2024, 03:04:07 PMhttps://sports.yahoo.com/rome-odunze-put-on-a-show-at-nfl-combine-then-did-something-rarely-ever-seen-043036778.html

This is why you draft Odunze, that coupled with the on field talent.



Yes. This kind of character wins it all

So much is being made of these three receivers. Quite frankly, I won't be surprised if all three are excellent NFL receivers. My guess is any one of these three guys would be the best receiver in the draft in most seasons. You kind of can't go wrong. To me, the more interesting question is what receivers do you key on if you don't take one in the first round.

Quote from: DaveBrown74 on March 31, 2024, 05:00:30 PMSo much is being made of these three receivers. Quite frankly, I won't be surprised if all three are excellent NFL receivers. My guess is any one of these three guys would be the best receiver in the draft in most seasons. You kind of can't go wrong. To me, the more interesting question is what receivers do you key on if you don't take one in the first round.

Not sure who runs the best routes after the three.  Biggest/fastest/best routes

Quote from: DaveBrown74 on March 31, 2024, 05:00:30 PMSo much is being made of these three receivers. Quite frankly, I won't be surprised if all three are excellent NFL receivers. My guess is any one of these three guys would be the best receiver in the draft in most seasons. You kind of can't go wrong. To me, the more interesting question is what receivers do you key on if you don't take one in the first round.

Dave, we could go down that road on another thread. The original question was as clear as day.

If the Giants were to take a top three wide receiver in Marvin Harrison, Junior was gone which one would you take?

Quote from: brownelvis54 on March 31, 2024, 06:23:15 PMThe original question was as clear as day.

So was my answer to it.

This is a very tough question.   Do I swing for the fences with Nabers, who has all the ability to be a top 3-5 WR in the league, or do I go with the slightly less talented but far safer (high character and ideal fit) in Odunze?   It's really up to the Giants' ability to vet player character properly.  After they passed on Parson and drafted Toney and Baker and re-signed OJB, I don't exactly feel comfortable with the Giants and their ability to accurately assess character.

Quote from: MightyGiants on April 01, 2024, 09:15:09 AMThis is a very tough question.   Do I swing for the fences with Nabers, who has all the ability to be a top 3-5 WR in the league, or do I go with the slightly less talented but far safer (high character and ideal fit) in Odunze?   It's really up to the Giants' ability to vet player character properly.  After they passed on Parson and drafted Toney and Baker and re-signed OJB, I don't exactly feel comfortable with the Giants and their ability to accurately assess character.

Different people doing the assessment

I'd be happy with Odunze. Unhappy that QB hell continues indefinitely.

I like the way UKGiantsFan (Ceri Dovey) put it: "Odunze. He offers several attributes our other WR's just don't. But Nabers isn't exactly a consolation prize..."

As so often happens, I see it that same way.

Cheers!

I read Cosell's report on both and learned a lot.  Nabers lined up inside and outside however in 2023, most of his actual production came from the slot even though usage was 50-50 in slot versus outside.  That is telling to me.  For the Giants, I prefer the opposite where a WR has more production outside.  We have Robinson for the slot.

I am strongly of the belief that if I make a selection in the poll then 1) the Giants will go opposite IF both are still on the board or 2) the Giants will take who I want and the player will bust.  So, not making a selection or even thinking about it.

The Giants have plenty of slot/Z receivers. No question that Nabors has explosive YAC ability but I doubt the Giants would invest in yet another slot guy. Harrison and Odunze are classic X guys and with Slayton the only true X on the team, I think they will opt for that type.


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Quote from: DaveBrown74 on March 31, 2024, 02:05:13 PMNabers.

If we take either of these players, it means we're not drafting a QB (at least not with our first pick), which means we're going with Jones again, at least for the time being.

Jones' biggest supporters, when listing reasons why he has continued to be so glaringly unproductive on the field, have often claimed he never has anyone open. I know there has been a growing recent movement here to portray Nabers as some sort of arch-criminal despite no convincing evidence of that, but one thing I know about him for sure is that he can separate at an elite level. If anyone can get open enough for Jones to see him and throw it to him, it's this guy. So he probably makes more sense than Odunze, who is fast but more of a physical, 50/50 ball, back shoulder type guy. We have already tried these types with Jones (Golladay, Waller), and it hasn't worked out. He seems to need guys to be wide open with nobody near them. I think Nabers probably has the best chance of fitting that sort of profile.

