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Dan Duggan
@DDuggan21
If the Giants can't get up to No. 3, it really feels like their draft hinges on their evaluation of JJ McCarthy.
• Do they like him enough to trade up to 4 or 5 to ensure they get him?
• Do they like him enough to take him if he's there at 6? This would be the most fascinating. Would Schoen really be willing to take the risk of getting leap-frogged at 4 or 5 if he believes McCarthy is worthy of 6? He traded up last year because he didn't want to miss out on a corner when picking 25th.
• Do they like a WR more at 6?
I wish I could provide a definitive answer to these questions, but McCarthy has been the wild card throughout this process.
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The reports I read is that the Patriots are laughing at trade offers (like Gettleman with his #2 Barkley pick) and are dead set at taking a QB there.
When people get far enough upside down, they are most likely to take the greatest risk as their downside is minimal.
I wouldn't give NE the world for Maye. They are teasing now. They will stick with Maye. My sights would be on JJ. Cardinals have 11 draft picks already. Not sure accumulating more this year is worth it to them if they lose Harrison. The Chargers are the wild card. The Giants have the higher pick to dangle.
I would be elated with Drake "Passage" Maye as long as the Giants don't trade up for him.
Quote from: katkavage on April 25, 2024, 01:50:30 PMI wouldn't give NE the world for Maye. They are teasing now. They will stick with Maye. My sights would be on JJ. Cardinals have 11 draft picks already. Not sure accumulating more this year is worth it to them if they lose Harrison. The Chargers are the wild card. The Giants have the higher pick to dangle.
I think the Chargers would be willing to switch with the Giants, assuming Harbaugh knows JJ wants to play in NY. Chargers would then get a bonafide stud at WR or their highest rated lineman.
If you go to the 4 minute mark, Mike Lombardi talks the latest of what he has heard about the Giants
https://open.spotify.com/episode/6G9kLw7VxAaVuZLld6NtEe?si=yD2qQyvOTeSfy3YdWMeQtQ
https://x.com/Connor_J_Hughes/status/1783587488625307847
Quite frankly, these details have most likely been worked out.
Quote from: MightyGiants on April 25, 2024, 04:26:48 PMhttps://x.com/Connor_J_Hughes/status/1783587488625307847
Again, either NE trades with Minnesota or the Giants or stays put. If they trade with Minnesota, Minny takes Maye. The Giants should be able to counter either Denver or Las Vegas with the #6 pick with the Chargers to get JJ. Or...JJ will be there at six and both Arizona and the Chargers will get their top players, Harrison and Alt, respectively. I don't think they can get Maye. JJ yes and certainly Penix.
I read that the Cards dont want to trade back beyond 6 because they want one of the big WRs and especially Harrison or pick of Nabers/Odunze.
I think that affects Vikings trading up to 4.
Quote from: Ed Vette on April 25, 2024, 04:31:41 PMQuite frankly, these details have most likely been worked out.
Exactly. Do you think the Giants going into their 100 year anniversary will make them more likely or less likely to make a move? Or be a non-factor?
I try not to pay too much heed to these "I'm hearing x team is trying to do this", but there sure is a lot of smoke with this one.
I know most Giants fans hate the idea of trading up to get a QB, but there is something to be said for "going and getting your guy" if our brass really feel passionately about him, which it sounds like they do if these reports are accurate.
Could it fail spectacularly? Sure. So can drafting the top rated left tackle 7th overall. So can any pick. That doesn't mean it's not worth trying if you have done your homework and you believe you're getting an elite talent.
Quote from: Jclayton92 on April 25, 2024, 04:36:01 PMExactly. Do you think the Giants going into their 100 year anniversary will make them more likely or less likely to make a move? Or be a non-factor?
I never thought of that. It could be a factor for the owners.
My dream scenario is us being offered and accepting the Denver trade that's been reported.
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if he's there at 6...so be it. I will not be happy if we give up the house to trade up, for any of these guys. we have 6 picks and holes everywhere. gotta make them count. my money is still on odunze.
Last minute rumors are renowned for their accuracy.
:knockONwood: who's there? Rumor. Rumor who? Dont You Rumormember me? =))
Oh..yeah. :surrender:
https://x.com/AlexWilsonESM/status/1783603658573107686
Quote from: MightyGiants on April 25, 2024, 05:07:38 PMhttps://x.com/AlexWilsonESM/status/1783603658573107686
If I were the GM, I wouldn't. But... Schoen is the man and has much more information and knowledge from his folks than I have. If he made that move, I trust his judgment more than mine.
Quote from: MightyGiants on April 25, 2024, 05:07:38 PMhttps://x.com/AlexWilsonESM/status/1783603658573107686
It's exactly what I said it would take. Do it.
Quote from: Ed Vette on April 25, 2024, 05:30:33 PMIt's exactly what I said it would take. Do it.
I think that's actually cheap if you hit.
Quote from: Ed Vette on April 25, 2024, 05:30:33 PMIt's exactly what I said it would take. Do it.
I don't think NE wants to trade out. They are playing games. And I don't see Arizona passing on Harrison. They lose him if they trade with Minnesota. And they already have 2 first round picks and 11 total. It's the Chargers that can blow it up for the Giants. But if they swap with the Giants they get either Odunze or Alt while Giants get McCarthy. If they swap with the Vikings they get an extra first round picks but lose Alt and Odunze. We shall see.
Quote from: Ed Vette on April 25, 2024, 05:30:33 PMIt's exactly what I said it would take. Do it.
Agreed. Pull the trigger. No nonsense, give the fan base the right to dream again
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Quote from: DaveBrown74 on April 25, 2024, 04:38:32 PMI try not to pay too much heed to these "I'm hearing x team is trying to do this", but there sure is a lot of smoke with this one.
I know most Giants fans hate the idea of trading up to get a QB, but there is something to be said for "going and getting your guy" if our brass really feel passionately about him, which it sounds like they do if these reports are accurate.
Could it fail spectacularly? Sure. So can drafting the top rated left tackle 7th overall. So can any pick. That doesn't mean it's not worth trying if you have done your homework and you believe you're getting an elite talent.
Can't be any worse than doing the same thing for the 6th year in a row.
https://x.com/albertbreer/status/1783614105653215515?s=46&t=1vcQIN8GqF5J2oLdxEVEJQ
https://x.com/ProFootballTalk/status/1783626927346946065
Quote from: T200 on April 25, 2024, 05:11:27 PMIf I were the GM, I wouldn't. But... Schoen is the man and has much more information and knowledge from his folks than I have. If he made that move, I trust his judgment more than mine.
I agree. Although he extended Jones, so if he only extended Jones, there's an issue in evaluation.
If we accept, as speculated on message boards, that Mara was involved in that. Fine, pull the trigger.
Joe knows he goes as far as this guy goes. So I'd be inclined to pull the trigger.
https://x.com/TomPelissero/status/1783629631859409169
Quote from: MightyGiants on April 25, 2024, 06:52:02 PMhttps://x.com/TomPelissero/status/1783629631859409169
Kraft wants a QB. They are in the same situation as the Giants but with even more holes. They should start Brissett and let Maye sit for the year. Their rebuild will take awhile.
Makes sense. The Pats are as QB-needy as we are. Why would they mess around? As it is they're only going to get the third QB off the board. Why would you accept less than that in their situation?
https://x.com/Schultz_Report/status/1783630769350475995
https://x.com/NFL_DovKleiman/status/1783632658913726488
https://x.com/AlbertBreer/status/1783635362578837945
https://x.com/MikeReiss/status/1783634068854214681