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Daniel Jones not the answer? 

QB Hell is 6-11 and the 6th pick in the draft. In all seriousness, it is a tough schedule but if DJ can stay healthy, they might get closer to .+500.  This Oline might be the best they put out in the last 10 years. I know I said that before and then injuries and retirements. I like the Receivers and they will be the best DJ has had and the Giants have had since 2011. If DJ can show he can be the man, this team will be one year away from being a playoff contender.

FWIW, I don't like it either.

At least 8 is featured.

https://www.giants.com/news/giants-unveil-century-red-100th-season-commemorative-uniform

Quote from: Painter on May 16, 2024, 11:08:56 AMGiven what we saw of his play last season, which was a breath of fresh air in a dyspnea of a Defense, I can't but think of him as a good fit. I quite clearly recall that even as rookie, he was one of the few Giants Defenders who seemed engaged and effective in those otherwise early debacles against the Cows and Niners.

Moreover, as he has previously been rated as an above average Pass Defender from the LB position, there is all the more reason to feel positive about his "fit" in Bowen's scheme. Quite frankly, as I saw it, the only thing that kept McFadden from greater appreciation was the excellent performance of Okereke in Wink's otherwise shitty Defense as it was even well before the Williams trade.

Cheers!

I thought his forte was Run and Dog, not coverage. I'll defer to you instead of my memory snapshots. 

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Quote from: LennG on May 15, 2024, 07:32:35 PMWhen I started this thread it was about the OL and, as usual, it has ended up being a referendum on Daniel Jones, like most other threads.

If anyone cares, what about our 'new and impr oved' OL? Is PFF right and do we still have the worst OL in the league or have we made some significant improvements to make it, at least, average?

I answered your question. Maybe it wasn't loud enough. It's stupid to evaluate an Offensive Line with two new veteran starters, a second year Center, a new Oline Coach and no playing time together. Including how injuries will impact the continuity.

The difference in Tommy DeVito and Daniel Jones is $40 million dollars a year, five years of NFL experience, and being Drafted #6 in the first round, vs OOGATZ and just do your best kid.

And the beat goes on...

Quote from: kingm56 on May 15, 2024, 02:37:14 PMWhen does it end?  I stopped watching many years ago; the initial seasons were raw and allowed you to witness the sausage making.  Unfortunately, it's now a massive scripted production...IMO, it lost its initial charm; still, I'll watch this season because it's our Giants.

I assume it ends in June.

Quote from: Jclayton92 on May 15, 2024, 02:35:34 PM....

I don't know why they don't take it through the first two weeks of Training Camp. Much more meat on the bone.

Quote from: kingm56 on May 15, 2024, 02:24:24 PMAs it relates to context, should we continue to decouple the Offensive Line from the QB performance? From your posts, I get the impression you believe only the QB benefits from the OL, but fail to acknowledge the OL benefits from sound QB play. If the latter is terrible, it can make the OL appear worse than it is, or at the very least make thier jobs more difficult.  I stumbled across the article below a few years back and kept it to test thier conclusions at the end of each year. I highly encourage you read and consider the points made.  To be clear, I'm not suggesting the Giants OL is great, good, or even average. I acknowledge they stink and negatively impact DJ's performance; however, I also acknowledge DJ's shortcomings contribute to a significant portion of his sacks. IMO, they collectively stunk...

https://www.actionnetwork.com/nfl/are-nfl-quarterbacks-responsible-for-sack-quality 

I was going to drop that point and it's a good one, but I didn't want to have to explain myself in a series of another dozen posts for those in the back of the room.

Quote from: T200 on May 15, 2024, 02:17:03 PM

All good my man! 

The day we all agree, we can close shop.

Quote from: T200 on May 15, 2024, 02:06:55 PMThat's a *little* more plausibe. Little.

Wouldn't Jones throwing to Nabors and Hyatt make for an exciting promotion. The team is struggling to find an identity and this was the best they could do.

The veiled conspiracy theory would be who will the starting QB be for the NY Giants when the media is dropping hints of a competition between two struggling passers.