Big Blue Huddle

One thing that never ceases to amaze me is how differently teams evaluate prospects compared to talking heads.  Maybe its that talking heads are evaluating in vacuum not with a system or role in mind, compared to teams that really need to consider those types of things. 

Until the Falcons I thought the draft was pretty much in line with popular opinion.  The second half of the 1st seemed like teams had players rated very differently than media.

Quote from: killarich on April 26, 2024, 10:00:36 AMThink anyone would give a second rounder for Slayton ? lol

I like the dude but I want the team to get a beefy DT and Corner

I don't think a 2nd rounder is on the table, especially for this year's draft. There is still several good WRs available and if teams like the Bills that are WR needy pass or miss out (they pick first today) then I could see a trade happening.  At best I think a 3rd or 4th for next years draft could happen.

I think the most likely scenario is a post draft trade which is why I think a 2025 pick is most likely. 

Even if you don't think DJ is the guy, I don't see why drafting a worthy WR at 6 is something to fret over. 

I get people want a different QB.  Truly elite QBs are rare, so if we assume the Giants upgrade DJ with a QB who is not in that category, they will need top tier talent around him. 

Quote from: kingm56 on April 26, 2024, 08:45:48 AMI've been trying to reconcile this move too, Matt.  Here's the best I could do:

1.   They want an insurance policy for a 35 year old QB coming off an ACL injury
2.   If  Penix showcases some skills, his potential trade value could be worth more than '' pick; thus, representing a positive ROI.

Matt,

The only thing I could think of to rationalize the pick is that Cousins is 36 and not a long-term solution and now they potentially have that solution when Cousins is gone.  Just seems odd to me for a team to be thinking about 2026 and beyond when they have not had a winning record or playoff appearance since 2017.

Signing a 36 year old QB to that kind of guaranteed money after an Achilles injury is questionable, but was understandable given their situation.  Taking their future QB the same year is nothing short of bizarre IMO. 

If they are worried about Cousins injury to start the season, signing a high end backup seems more reasonable than drafting another QB at #10.

Quote from: spiderblue43 on April 26, 2024, 08:34:08 AMThat's what Blank was probably saying too last night. Can't defend that move on any level. Mind boggling. Why bother to sign Cousins (and tamper)? Trade down..add picks and still get Penix mid-round. Or simply add a quality player.

Its one of the most bizarre picks I can remember. They have made a lot of moves to improve their offense over the last several years.  They had every defensive player in the draft still available and chose a QB. 

Quote from: Rosehill Jimmy on April 26, 2024, 08:18:17 AMThe only possible explanation would be if the Cousins rehab is not coming along as expected. Otherwise, a real head scratcher 

I see your point, but then why the hell would you give that guy $100 million guaranteed? 

Rich,

I was surprised by some of the reaction here.  I wanted Odunze but think very highly Nabers ability, just hope the attitude stuff is overblown. 

I think Nabers along with a better OL will cause a significant improvement in the passing game.  Not sure I see top 10 though.

Outside of the Penix pick I dont know if I see any really crazy selections.  There are some that were a little surprising to see in the 1st round, but even those picks I thought made sense and they were guys that I thought would go in round 2.

Guess they didnt have McCarthy or the other QBs left rated as high as the media or some fans. 

I think some of it depends how much Hyatt shows. 

Slayton has had one of the best yards/rec in the NFL every year while playing for one of the worst passing offenses.   There is always targets available for those types.

Is the deepest before a defensive player is picked?

If they don't trade Penix, that is one of the strangest picks I can remember.

Kris Jenkins and Jared Wiley

Quote from: Jclayton92 on April 25, 2024, 04:16:51 PMThen there are guys like Tyler Baron who's started for ED for Tennessee who entered the portal to get a bag, and committed and enrolled at Ole Miss in January then backed out at the final moment and went to Louisville. Now two months later he's back in the portal and headed back to Ole Miss for some reason and he'll likely be a 3rd round pick next year with question marks.

I am sure there are guys who use it for the wrong reasons.  Just don't think that every transfer means the guy has a character issue.