Big Blue Huddle

Quote from: Jaime on March 08, 2017, 08:15:30 PM
QB Watson - I don't believe he's got the football IQ to excel at the next level.

DT McDowell - thinking we're overdrafting a bit with him at number 23 overall.

LB Reddick - not sold on the hype, a bit of a workout Warrior. We have bigger needs.

TE Howard - right in our wheelhouse. Proven Player, mis-match nitemare. Strong position of  need.

RB McCaffery - Frank Gifford Lite. At 197 lbs. Don't think heither is  built for the long haul.

OT Bolles - 2nd Rd. Talent that's getting kicked up the food chain because of a shallow OL pool.

OT Ramczyk - small body of work. Babywhales has dah Skinney on this Prospect.

My two cents...

I mostly agree with this with only a couple of slight changes (just my opinions)

I think you are right about Watson. Very talented athlete, but question his ability to become a cerebral QB instead of an athletic QB....and the cerebral part is what separates the men from the boys in the long haul. I'd take Davis Webb over Watson who I believe has the highest upside of all the QB's, but will need a couple years of NFL mentoring and physical development.

I also think McCaffrey is also right in our wheel house the way OJ Howard is, but do not see his weight as a problem. He would be a dangerous weapon to add to our arsenal and personally, I think he'd become Eli's go-to guy the way Romo always went to Witten when he absolutely needed to move the ball downfield. Witten made Romo in my ever so humble opinion, as he bailed him out over and over and over.

I also think Bolles is 1st round material. I'm just not sold that we should burn our no.1 on an offensive lineman that probably won't be NFL ready for a couple years. I would like the pick to go to a player that will be used extensively from day 1. It's exceedingly rare for an offensive lineman to come out of college and be able to take the next step into the NFL without a ton of work first. The trenches are filled with real men, not just athletes who are used to using their quickness and size advantage during college to over match an opponent. In the trenches, there are almost no over matches....(see Flowers)

Assuming all of those guys were available at 23, I'd be hard pressed to choose between OJ Howard and McCaffrey with maybe a slight edge to McCaffrey. I don't think OJ will make it past 15 or 16 on day one, but stranger things have happened on draft day

I agree 100%. TE's should be at least 6'5", preferably in the 6'6"-6'7" range with a big bone build carrying 255 lbs or more without any fat.

Engram (6'3 1/4" - 234 lbs - 4.42:40yd with a 36" vertical) would be a steal if he was drafted strictly as a WR and would create nightmares for the defense in the red zone. He has the speed / height combo to make mismatches on the outside and can also be a massive target coming across the slot. He's never going to be big enough to be a good blocker so I don't know why he is even listed as a TE.

I'm no expert, but I'd take Howard over Njoku in a heartbeat. Howard is bigger, stronger, faster and comes from a program where winning is an attitude, not just a stat.

Regardless, it's a moot point as he is not going to be available at 23 unless the "gods of football" is looking down and is a Giants' fan.

Evan Ingram seems like an ideal WR - 6'3", run's a 4.42, and has good hands. Too small to be a steady blocker (IMHO) and a bit short for a lumbering TE. Could be the tall WR we've wanted (or at least I've wanted) ever since we lost Plaxico to a self-inflicted gunshot wound...idiot!

I am only starting to get hyped up for the draft which is unusual because usually by this time of the year, I'm up to my ears in researching recruits and chomping at the bit for the draft to get here.

My early intuition has me desiring an offensive weapon. Of all the stuff I've read, and watching the athletes at the combine, there are only two players that have me thinking they are serious offensive game changers: TE - OJ Howard and RB - Christian McCaffrey

I suspect that Howard will be off the board by 23, but I think McCaffrey will still be there if we want. Because of the top heavy number of round 1 grade edge rushers and corner backs in this draft, combined with teams in desperate need of both - it's possible Howard slips to 23, but I have my doubts. Also, because there are so many excellent TE's in this draft class, I believe many teams will settle for a solid TE later in the draft as they will be there on the board like Adam Shaheen,  Bucky Hodges, Jake Butt, etc.

