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Is the Giants' 2024 roster better than the one Joe Schoen inherited after the 2021 season?


Is the New York Giants' roster today better than the one Joe Schoen inherited from Dave Gettleman when he took over as general manager in 2022?

There are 11 players on the current 90-man roster who were drafted or signed by Gettleman. They are:

WR Darius Slayton, LT Andrew Thomas, DT Dexter Lawrence, edge Azeez Ojulari, CB Aaron Robinson, PK Graham Gano, LS Casey Kreiter, RB Gary Brightwell, LB Carter Coughlin, CB Darnay Holmes, QB Daniel Jones.




A breakdown:


https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/is-the-giants-2024-roster-better-than-the-one-joe-schoen-inherited-after-the-2021-season/ar-BB1lU7Gl?ocid=BingNewsSerp

Yes, the Giants won the draft simply because New England didn't take their offer. It is said that the Giants offered pick 6 and next year's 1st round pick to swap places with New England.


So, we take Maye, no weapons, questionable O-line, and no 1st round in the 2025 season? If this was done, it's very conceivable the Giants would have the #1 overall pick in 2025, which would have gone to New England.


It is also possible Joe Schoen would have been on the hot seat in 2026, these events would damage a already damaged franchise IMO. Dave Gettelman had four years with the Giants, to help turn the tide and the results were nothing to brag about. We are in year 3 of Joe Schoen's GM run.


We did the right things in this year's draft. I do suspect our record won't be very good. I also believe we will be picking in the top 5 in 2025, if true, the 2025 draft will be Schoen's legacy. He has to get our QB.


Sanders, Beck and Ewers are QBs that will be in play. Some might add Cameron Ward to the list. Regardless, for Joe Schoen, the 2025 draft needs to be his moment and again he lucky New England turned him down.

Some of the ref calls were suspect

Neal has missed 14 games his first two seasons, can that explain some of the poor performance?

Nice breakdowns, if....if we can get better pass protection...well....no more excuses for our QBs. This was a great pick for whoever is under center after 2024





This CHANGES Everything For The New York Giants.. | Malik Nabers

I agree with Bobby, Joes drafts are questionable as of now......

Quote from: sxdxca38 on May 02, 2024, 07:46:00 PMI agree with that, and if Neal begins to struggle, I think you can switch Eluemunor and Neals positions on the line.

Agreed, but I would move Neal to LG. Seems like he played better on the left side in college, so being on the left side next to a Pro bowl Left Tackle could be the solution?

As of now this is the way I see it. Of course training camp can change this line up


LT Andrew Thomas

LG  Jon Runyon

C  John Michael Schmitz

RG Jermaine Eluemunor

RT Evan Neal

Before anyone here post " the draft is already done" I just want an opinion on what you think. Both men are there at 6...who would you have preferred?


I have seen several reports that Joe Schoen # 1 pick in the draft was Joe Alt. It is said he was sending signals around the league that a QB was in play for the Giants. If a team that wanted a QB would have traded up with a team in the top 5, that in turn would help out chances of Alt slipping to pick 6. Smart way of thinking IMO.


As we all know, no trades were done. I myself didn't se the Chargers taking Alt at 5


For me. I like the Nabers pick. And if I was choosing at 6 I would have taken Nabers at 6 too.

Some might say this was a deep WR draft class and while true, after the top 3 WRs in this draft, the talent wasn't the same. Sure you might get a stud in round 2, Nabers talent cannot be denied. I have seen some that felt Nabers was a better WR than Harrison Jr and regardless of who you thought was better, just the fact they were neck and neck in some conversations speaks volumes about his God given talent.


This draft was also fairly deep as it pertains to the offensive line too. I am in the camp of " it's not easy switching from Left Tackle to Right Tackle". Joe Alt is a stud, but he is a stud at Left Tackle. To assume he would transition to Right tackle with ease is not a given.

For me I would prefer to draft a kid that for the most part played Soley at Right Tackle for the majority of his time in college.


I think Joe got it right, but it makes me wonder...what would he have done in both players were there at 6


https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/new-york-giants/news/new-york-giants-nfl-draft-joe-alt-insider/a0f604ad18cc0b1a1ad6496d

Quote from: EDjohnst1981 on May 02, 2024, 01:10:33 PMIf Tommy is the long term answer, we are asking the wrong question.

Remember there was no tape on Cutlets and now there is some and every team that is scheduled to play us will be breaking it down. The sophomore slump is real. He's a UDFA. If anything, he's already far exceeded expectations. Enjoy the ride but no, he is not the QB of the future. He will soon be 26 years old. If we can get a young cheap QB2 next year will. I can see Lock being the starter in 2025, until our rookie QB is ready to start. Ewers or Beck or whomever it will be. Cutlets will be remembered for the Italian memes; he gave us some fun games in a season that has been abysmal. After 2024 the Giants will turn the page

Quote from: BluesCruz on May 02, 2024, 01:44:24 PMLOL you didn't expect him to be on the roster this year....dont deny it
Schoen went out of his way to include DeVito in his reasoning to not draft a QB

Lets see where the Chips fall....Jones will be on a short leash.  Lock is no "lock"to replace him

That leaves the Jersey hero

What else is he supposed to say? This draft happened the way it had to happen. Prior to the draft we had nothing on offense that scared defensive coaches around the league. We add players to our roster to build our team for the future. Nabers will command attention and that will hopefully equal to other players getting open. We addressed the O-line in FA and UDFA and got a new O-line coach. These issues of bringing in talent and trying to fix the O-line was priority. Jones and Cutlets are already paid for 2024 season. Joe knows this. Unless something drastically changes this upcoming year.....then good bye Jones and Culets. They are just bodies filling a position as of now

Cautiously Optimistic. I expect us to win 4 games this upcoming season. My hope is that we are competitive during our loses and our O-line makes a huge leap.

I don't see it. DeVito was only the full-time starter in three of his five collegiate seasons. Add to the fact he will be 26 years old in August. I don't expect him to be on the roster after this season. I wish we had gotten a QB in the latter rounds, but then again, we only had 6 picks. I will be keeping my eyes on Carsen Beck and Quinn Ewers this upcoming college season

Quote from: MightyGiants on May 02, 2024, 01:00:43 PMadd in the kicker from Rutgers and that's about it.  The Giants UDRFA class had only 9 slots.  Even before Schoen and Daboll, the Giants didn't seem to be into big UDRFA classes.

Why do some teams get tons of picks? Example KC ?


https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/2024-nfl-undrafted-free-agent-tracker-full-team-by-team-list-of-every-player-who-signed-following-nfl-draft/