Big Blue Huddle

I was thinking the same thing myself yesterday with Neal Young's song in my head. Unfortunately somehow this will turn into a political thread, Lenn.

Quote from: LennG on May 03, 2024, 08:36:17 PMI feel so bad for Sham. He was a great horse but against Secretariat, he just couldn't compete.

Same thing with Alydar, who came second to Affirmed is each of his Triple Crown victories.

People forget that there was a reason his (stupid) nickname was Danny Dimes after his rookie year.

Quote from: MightyGiants on May 03, 2024, 01:20:53 PMIn case anyone is interested, here are all the PFF grades (for 2023) of the Giants offensive linemen


36th of 36
John Michael Schmitz Jr.
C
# 61
41.4

Aaron Stinnie
G
# 64
56.5

Austin Schlottmann
C
# 65
62.6

Jon Runyan
G
# 76
56.5

Marcus McKethan
G
# 60
45.4

Jimmy Morrissey
G
# 67
60.1

Yodny Cajuste
T
# 70

Jalen Mayfield
T
# 62
26.1

Joshua Miles
T
# 77

Matt Nelson
T
# 68
58.0

Jermaine Eluemunor
T
# 72
68.5

Joshua Ezeudu
T
# 75
42.4

Evan Neal
T
# 73
39.8

Andrew Thomas
T
# 78
76.1

Expecting our O-Line to improve to average is putting a LOT of faith in the new O-Line coach.

Quote from: DaveBrown74 on May 03, 2024, 04:47:29 PMThere is no single one player who has more influence on the offense than the QB. The fact that they get paid much more than any single other position is not an accident. Obviously, you need a lot more than just a very good QB to win tough games in this league, but no single individual position is more important.

The QB is definitely the most important of the three legs.  And sometimes can overcome having one of the 3 legs being sub-standard.  But if both of the other 2 legs suck, as has been the case for the Giants during DJs tenure with the Giants, I don't think it matters how good the QB is.

Quote from: Trench on May 03, 2024, 11:35:41 PMSo McKinney and Saquon are only worth a single 4th round pick?....wow

You're forgetting the offsetting that occurs when the Giants signed players. Runyon effectively cancelled out Saquon with a similar AAV.

Quote from: Philosophers on May 03, 2024, 05:13:55 PMI am not surprised.  That year felt to me the NFL teams falsely manufactured prospect QB talent than was actually there.  Other than Lawrence nobody during the college football season said Wilson or Lance would be top 5 picks.

I remember Lance having a ton of buzz and it was a big deal when he actually played in one game during the Covid season. Wilson, on the other hand, had that huge season and suddenly shot up draft boards.

So McKinney and Saquon are only worth a single 4th round pick?....wow

Lance Zierlein article from NFL.com:

QuoteProjected compensatory pick: One in Round 4.

Key free-agent losses: Xavier McKinney (Packers), Saquon Barkley (Eagles), A'Shawn Robinson (Panthers), Tyrod Taylor (Jets), Ben Bredeson (Buccaneers).

Key free-agent additions: Jon Runyan Jr., Devin Singletary, Drew Lock, Jermaine Eluemunor.



McKinney should qualify the Giants for a fourth-round pick, while the other four losses are canceled out by comparable free-agent signings.

https://www.nfl.com/news/2025-nfl-draft-compensatory-pick-projections-for-every-team

Ric can relate. Growing up near Binghamton as a youth we had two daily papers. The Sun Bulletin, which was delivered in the early mornings, and The Binghamton Evening Press, which was delivered around 4pm every day. I used to like reading the Sun Bulletin's sports pages in the morning before heading off to school. But they never had the west coast baseball scores. No internet then, so I had to wait until I got home to check the late scores in the evening paper. At some point the two papers merged and became The Press & Sun Bulletin, which was delivered in the mornings. Some time around 2008(?) I canceled the paper though when our "paperboy" sued us for $50,000. I haven't subscribed to a physical paper since.