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Quote from: uconnjack8 on Today at 09:37:45 AMPretty wild to me how much faster Bellinger's 10byard split is but Johnson ran a better 40 time. 

I will take the 10-yard split over the 40 times when it comes to tight ends.

Quote from: DaveBrown74 on Today at 09:33:40 AMI think if this article were written about a QB coming to a team with a bad defense, it wouldn't be unreasonable to write something like "this QB, while very good, may have a tough time leading his team to more wins this year given the uncertainty around the team's defense, which struggled materially in 2023."

Jeff,

It's not like the 2023 disaster of an offense was all on Daniel Jones.  Hell, Jones didn't even play in the majority of games.  So your quote about "the defense" only highlights this author's obsession with Daniel Jones, as there is plenty to be concerned about on the offensive side of the ball, namely the offensive line.

Edit to add-  The Giants got to round 2 of the playoffs with Daniel Jones, so the whole commentary seems disingenuous and only an indication of the Jones hatred that is so pervasive

Pretty wild to me how much faster Bellinger's 10byard split is but Johnson ran a better 40 time. 

Interestingly, we're actually a slight underdog at home tomorrow night.

Right now I am not worried. If we don't win tomorrow night I will be somewhat.

Quote from: EDjohnst1981 on Today at 09:30:59 AMTrue, and it's not a Jones issue - nor am I intimating that - he played with all 3 QBs.

I wouldn't think you would consider this a Daniel Jones issue because Bellinger shined with DJ as QB in 2022.  That was until he sustained a serious eye injury.  Bellinger never was the same when he returned from that injury in 2022 and didn't regain his rookie magic in 2023

Quote from: MightyGiants on Today at 09:25:06 AMIf this was an article about Daniel Jones or the Giants, offense, then yes.  Otherwise, this question seems to create a false framing as it ignores the point that this was an article about Burns and his impact on the Giants.

I guess the point is that if the title of the article is "who will have the biggest impact." "Biggest impact" in this context presumably means biggest impact on wins and losses. The author seems to be saying that Burns could end up playing really well, but his ultimate impact on the Giants' record could be capped by the uncertainty around the offense, led by Daniel Jones who is coming off a bad season that ended early with a serious injury that could affect his performance in 2024.

I think if this article were written about a QB coming to a team with a bad defense, it wouldn't be unreasonable to write something like "this QB, while very good, may have a tough time leading his team to more wins this year given the uncertainty around the team's defense, which struggled materially in 2023."

"Hate" just seems like a strong word in this context.

I don't think its wrong to state that if the offense performs on the same level then Burns opportunities for sacks will be limited.

Whether or not Jones should be mentioned rather than the offense as a whole is debatable.

Quote from: MightyGiants on Today at 09:28:42 AMYeah, he took fewer targets in camp, but he didn't step up when Waller got hurt and he had a chance to shine

True, and it's not a Jones issue - nor am I intimating that - he played with all 3 QBs.

Quote from: EDjohnst1981 on Today at 09:27:32 AMMaybe so.

I suspect (but don't have the stats) that he took far fewer targets in camp, and the season generally, with addition of Waller.

Bellinger reminds me of Kevin Boss and to a lesser degree, Jake Ballard. I think he just needs the ball. Hopefully Johnson is on that ilk too.

Yeah, he took fewer targets in camp, but he didn't step up when Waller got hurt and he had a chance to shine

Quote from: MightyGiants on Today at 09:26:00 AMBellinger needs to focus less on his biceps and more on making an NFL body

Maybe so.

I suspect (but don't have the stats) that he took far fewer targets in camp, and the season generally, with addition of Waller.

Bellinger reminds me of Kevin Boss and to a lesser degree, Jake Ballard. I think he just needs the ball. Hopefully Johnson is on that ilk too.