In three days we will find out who the Giants pick, I hope it is a WR, and its Nabers

I picked Odunze, but that's just fancrap. I want a breakout type of WR, but I recognize my own inadequacies as a prospect analyst. I am putting my full faith in Schoen on this one. However, it probably won't make a difference, because I suspect only one of the top 3 will still be available on Thursday night anyway. I'm so bad at judging WRs that I was disgusted with our pick of OBJ..  :doh:

I think all three of the top WRs are special in their own way. Whoever we get, I hope he has a great mental connection with DJ. I don't buy the rumor that Nabers has character issues, but if there's even a hint of truth to it, I ended up voting for Odunze. If my prayers are answered, we'll have Harrison fall in our laps. Time will tell

I just picked Nabers.  I have leaned strongly for Odunze, but I think Nabers is kore explosive and athletic.  Think we need that.

I saw O'hara say that if Odunze is still there at #6, he doesn't see the Giants passing on him

From a size standpoint..big time effort..aware..I prefer him. Makes huge contested catches...runs great routes..Nabers is special too..but I think Rome is a better fit.

Listening to Chicago WSCR.they are praying for Odunze..he's their future wr star and Caleb's go to. But there's no way the Bears are trading up to jump the Jints.

all the mocks are saying nabers. who i think would be a great pick. for some reason i just see odunze becoming a more dominant receiver. especially on a team like ours. i could see nabers absolutly destroying it with a qb/offense like drew brees used to run. we are nothing close to that. we were always better with jump/contested balls, and thats what odunze does best. hes got amazing hands, body control, and leaping ability. if you have a qb that isnt dropping dimes, a guy like odunze is your best friend.

Quote from: Jclayton92 on March 31, 2024, 03:04:07 PMhttps://sports.yahoo.com/rome-odunze-put-on-a-show-at-nfl-combine-then-did-something-rarely-ever-seen-043036778.html

This is why you draft Odunze, that coupled with the on field talent.

Work ethic. pride. a guy that was lock top 10 pick and didnt have to do anything to prove it, went out there and absolutely busted his butt to do better for HIMSELF.

Quote from: brownelvis54 on April 22, 2024, 02:14:07 PMIn three days we will find out who the Giants pick, I hope it is a WR, and its Nabers

If we don't somehow get a QB the front office is very high on, Nabers is definitely still who I want as well.

With that said I think all three of the top receivers will be pro bowl caliber if not all pro caliber.

Quote from: DaveBrown74 on April 22, 2024, 05:31:45 PMIf we don't somehow get a QB the front office is very high on, Nabers is definitely still who I want as well.

With that said I think all three of the top receivers will be pro bowl caliber if not all pro caliber.

I think Odunze is a taller, faster Aj brown with better hands.

Quote from: Jclayton92 on April 22, 2024, 06:14:07 PMI think Odunze is a taller, faster Aj brown with better hands.

I like him a lot too. My main reason for preferring Nabers though is that if either of these players ends up on our team, it means we did not take a QB and therefore could be looking at building the offense's future around Daniel Jones.

One thing we have heard a lot in recent years from Jones' biggest supporters after sacks, incompletions, or 3 yard check-downs on 3rd and 11 is that "nobody was open." It seems clear therefore that Jones needs a receiver who gets the best separation in this class and gets as close to wide open as possible as often as possible. To me, that's Nabers. I'm not saying Odunze can't separate, but everything I have read and seen on tape suggests Nabers (besides possibly MHJ) is the best at this in this class. Therefore we might as well get the guy who best matches up to Jones' skill set.

In any event, I think there is a very good chance we won't end up with a choice between these two, if we're taking one of them at all. It's possible, but I tend to doubt it. So much of this dialogue might end up being completely moot.

Quote from: todge on April 02, 2024, 01:39:17 PMThe Giants have plenty of slot/Z receivers. No question that Nabors has explosive YAC ability but I doubt the Giants would invest in yet another slot guy. Harrison and Odunze are classic X guys and with Slayton the only true X on the team, I think they will opt for that type.


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That is my million dollar question about Nabers.  Is he a true X?  OBJ played X as a 5'11" guy