:o :scared: :o :surrender:
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Naples is already breaking hundred-year-old records with water height. And Naples wasn't even taking a direct hit. Fort Meyers seems to be the target landfall. Water expected 15 - 20 feet above normal and if you've ever lived or been to Florida, there is no such thing as "high ground"
I was supposed to be in St. Petersburg area last week but keep putting it off and was set to leave Sunday a few days ago, but this hurricane has reset my calendar. My granddaughter has a girlfriend who goes to Sanibel Island every Christmas for her family to spend time with her grandparents. They have a cottage nearby themselves. Looking at the stuff on Weather Channel, there's going to be very little left of the island. The bridge to the island is already completely underwater (and it's low tied)
Can't take my eyes of the Weather Channel on TV - just wow!
I fear there will be great damage and some loss of life for those who didn't get out when they should have. It's now a category 5. There will be parts of that gulf coast that will never recover land.
Ian is my other son's name and he didn't do nearly as much damage thru his entire childhood. :no: :no: :no: :no:
https://twitter.com/nfl_dovkleiman/status/1575205053308321793
Quote from: MightyGiants on September 28, 2022, 06:44:54 PMhttps://twitter.com/nfl_dovkleiman/status/1575205053308321793
Crazy. I was watching TWC as that happened and I asked my wife the same question.
LMAO =))
How bizarre - hurricane Ian drained much of Tampa Bay and displaced it in Fort Myers a hundred miles south :what:
https://twitter.com/dougie_doowop/status/1575119033829138433
https://wlac.iheart.com/content/2022-09-28-look-hurricane-ian-sucks-water-out-of-tampa-bay-ahead-of-arrival/
A large section of the Sanibel Causeway was knocked into San Carlos Bay, isolating the city island of Sanibel, which has about 7500 people living on it.
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I have to think they have some medical helicopters available because those people who stayed behind are going to need medical help. Pretty dire for those folks because they not only have no electricity or phone service, they are basically stranded with no access to help. A lot of focus on Fort Myers, but Sanibel Island took the initial bullseye hit
https://twitter.com/BradHabuda/status/1575185864069566466
Quote from: Jolly Blue Giant on September 28, 2022, 10:17:29 PMHow bizarre - hurricane Ian drained much of Tampa Bay and displaced it in Fort Myers a hundred miles south :what:
https://twitter.com/dougie_doowop/status/1575119033829138433
https://wlac.iheart.com/content/2022-09-28-look-hurricane-ian-sucks-water-out-of-tampa-bay-ahead-of-arrival/
While I confess to never having seen this before, it's totally understandable. Most of the tidal flooding from hurricanes is due to the winds blowing the water inland. In this particular case the water was blowing the water away from Tampa and toward the other towns now under water.
Quote from: MightyGiants on September 29, 2022, 09:43:29 AMWhile I confess to never having seen this before, it's totally understandable. Most of the tidal flooding from hurricanes is due to the winds blowing the water inland. In this particular case the water was blowing the water away from Tampa and toward the other towns now under water.
Yea, the hurricane is like a buzzsaw. I always look at the wind direction and the wind coming in from the body of water is going to get killed, while the areas where the wind is driving away from a body of water is realistically ideal. Tampa/St.Pete really lucked out
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Right now, Daytona Beach is getting killed for the same reason. It's pulling water out of the Atlantic and dumping in the St. Augustine/Daytona Beach area. At present, they have gotten more inches of water than Fort Myers got...however, winds only sustained between 60-70 mph instead of twice that of which Fort Myers got
https://twitter.com/WxBrenn/status/1575253395304288271
They fear HUNDREDS have lost their lives with this storm!
Praying for Florida! This storm was BRUTAL!
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I have to confess, I am a little surprised by the Bucs playing their home game Sunday
Our thoughts and prayers remain with the many thousands in the Southwest Florida region who have been severely impacted by Hurricane Ian. We are also very thankful that the Tampa Bay area was spared the most damaging consequences of this powerful storm. We have informed the NFL, after consulting with local and state agencies, that we are ready to play Sunday night's game against the Kansas City Chiefs at Raymond James Stadium as originally scheduled.
We would like to thank all of the local government agencies and the thousands of emergency personnel who worked tirelessly over the past few days to ensure that our area would be ready to respond if needed. We would also like to acknowledge the Miami Dolphins organization for their assistance and hospitality in allowing us to use their practice facilities this week.
We also want to express our sincere appreciation to the first responders and emergency personnel who are already battling the elements, saving lives, and helping our neighbors in those most impacted areas to our south.
We will have additional information soon on ways we can join together to support our community and those most impacted by the storm.
