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Daniel Jones will be fine after football.

His career with the Giants is all but over. Hopefully this fiasco will serve as notice to Mara that he needs to let the football people do football things. He just needs to sign the checks.

Quote from: T200 on November 09, 2023, 12:31:21 PMDaniel Jones will be fine after football.

His career with the Giants is all but over. Hopefully this fiasco will serve as notice to Mara that he needs to let the football people do football things. He just needs to sign the checks.

Let's hope you're right. He hasn't shown any willingness to stop meddling as long as he's been in control.


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Jones will be week 1 starter next year even though they draft one on the spring.  By week 7 he will be replaced by the rookie and then off the team by the offseason.

We said when Jones was drafted, either he hits or we set the franchise back 4-5 years. We we have done just that, set the franchise back.
We draft a new QB and we start it all over again. Let's move on and try and get it right this time.

Quote from: LennG on November 10, 2023, 11:10:35 AMWe said when Jones was drafted, either he hits or we set the franchise back 4-5 years. We we have done just that, set the franchise back.
We draft a new QB and we start it all over again. Let's move on and try and get it right this time.

When the dust settles, we'll only have Dex and Thomas remaining from the DG era, despite all the top 6/10 picks.  I feel good about the current young talent, but we desperately need a QB to bring it together. We're set in the secondary and the LB look ok; with Thibs and Dex on the line, we're an edge rusher from a plus defense. We'll have picks and cap space this year; if we nail the QB, we could be competitive in 2025. 

His contract, injury history, and performance will keep him from getting traded. He'll go on IR to start the season, Tyrod Taylor (or some other cheap vet) will start but waiting in the wings will be the new rookie. The new rookie starts by week 10.  If they bring Jones back up when he's ready, I think he'll start and cut the vet. If the rookie is starting, there are going to be too many calls for Jones if there are bumps in the road.

I think the rookie starts week 1, daboll and schoen are on a clock.

Just a guessing game as to who starts and when. Let's get the Franchise QB on the team first.

Quote from: andrew_nyGiants on November 08, 2023, 02:54:17 PMWhere do you see him by next years' trading deadline? Is he movable at that point? Or is it necessary to keep him through the end of next season due to cap implications.

I remember reading that Washington wanted him bad in the draft. Is the word out across the league that he's not a starting NFL QB? Or is there a Washington out there?

A lot of sentiment that he will start opening day for us with his newly drafted successor waiting in the wings.



We've never seen DJ compete for his job at this level. Does that even make a difference at this point?

Interested in when and how this chapter ends.


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at this point, we need to at least have a serious contingency plan in place. he will 90% likely be the starter next year, even if we take a qb high in the draft. but his leash will probably be much shorter. between the injuries and his ineffective play (how much of that is his fault remains up for debate, but its the truth nonetheless), its unlikely it will just "click" in year 6. i'm not 100% convinced we will take a qb round one, passing on a guy like marvin harrison could be a huge mistake. but we cant go into next year with guys like devito, or an injury prone 35 year old journeyman like tyrod. its time jones faced some serious competition, and god forbid he gets hurt again, someone that can get in there and really make some noise. it sucks, but the clock is truly running out, and as much as i've defended him and pulled for him, he just isnt getting it done.

Quote from: babywhales on November 08, 2023, 03:21:27 PMRodgers is dropping back and throwing passes already


Get the surgery


Draft a qb

Get a new RT,  guard and start developing the line .

Next year jones is QB1 , while draft pick gets acclimated .

More importantly while line develops .

Raise jones value and trade him for anything or release him at end of 2024 season and eat 20 mill in dead cap for 2025.

Start new qb in year 2 (2025 season)

This is the most likely scenario unless he puts up a pro bowl year next year.

Quote from: Torus34 on November 09, 2023, 08:14:35 AMThe New Jersey Giants run through quarterbacks for a reason. That reason's the offensive front five. Combined, they give a good imitation of NYC subway turnstiles during rush hour.

Fix that before wasting yet another QB.

Go, Big Blue!

this is the number one reason im not all in one tanking and getting a qb #1 overall. how does it help us? i asked a question on one of the facebook groups earlier. lets say theoretically caleb had come out same year as jones. we picked caleb. EVERY other scenario over the last 5 years is exactly the same. how many more games would we have won?

and thats why i personally feel picking a qb right now that high, doesnt really help us much. too many other holes. could it be great for the future? sure. but with how much we'd have to give up to get that high most likely, we could fill a lot of other holes.

Quote from: uconnjack8 on November 10, 2023, 10:58:45 AMJones will be week 1 starter next year even though they draft one on the spring.  By week 7 he will be replaced by the rookie and then off the team by the offseason.

I'm not so sure. It's possible, but (1) Jones is not guaranteed to be ready to go by week one, and (2) if it's Williams or Maye I'm not sure they wait.

The rookie will start from day 1. I have no doubt about that

Quote from: B1GBLUE on November 10, 2023, 02:09:25 PMthis is the number one reason im not all in one tanking and getting a qb #1 overall. how does it help us? i asked a question on one of the facebook groups earlier. lets say theoretically caleb had come out same year as jones. we picked caleb. EVERY other scenario over the last 5 years is exactly the same. how many more games would we have won?

and thats why i personally feel picking a qb right now that high, doesnt really help us much. too many other holes. could it be great for the future? sure. but with how much we'd have to give up to get that high most likely, we could fill a lot of other holes.

It's funny how so many are fixated on getting one of the top 3 draft slots to get a QB when Trevor Lawrence is the only one of the top QBs in the league who were drafted top 3.

Quote from: AZGiantFan on November 10, 2023, 03:48:00 PMIt's funny how so many are fixated on getting one of the top 3 draft slots to get a QB when Trevor Lawrence is the only one of the top QBs in the league who were drafted top 3.

I guess Joe Burrow isn't a top QB.