Quote from: PSUBeirut on May 21, 2024, 07:12:43 PMI think there's also a good number of folks in the fanbase that are still stung by Barkley essentially being right all along about his worth on the market and pretty much everyone else being wrong. Even the bitcoin thing he took so much slack for looks to have bounced back in a huge way (if he even stuck with it...who knows).
And Rich- I have an awful feeling that the hype train is not going to be the only thing to worry about when Barkley comes to town. My gut having watched him for many years is that he's going to want to ring it up against us because of all the silly fan vitriol that's been spewed his way (and I think the Eagles staff, being the a-holes they are, will absolutely work to accommodate this happening). So, that's definitely my bigger worry when he comes back to town.
As for me- no surprises here, I'm hoping he finally gets a creative OC and a solid OL to run behind- and, even if diminished by injury, gets back to that upper echelon of RB that he's worked so hard to be. Just not against us.
Quote from: AZGiantFan on May 21, 2024, 07:23:59 PMSaying the OL played poorly during OBJ's 3 glory years is distorting the team's history.No it's your odd obsession to drive home the same point about the OL you make in countless threads. You don't like the OL, we get it.
One man's canned answers is another man's documented facts.
Quote from: DaveBrown74 on May 21, 2024, 07:22:59 PMPer PFF, the line was comfortably below average (ie bad) in each of Beckham's biggest three years. Phrase it how you like, but it was not good. The point was that an elite receiver can still produce at a high level behind a not good O line, depending on other circumstances. I never made a precise equation to the current line. You inferred that for some reason, even though I clearly said it has been varying degrees of bad since 2012, a statement I firmly stand by.They literally drafted OBJ because the owner said the offense is broken.
https://www.pff.com/news/2014-pff-offensive-line-rankings
https://www.pff.com/news/pro-ranking-all-32-offensive-lines-this-season
https://www.pff.com/news/pro-ranking-all-32-nfl-offensive-lines-this-season
Quote from: Doc16LT56 on May 21, 2024, 07:17:58 PMYour obsessive agenda with distorting this team's history aside, this is a thread about Nabers' ability to perform despite the QB quality. It's not a referendum on whether the OL will play as poorly or any better than last season.
They brought in a couple of vets and are hoping for good health from Thomas and growth from JMS. The assumption is the OL will be somewhat better. The question is how Nabers will perform assuming the current QBs play below par. Is he QB proof?
Step away from your canned answers and think about the thread's premise for once.
Quote from: AZGiantFan on May 21, 2024, 07:05:59 PMReally? In his first 3 years, which were his best 3 years, the Giants were 9th in fewest sacks, t4 in fewest sacks, and t3 in fewest sacks. They've never come close to this proficiency in pass blocking in the post-Eli period, during which their league ranking in sacks allowed averaged 26th fewest. Even in OBJ's 2 good years after his injury year the OL was middle of the road, 22nd and 19th - rankings that would mark a huge improvement if they were able to achieve that this year.
Quote from: BluesCruz on May 21, 2024, 12:37:54 PMHope your feeling better Rich
I don't know, he certainly had a very different backstory and college career
Maybe he will be another Tommy DeVito story- who also had a cirtuitous college career.
Quote from: AZGiantFan on May 21, 2024, 07:09:37 PMSee my post above. The OL was nowhere poor in his 3 glory years. League rankings of a top 10 and 2 top 5s in fewest sacks allowed.Your obsessive agenda with distorting this team's history aside, this is a thread about Nabers' ability to perform despite the QB quality. It's not a referendum on whether the OL will play as poorly or any better than last season.
I guess memories are something else that needs to get fact checked, besides the eye test.