Big Blue Huddle

Standing next to 6' 5" 315 pound Andrew Thomas



https://x.com/BrandonJacobs27/status/1791993081241149706

https://x.com/BigBlueVCR/status/1791997199594959103

I am going to take the optimistic view on the various Giants issues:


1)  Coaching-  Daboll has learned from his earlier mistakes, and his coaching staff adjustments will have this staff firing on all cylinders this season rather than fighting among themselves

2)  The offensive line-  Between the infusion of veteran talent (who knows what it takes to play O-line in the NFL) and a new O-line coach (who never coached a unit that wasn't in PFF's top 10), this unit will finally break free of its decade-plus stretch of futility and poor play

3)  Quarterback play-  Between Daniel Jones and Drew Lock, one of them will elevate their game to provide the team with solid QB play.

4)  Injuries-  While the Giants failed to remove Ronnie Barnes, the team did bring back Aaron Wellman, who as the Strength and Conditioning coach and has proven he can reduce injury.  We can look forward to a middle-of-the-pack injury season rather than leading the league.

5)  Pass Rush-  The addition of Burns to Thibs and Dex will make the Giants pass rush something that keeps OCs up at night.

6)  Explosive plays-   The Giants lost Barkley, but frankly, he was living on reputation.   He wasn't providing the explosive plays a star provides either on the ground or through the air.  Malik Nabers will change that, and his presence will allow others like Robinson and Hyatt to join in on the fun.

So by drinking the Kool-Aid, this team will be going to the playoffs again like they did in 2022.

Quote from: Philosophers on May 18, 2024, 08:14:02 PMA good policeman can make split decisions and manage his emotions and calm things down. A bad one gives an order and beats a person up for hesitating.

I see many who support the authoritarian view that police must be obeyed without question and that's the end of the story. However, I tend to favor Joe's view. The police represent us as the enforcers of our laws.  They need to be in control of their emotions, and their goal should always be to de-escalate rather than make things worse. 

A minor situation like this should never result in a good man without any criminal inclination being arrested and thrown in jail.   That is not how I (as a member of society) want or believe how our laws should be enforced.


https://golf.com/news/eyewitness-reveals-new-scottie-scheffler-arrest-details/



As Scheffler pulled up to the left of ESPN's vehicle, Wischusen said he and his ESPN colleagues could not see who was at the wheel. Moments later, a police officer "kind of jumped in front" of what the ESPN crew would later learn was a Lexus driven by Scheffler. "He was pretty, you know, enthusiastic, let's say," Wischusen said of Officer Gillis. Wischusen said Gillis beamed his flashlight up and down Scheffler's car and yelled at him with words to the effect of: "Whoa, whoa, whoa, who are you? Where are you going? Get back in line. You're not allowed to come through here."

Wischusen said he couldn't hear any of what Scheffler said to Gillis but that Gillis was "scolding" Scheffler for passing the ESPN vehicle on the left. Wischusen said because the officer and his colleagues were in yellow reflective jackets, it was unclear to him and his colleagues whether they were police or tournament security.   

After Scheffler and the officer's interaction, Wischusen said Scheffler began to pull away. As Darlington described it, at this point Gillis "attached himself" to the car. As Gillis, whose body camera was not activated during the incident, described it, he was "dragged" to the ground by Scheffler's car, which led to "pain, swelling and abrasions to left wrist and knee" and damaging his pants "beyond repair."   

Here's how Wischusen recalls that moment: "When [Scheffler] drove past him, the cop got very angry pursuing the car. ... My impression was he was kind of running alongside chasing the car, and maybe he tripped and fell. I mean, there was kind of an outcropping or medium, you know, by the front gate. And keep in mind, it was raining. It was 6 o'clock in the morning. It was dark."

Asked about Darlington's characterization of the officer "attaching" himself to the car, Wischusen said, "I could see him stumble, but I did not have a very clear view of exactly how you want to categorize his contact with the car."

Wischusen said Scheffler was moving at a relatively slow speed — "the speed that you would drive a car if you were pulling up to the front gate of a place," he said — and before pulling over had driven approximately the 10 or so yards that Darlington had estimated.

