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#1
Big Blue Huddle / Re: Analytics guy not happy wi...
Last post by babywhales - Today at 01:59:30 PM
Nabers was 6 not Top 5, Harrison was Top 5. 

Had the Giants had a Top 5 pick I think we all can agree Nabers would not have been the pick. 


the Giants did trade, the 39th pick in the 2nd for Burns 

RE: Safety in the 2nd round- I do not know But the G-men got the #1 rated safety in the draft and a Top 35 player in the draft with the 47 pick at a huge need after the departure of Mckinney

Much of this person's claims are wrong and the one that is not blatantly incorrect is debatable
#2
Big Blue Huddle / Re: Schoen defended his no QB ...
Last post by brownelvis54 - Today at 01:55:19 PM
Quote from: BluesCruz on Today at 01:44:24 PMLOL you didn't expect him to be on the roster this year....dont deny it
Schoen went out of his way to include DeVito in his reasoning to not draft a QB

Lets see where the Chips fall....Jones will be on a short leash.  Lock is no "lock"to replace him

That leaves the Jersey hero



What else is he supposed to say? This draft happened the way it had to happen. Prior to the draft we had nothing on offense that scared defensive coaches around the league. We add players to our roster to build our team for the future. Nabers will command attention and that will hopefully equal to other players getting open. We addressed the O-line in FA and UDFA and got a new O-line coach. These issues of bringing in talent and trying to fix the O-line was priority. Jones and Cutlets are already paid for 2024 season. Joe knows this. Unless something drastically changes this upcoming year.....then good bye Jones and Culets. They are just bodies filling a position as of now
#3
Big Blue Huddle / Re: Schoen defended his no QB ...
Last post by babywhales - Today at 01:50:20 PM
Schoen has made comments that placed him in the middle of the road regarding QB all along.  After things fell the way they did why would he say anything that might decrease DJ's probability for success?

If they are going to be on your roster than you support them and Schoen is doing just that yet is always looking at his options.

If Tommy was in the running he would not have signed Lock. There is a good chance 2 of the 3 QB's will be gone next season.
#4
Big Blue Huddle / Re: "Great receivers don't sav...
Last post by babywhales - Today at 01:44:33 PM
Jones has to decide to make certain throws and needs to start hitting receivers in stride and/or all together that he has been missing. 

Jones is reluctant to throw intermediate and long throws unless it is obviously open.  And despite the line, there are plenty of examples of him missing these on plays without pressure. 

There are windows in plays that exist before it is blatantly obvious that the receiver will be open that good quarterbacks will deliver a pass in.  Jones does not take those. Jones needs big windows of separation to pull the trigger or he checks down or runs.  These are the critical throws that when completed alter the defenses single safety approach toward Jones.  Every time he checks down or runs to no avail he reaffirms the defenses approach to bring it and force him over the top.  He is yet to make a defense pay. He must earn the right to see a different defense.

Nabers will probably get the separation that will make Jones comfortable to throw the intermediate and longer throws. In that sense I believe he will help DJ.  He will not make him good and certainly not great.  But he probably will make him functional again.

Nabers, Hyatt and Robinson should be more than enough to provide Jones opportunities to show he can process defensive pre snap fronts and make the correct reads. A healthy Waller with Nabers is more than most QB's are afforded so if they keep Waller there really is not excuse.  
#5
Big Blue Huddle / Re: Schoen defended his no QB ...
Last post by BluesCruz - Today at 01:44:24 PM
Quote from: brownelvis54 on Today at 01:37:50 PMI don't see it. DeVito was only the full-time starter in three of his five collegiate seasons. Add to the fact he will be 26 years old in August. I don't expect him to be on the roster after this season. I wish we had gotten a QB in the latter rounds, but then again, we only had 6 picks. I will be keeping my eyes on Carsen Beck and Quinn Ewers this upcoming college season

LOL you didn't expect him to be on the roster this year....dont deny it
Schoen went out of his way to include DeVito in his reasoning to not draft a QB

Lets see where the Chips fall....Jones will be on a short leash.  Lock is no "lock"to replace him

That leaves the Jersey hero
#6
Big Blue Huddle / Re: Schoen defended his no QB ...
Last post by BluesCruz - Today at 01:40:04 PM
Quote from: ViewFromSection129 on Today at 12:44:23 PMTommy is worth trying to develop into a competent backup QB.  That is the best that can be expected.

He seemed very competent to me in HS, in College and again in his 5 game tenure with us

Jones had the same horrific losing record in College.  The Giants love those Duke QBs

According to Might's post Lock has carried forward a collection of bad habits that even his father pointed out to him to no avail

Tommy has done nothing but win throughout his football career. His teammates love him and he exudes confidence.  This cannot be said about the other two

Jones is basically a running QB and Lock has mediocre written all over him.

Sadly with todays NFL rules, no QB, no cigar
#7
Big Blue Huddle / Re: How do you feel about the ...
Last post by brownelvis54 - Today at 01:39:45 PM
Cautiously Optimistic. I expect us to win 4 games this upcoming season. My hope is that we are competitive during our loses and our O-line makes a huge leap.
#8
Big Blue Huddle / Re: Schoen defended his no QB ...
Last post by brownelvis54 - Today at 01:37:50 PM
I don't see it. DeVito was only the full-time starter in three of his five collegiate seasons. Add to the fact he will be 26 years old in August. I don't expect him to be on the roster after this season. I wish we had gotten a QB in the latter rounds, but then again, we only had 6 picks. I will be keeping my eyes on Carsen Beck and Quinn Ewers this upcoming college season
#9
Big Blue Huddle / Re: Rule 51 ? Are we in troubl...
Last post by londonblue - Today at 01:19:19 PM
I used OTC for the numbers elvis. I have them and Spotrac bookmarked. They both have pros and cons in terms of ease of use/clarity of data but sometimes one or other of them spots something the other misses.
#10
Big Blue Huddle / Re: Analytics guy not happy wi...
Last post by EDjohnst1981 - Today at 01:11:49 PM
It's been well reported they tried to get #3.

If the seller doesn't want to sell. There's nothing you can do. That's so simple.