Big Blue Huddle

For those who are advocating for Drew Lock, and making the case that he is a better QB than Daniel Jones, I would kindly ask you to look at both players entire career stats and not just a few games.

Both players were drafted in 2019.

Here are Drew Locks career stats.

59.7% 5283 Yards 28 TD 23 Int 79.3 RTG

Now here are Daniel Jones career stats, including rushing totals.

64.3% 14,426 Yards 75 TD 40 Int 85.2 RTG

As you can see it's not even close, Daniel Jones is the superior QB.

No one can force any of you to change your mind, but you may just want to reconsider your position.

Daniel Jones will be the day one starter, while Drew Lock will be sitting on the bench.

Take care.

Quote from: DaveBrown74 on May 07, 2024, 11:24:37 PMHUGE win!!

We got outplayed overall tonight but Shesty was an absolute animal, especially after the second period. That we found a way to win this game was remarkable.

Series is far from over though. We're in a strong position right now for sure, but Carolina will be balls to the wall the next two games.

This was tremendous. I was constantly worrying we were going to lose this game throughout play tonight. For certain phases of the game they were really dominating us.

Rangers teams in recent past years would have for sure lost this game. The fact that we found a way to win tonight speaks volumes about this year's team. They have some magic going here.

My preview played out darned near to the letter. I did not think a double OT would be needed, but so be it.

54 saves for Igor! The A-game is in full gear! Forget 2022! He's playing above that level right now!

Laffy getting his first two playoff goals were both timely AND needed tonight.

The special teams ended up being the difference again. The two power play goals, from Kreider to tie it, and Vinny T. to win it, will make Brind'Amour mutter to himself.

Just a great physical match which, like files58, I didn't feel nervous at all. I had a quiet confidence the Rangers feel similar to how I'm seeing the playoffs. Everyone's crowning Carolina as the league Champs, but there's one small problem with that:

Rangers: 2 - Paper Champions: 0

Sorry Vegas, and all the misguided, I'm just not seeing it your way.

Now the series gets fun as it shifts to Raleigh. Can the Rangers pull off the improbable to go 3-0? One of two in Raleigh would be huge.

Colorado coming back on Dallas after trailing 0-3, now 2-3 after 2. Great 3rd period coming up!

Peace!

Quote from: MightyGiants on May 07, 2024, 07:20:07 PMI am curious: do you think the fact that Jones was working behind the worst pass protection in the league and throwing to the worst receivers (per PFF) might have skewed last year's numbers when you compare that to Lock having the 28th pass protection, but throwing the 7th best receiver group in the league?

Short answer is - no

HUGE win!!

We got outplayed overall tonight but Shesty was an absolute animal, especially after the second period. That we found a way to win this game was remarkable.

Series is far from over though. We're in a strong position right now for sure, but Carolina will be balls to the wall the next two games.

This was tremendous. I was constantly worrying we were going to lose this game throughout play tonight. For certain phases of the game they were really dominating us.

Rangers teams in recent past years would have for sure lost this game. The fact that we found a way to win tonight speaks volumes about this year's team. They have some magic going here.

Quote from: Ed Vette on May 07, 2024, 08:05:39 PMCamp arm

I like his pocket presence significantly more than Devitos.

Quote from: AYM on May 07, 2024, 09:30:54 PMFor what it's worth, the Giants gave up 20 more sacks than the 31st place team. It could be argued that there was a giant chasm between the Giants OL and the 28th ranked line.

You could very well be 100% right as I haven't looked at the overall pressures, rankings etc and just looked at the base ratings pff gave teams olines.

The problem though is that one qb is making pennies and one is making 8× the other qb a year. So yes does the 32nd to 28th line probably make some difference, absolutely but not enough that a guy making 8× is performing underneath a guy that shouldn't be starting.

So yes we can make all the excuses for Jones in the world as some of them are viable like the oline. Multiple backups though shouldn't look significantly better than your 40 million a year quarterback.

The fact that the media pundits, analyst, and everyone else are even discussing a backup as being a better option to a qb that is making 40 million a year is the problem.

Quote from: Bob In PA on May 07, 2024, 09:49:54 PMTim: It is also possible making a move for Maye meant they'd rather have Maye than Lock (or Tommy). Bob

Bob,

The QB order is Jones, Lock, and DeVito. If they made a move for Maye, he'd have to be viewed as the eventual #1. If they liked Maye better than Jones, then, by extension, better than the other two as well.

I don't think they'd make a move to get to a top 3 pick to draft a backup.

Quote from: T200 on May 07, 2024, 03:46:09 PMIf they made a move for Maye, that pretty much says they'd rather have him than DJ. QB is not a multiple player position like WR.

Tim: It is also possible making a move for Maye meant they'd rather have Maye than Lock (or Tommy). Bob

Quote from: Jclayton92 on May 07, 2024, 07:41:01 PMIs there really that big of a difference in the 28th vs the 32nd to you? 

I understand you were trying to make a point that somehow there was a huge difference in the 28th vs 32nd but there isn't, not enough to jump the stats that much. Even if you want to say they have better wrs which they do, Lock still attacked down the field while Jones did not.

For what it's worth, the Giants gave up 20 more sacks than the 31st place team. It could be argued that there was a giant chasm between the Giants OL and the 28th ranked line.