When Scheffler stopped the car, Wischusen said Gillis was visibly upset. "He runs up to the driver's side, and with the butt end of his flashlight starts screaming, you know, 'Get out of the car, get out of the car' — banging on the window — 'shut the engine off, get out of the car. I'm a police officer.'"

The driver "peacefully" exited the car, Wischusen said, at which point the officer "put him up against the car and put him in handcuffs." Said Wischusen: "That was when we realized — you know, all the way up until then we're like, oh my God, whoever is in this car, there's about to be an arrest of some sort. And then it was, 'Oh my God, it's Scottie Scheffler."

https://golf.com/news/eyewitness-reveals-new-scottie-scheffler-arrest-details/

7 on 7

OFFENSE

Allows QB to practice going through progressions and throwing to receivers.  It also allows practicing of plays.

WRs practice running routes and practicing different plays.  Plus, catching the ball from the QB


DEFENSE

DBs and LBs practice various coverages as well as practice covering WRs

'Baby Bison': How SMU's Elijah Chatman's incredible strength sets him up for success
Chatman's been the strongest since he was a boy. That hasn't changed entering his senior year with the Mustangs.


Today, Chatman – known as the "Baby Bison," pronounced (BEE-ZAHN) with a French accent – is still not only the strongest at his school, but also one of the strongest college football players in the country. That seventh grader is now a senior defensive lineman for SMU. He can now bench 500 pounds. His current record for reps of 225 pounds – a day after lifting, at that – is 42. He did it to end summer workouts this year. Only 11 players in the history of the NFL Combine have done more.

But Chatman is more than his strength. He was a second-team all-conference selection last season. In the last month or so he's been named to numerous watch lists. In addition, with his immense strength, and his 6-foot size, he was named to Bruce Feldman's annual "freaks list" in college football – an honor given to college football players who can bring something unique to the table.

"He's a guy, man," said SMU defensive line coach Calvin Thibodeaux, a longtime coach at Oklahoma prior. "There's just so much power."

And with great power, comes great potential: a narrative that's always followed the Baby Bison.

MORE

https://www.dallasnews.com/sports/smu-mustangs/2022/08/20/baby-bison-how-smus-elijah-chatmans-incredible-strength-sets-him-up-for-success/

DKitt
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 .   In your opinion, given the current roster with all the new additions, what style of play do you think we have to have in order to consistently win games?  Does it come down to the usual bylines...effective run game, play action pass on offense, and bend but don't break on defense?  Your opinion would be greatly appreciated.
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https://x.com/CarlBanksGIII/status/1791880377428058121

Former GM Mike Lombardi thinks the Giants is one of them.

I looked at the over/under odds for team wins.  Here is who Vegas thinks the worst

Carolina Panthers
Denver Broncos
New England Patriots

Beyond that, it's a massive tie (6.5 wins)

Arizona Cardinals
Las Vegas Raiders
Minnesota Vikings
New York Giants
Tennessee Titans
Washington Commanders

So who are your 4 worst teams?

The evolution of the angry Giants fan:

2019

I am angry that the Giants drafted Daniel Jones with the 6th pick in the draft just to draft a QB.

2024

I am angry that the Giants DID'T draft a QB with the 6th pick just to draft a QB.


I am mindful that as HOF GM Bill Plian says, the fans and the draft pundits only know  a fraction about prospects (especially QBs) than teams do

The success rate of 1st round QBs (regardless of definition of success) is a bit less than 50/50 (bad support lowers these odds)

Also, as Carl Banks has said repeatedly, the Giants drafted Malik Naber to make the Giants a better team.  They didn't draft Nabers for Daniel Jones.

$213.99  for  a hoodie



$93.99 for a polo shirt



Even a t-shirt is $79.99




Those prices are crazy.  Worse, if it's like any other Giants merch, it's not even of the highest quality.

https://shop.giants.com/new-york-giants-100th-season/t-13725680+c-8904644163+z-96-3612772062

Quote from: Philosophers on May 18, 2024, 09:07:22 AMI dont know.  Pats drafted Michael Onwenu in like the 5th riund and he was a good starter.  Chiefs drafted Trey Smith in 5th or 6th round and he's a starter.

