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#3
Quote from: Ed Vette on Today at 11:15:42 AMWhat did you say about conspiracy theories... "The Bastion of the Weak Minded"??

What's the theory?
#6
Quote from: SlotCorner on Today at 08:06:17 AMNot a shock after they got marketing rights and announced a draft pick from there.

We went to London in 2022 and it was one of our favorite trips. Everyone we met who wasn't American or British was German. This is going to be crazy.

We are going to try and get tickets.  Tickets for London in 2022 went on sale in late June.

Good points, especially the draft pick
#7
Quote from: Ed Vette on Today at 07:44:28 AMIt won't matter if he hasn't learned how to slide or take an Eli dive. He's apparently too rigid of a body or not athletic enough to be able to slide. One of his issues is taking off after the first read. Because he can't read the field past his first read, or hesitates and windows close. Something the apologists and pilot fish are too stubborn or obtuse to accept. Which are the same traits he exhibits.
Quote from: Ed Vette on Today at 07:34:39 AMJackson can throw the ball downfield while scrambling and running or from the pocket and not get hurt to the point of losing a massive amount of time. 

Torn ACL, and several neck injuries have resulted in him not protecting himself by sliding or giving himself up. Not being available for 21 games out of 81 or 26%. All of his injuries are not from poor protection but poor judgment, stubbornness and too dumb to learn how to slide. 


I don't remember the first neck injury.   However the second one was a hit in the back because Ezeudu completely wiffed his block.  The ACL was from trying to get out of the pocket because his protection had completely broken down.   DJ actually was trying to get around his unengaged RT to escape the pressure from his left.   
#8
Quote from: Ed Vette on May 14, 2024, 07:46:46 PMHe's paid to throw the ball. Quarterback.

Tell that to MVP QB Lamar Jackson.

Seriously, it's not like officials forced the Giants to punt when DJ's legs pick up a first down.  It's not like officials tell the score keeper to remove that touchdown because DJ ran it in rather than threw it.   Yardage, first downs, and touchdowns all count the same regardless if DJ got them through the air or on the ground.
#9
Quote from: Ed Vette on May 14, 2024, 07:44:42 PMBarkley ran for 84 yards and Jones 34. Against Indy Jones passes for 177 yards. He passed for 135 and 169 yards against Philly. He passed for 300 yards three times that year and two times against Minnesota. Twelve games of 200 yards or less. So no.

How many rushing yards did Jones contribute?
#11
This one goes so far as to list Lock as one of a handful of breakout QBs


DREW LOCK, QB, NEW YORK GIANTS
It's far from assured that Drew Lock will be the starting quarterback in New York this season, just like O'Connell. However, it sure seems like the New York Giants will give him every opportunity to win the job.

Lock signed a one-year deal with the Giants for less than $5 million guaranteed. That is in line with what most NFL backups make, but it was an interesting signing by New York because Daniel Jones is recovering from a torn ACL and a neck injury. Before he tore his ACL, Jones struggled mightily during the 2023 season and took a big step backward. Going into Year 2 of his new deal, it's not a "lock" that he will open the year as the Giants' starting quarterback.

You can make a strong case that Lock is the better fit in Brian Daboll's offense, especially after the selection of WR Malik Nabers this year. Lock performed well last season for the Seattle Seahawks when called upon to start, completing nearly 69 percent of his passes for 7.45 yards per attempt. He led a winning drive against the Eagles on Monday Night Football and threw several gorgeous passes to keep Seattle alive in that contest.

Lock is only 27 and seems like a much more mature player than he was in Denver. With Jones likely to miss all OTAs, mini-camp and potentially training camp, Lock will have plenty of chances to play with the first team.

Even average quarterback play would make a difference for the Giants, and Lock could give them that this season. Seeing him play like the 2023 version of Gardner Minshew or 2022 Geno Smith wouldn't be a shock. He is a very talented quarterback with athleticism, and he lands in an offense that finally has the right weapons.

https://www.the33rdteam.com/2024-nfl-predictions-who-will-be-this-years-breakout-quarterbacks/
#12
I seriously doubt the NFL has any desire to realign.  There is a lot of history in the various NFC East matchups.   Plus, when at least 2 of the teams are good, those matchups are big draws.
#13
Big Blue Huddle / Re: NGT: Goff’s New Deal
May 14, 2024, 03:17:19 PM
Jared Goff Just Gets How To Play Quarterback
VIDEO 5/13/24

Greg Cosell examines Jared Goff's fundamental understanding of the quarterback position and why Goff is the perfect fit for Ben Johnson's offense.

https://www.the33rdteam.com/jared-goff-just-gets-how-to-play-quarterback/
#14
Quote from: Ed Vette on May 14, 2024, 12:46:19 PMThanks to the Vikings and Dolts.

Two must-win games where Jones did the opposite of choke
#15
Quote from: Ed Vette on May 14, 2024, 12:24:42 PMBy a brilliant Offensive drafted by Daboll to disguise Jones deficiencies and work to his Run Strength. Saquon, Dink, Dunk, Read option. Then at the end of the season the league figured it out and they got lucky to face the lousy Vikings Defense. How did those last eight games go again?

It seems like you refuse to give Jones any credit for the team's success, but are more than willing to blame him for the team's shortcomings.

To the last 8 games, to avoid that issue, I will look at how Jones did

From last to earliest

Opponent -- QB rating -- QBR -- PFF grade

Eagles -- 53.8 -- 11.7 -- 46.7
Vikings -- 114.1 -- 82.5 -- 80.9
Colts -- 125.2 -- 97.0 -- 81.9
Vikings -- 92.8 -- 59.1 -- 85.3
Washington -- 77.6 -- 76.8 -- 75.8
Eagles -- 96.1 -- 77.0 -- 78.0
Washington -- 104.3 -- 32.5 -- 68.4
Cowboys -- 88.8 -- 60.9   -- 50.8

So to answer your question, the team didn't do that well, but more often than not Jones played well.