Njoku is intriguing, but not sure if he's the real game changer that I think would take the Giants into the next level of offensive play. I have him graded as a late 1st / early 2nd round grade, whereas I have Howard and McCaffrey graded as being in the top half of a round 1 grade (not that I'm some kind of expert or anything).

So give me Howard or McCaffrey....please! McCaffrey is so good at catching balls that we would have no need for Vereen (save some cap space here) and it would be sweet to have a feature back that can play like a short yardage RB or slot TE while having Perkins as a scat back coming that keeps the opposition off balance. It's been a long time since the Giants had a favorable ground game and McCaffrey would give that to us. And on top of that, practically every mock draft I've read has McCaffrey falling into the lap of the *%^!*& Patriots - as if they need another offensive juggernaut!

Personally, if both Howard and McCaffrey were still on the board at 23, I think I would have to go with McCaffrey. That's how much I think of him as a game changer for the the Giants' offense. For what it's worth, that is my 2 centavos 

I do not feel as if I deserve to win (or tie for the win) as I lost interest after Nyquist couldn't handle the mud in the Preakness and then was pulled from the Belmont. Regardless, I enjoyed playing along for the first two legs. Thanks for going through the trouble of setting it up so the rest of us could have some fun on the side.

My picks for today's Preakness

1) Nyquist
2) Exaggerator
3) Abiding Star

Quote from: Vette on May 08, 2016, 08:51:59 AM
So here is the Breakdown for this First Leg of the Triple Crown. Congratulations to Chris (BabyWhales) who called the Win and Place Horses in Order!

Whales= 50+30-20= 60
Cid= 30+20= 50
Jolly= 30+20= 50
4Ever= -30+20= -10
Terry= -30+20= -10
Vette= -30+20= -10
Todge= -30+ -20= -50

Hang in there you players in the negative column. A good showing in the Preakness can put you right in this again.

I accidentally listed my horses in backward order. I submitted Gun Runner, Exaggerator, and Nyquist in that order and meant it the other way around...lol 

My picks:

1- Win: Gun Runner
2- Place: Exaggerator
3- Show: Nyquist
 

I'm a newbie and I've read several pages of jokes, but I haven't read all 39 pages, so maybe this one has already been told. The joke of Paddy McCoy reminded me of one. So here goes:


Paddy had been drinking at his local Dublin pub all day and most of the night celebrating St Patrick

1)  What part of the Country do you live in?
Rural area in Upstate New York - somewhere within the triangle created by Syracuse-Ithaca-Binghamton

2)  How long have you been a Giants fan?
Since I was old enough to understand football, around the mid-late 50's

3)  What do you do for a living?
Retired Engineer - Trainer/teacher in GD&T and SPC. Still do consulting in GD&T. After traveling the world on business for 8 years, living out of hotels and airports, I left the company and started my own electro-mechanical manufacturing company subcontracting for OEM's. Closed up shop a few years ago.

4) Anything else you would like to mention about yourself?
- Divorced
- 3 adult children (had 4, but lost my oldest son from a car accident returning from skiing)
- 6 beautiful grandchildren
- I have degrees in math / statistics and engineering, a graduate of Binghamton University
- Highly opinionated, not always right and often wrong
- hobbies: skiing, fishing, golfing, genealogy, and kind of a movie buff
- I am a gun enthusiast and have a large collection of firearms, but I haven't hunted in years. I shoot paper for fun.
- Besides being a die-hard Giants fan, I also love the Syracuse Orange (my alma mater from grad school), and I'm a discouraged Yankee fan.
- Generally speaking, I am a positive person who always sees a glass half full and tend to be overly optimistic. I tend to avoid negative people for the sake of sanity.

Jolly Blue Giant