*This is in no way to make light of the current situation in Florida.*
Ric/Jolly Blue Giant, if you haven't already read it, now might be a good time to read Carl Hiaasen's book Stormy Weather, (one of my favorites of his books). It will be interesting to see how closely the events in his novel parallels actual post-hurricane reality during the next several months or more.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stormy_Weather_(novel)
Quote from: Sem on September 29, 2022, 02:41:49 PM*This is in no way to make light of the current situation in Florida.*
Ric/Jolly Blue Giant, if you haven't already read it, now might be a good time to read Carl Hiaasen's book Stormy Weather, (one of my favorites of his books). It will be interesting to see how closely the events in his novel parallels actual post-hurricane reality during the next several months or more.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stormy_Weather_(novel)
Love Hiaasen's novels. I read four or five of his books since you (or someone on here - pretty sure it was you) told me about him. Thanks for the tip - it's one I haven't read
Concrete houses are getting popular around my area. Even the roof of a house is poured concrete. I'm surprised more houses in Florida along the coast are not being made this way. Exteriors can be made to look like any ordinary house with no limit to options, and they are just as beautiful as a stick house. Downside: extremely quiet inside compared to wood houses (cancels a lot of outside noise which might bother some people), and it's necessary to have fresh air pumped in and circulated throughout. Upside: maintenance free, can heat or cool house for pennies, and can withstand anything the environment throws at you
In a hurricane, trailers are first to go, then modulars, then stick houses, etc
It always baffled me as to why more concrete/brick houses/structure aren't built in hurricane and tornado-prone areas. When we were stationed in Japan and Okinawa, the buildings and houses were predominantly concrete. Typhoons would cause minimal structural damage with most of the damage coming from the water, not the wind.
As small as Okinawa is, it fascinated me when we were caught in multiple typhoons where the eye passed directly over the island. Actually kind of surreal.
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Quote from: T200 on October 03, 2022, 07:25:45 AMIt always baffled me as to why more concrete/brick houses/structure aren't built in hurricane and tornado-prone areas. When we were stationed in Japan and Okinawa, the buildings and houses were predominantly concrete. Typhoons would cause minimal structural damage with most of the damage coming from the water, not the wind.
As small as Okinawa is, it fascinated me when we were caught in multiple typhoons where the eye passed directly over the island. Actually kind of surreal.
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must have been cool with a break of sunshine between the carnage. I would guess that the tide would recede and then comeback with a vengeance. Bill Mahar was commenting on stick houses on shorelines of hurricane and tornado regions in his standup portion.
Quote from: Ed Vette on October 03, 2022, 11:17:57 AMmust have been cool with a break of sunshine between the carnage. I would guess that the tide would recede and then comeback with a vengeance. Bill Mahar was commenting on stick houses on shorelines of hurricane and tornado regions in his standup portion.
Cool and wild! As the storms approached, trees were bending close to 60 degrees in one direction, then after the eye passed over us, the winds started pushing the trees the opposite way. Many of them held up and didn't snap!
Quote from: T200 on October 03, 2022, 11:22:08 AMCool and wild! As the storms approached, trees were bending close to 60 degrees in one direction, then after the eye passed over us, the winds started pushing the trees the opposite way. Many of them held up and didn't snap!
Makes me wonder if survival of the fittest kicks in and it's an example of Darwin's theory. More flexible trees with deeper roots.
Quote from: Ed Vette on October 03, 2022, 11:29:23 AMMakes me wonder if survival of the fittest kicks in and it's an example of Darwin's theory. More flexible trees with deeper roots.
Yep, and adaptability.
Darwin takes care of the folks who want to go out to the seawall as well. Seems every time a typhoon comes through, there are of reports of someone getting snatched up by the wind and waves. :doh:
Quote from: T200 on October 03, 2022, 11:44:49 AMYep, and adaptability.
Darwin takes care of the folks who want to go out to the seawall as well. Seems every time a typhoon comes through, there are of reports of someone getting snatched up by the wind and waves. :doh:
I remember a story from a few years back of a group of college age kids decided to have a "hurricane party" on their balcony. They were never found and never to have been heard from again :doh:
Quote from: Jolly Blue Giant on October 03, 2022, 11:54:50 AMI remember a story from a few years back of a group of college age kids decided to have a "hurricane party" on their balcony. They were never found and never to have been heard from again :doh:
I only remember one incident where the remains were recovered after the storm passed.
Wow!
man florida, anything nailed down will end up in the ocean
well my observation is there aren't any "stick houses around. They cant meet the building codes. IF you rebuild on those barrier Islands you should get professional help. no question. Theres going to be a storm some day where those islands will disappear forever.