Giants cant produce a healthy, effective OL if their life depended on it.

Even with insufficient practice, quality O-line coaching will give a team an edge.   

Quote from: katkavage on May 18, 2024, 08:04:28 AMWorks both ways, MG. The defenders and the detractors. That is why it has remained a hot topic. Banks can call out the defenders as easily as the detractors. Both are guilty here but he chooses the latter group to call goofy.

That's the thing, Kat, you really can't.   When you tally up the posts, there are far more negative posts than positive posts.  If you really study the dynamics, much of what could be perceived as positive post about Jones are usually posts responding to criticism.   Hell, even my mini-rant was nuanced.  I didn't say it was wrong to have a negative view (which stands in stark contrast to the accusations of "making excuses").  I didn't even say that Jones will prove to be a franchise QB (which, again, stands in stark contrast to critics who claim Jones will never be a franchise QB). 

The "both sides do it" argument is just a way to defend that which really can't be defended, in my opinion.

Quote from: uconnjack8 on May 18, 2024, 07:28:33 AMStill,  the 2006 squad had 2md round pick, 3rd that was signed from another team and a 5th along with two UDGAs.  The current squad has two high #1s and a 2nd.  Is the CBA why 2 of those high picks haven't developed? Were all the other teams in the NFL able to develop UDFAs and late picks as well in 2006.

I can't answer with certainty, but I think there is a good chance the answer is yes.  You listen to any linemen or coach talk about practice and the offensive line, and they always talk about the only time it really helps is when the pads go one (which is quite rare now).   Prior to 2011, if an offensive lineman struggled, they would get extra practice (with pads) after the regular practice.   That simply isn't allowed anymore.   As I said, there is a chronic shortage of quality linemen these days.  That's because the guys don't have a chance to develop into NFL-caliber linemen.   There is only so much an offensive linemen can develop blocking against air or in padless practices.

I think the frustration that Bob and Carl expressed has more to do with how fans go overboard in their criticism of Daniel Jones, rather than their opinion of Daniel Jones.  We have seen that sort of thing here.  A post is made about the Giants having the worst offensive line, and you get posts about how people are making excuses for Daniel Jones.   People here will cherry-pick facts and spend an inordinate amount of time curating facts about other QBs just to criticize or put Daniel Jones down.  Hell, we have even seen posts mocking his facial expression or posts about bleaching one's eyes because you read DJ will be the starting QB.

I have seen game threads that were filled with "Jones' throw was poor," "Jones held on to the ball too long," and "Jones missed the open man." I have even seen Jones blamed for offensive linemen jumping early.   Then Jones throws a TD and you get crickets or a nice catch (by the receiver Jones throws to) or on occasion a begrudging "good throw" (this is the rare thing).

Jones isn't the only target.  People who don't share the strong negative views on Jones are accused of "making excuses" if they dare to consider the terrible situation Jones has dealt with since entering the NFL.   I have seen people accuse those people of undergoing mental gymnastics to defend Jones.

Someone mentioned Evan Neal.   Evan Neal, by any objective standard, has been far worse (considering his draft position) than Daniel Jones, but it's rare to see people putting the man down.  Most are still hoping he will do better, or they have given up on him, but he isn't injected into every conversation.  People are not scouring the league to find other OTs to compare Neal to so they can show how much worse Neal is in comparison.  All of that is a unique situation of Daniel Jones.

So, I can understand Carl and Bob's frustration.   It's not like either of them are saying Jones is doing great.  Neither is suggesting that Jones needs to step up his game or even that Jones is the long term answer.  It's just that the amount of time and energy and the frequency DJ's critics put into putting the man down really gets tiring.  The man's performance needs improvement, but he is still the starting QB of the team we root for.   It's sort of hollow to talk about how one "I don't dislike the guy" if all you do at every opportunity is put the man down and work tirelessly to put him in the worst light possible.

Daniel Jones is a good man who works his ass off for the team.  Even if you don't think highly of him, at least give the man the benefit of the doubt and try to be supportive.  I have always said about fan boards that no one will ever fault you for saying positive things about the team (unless that positive is directed at Daniel Jones).  When it comes to criticism, think about cooking with strong spices, a little goes a long way.