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General Category => Big Blue Huddle => Topic started by: JT39 on October 08, 2023, 05:20:31 PM

Title: First Guy I’d bench or trade
Post by: JT39 on October 08, 2023, 05:20:31 PM
Xavier McKinney. This guy is a loser in every possible way. From his selfish act last year, from his act earlier this year and now this...



Dan Duggan
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Asked a question about Miami's big plays, Xavier McKinney, "What we're not gonna do is keep blaming the defense. We lost as a team and it is what it is."





Dan Duggan
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Fox analyst Jonathan Vilma said on the broadcast that McKinney blew the coverage on Tyreek Hill's 69-yard touchdown. McKinney said, "That's not accurate at all. Who was on the broadcast?"

Told it was Vilma, McKinney replied, "Oh, OK. He don't know what he's talking about then....

Just a self centered player who makes more mistakes and plays. Want him no part of the future.
Title: Re: First Guy I’d bench or trade
Post by: Trench on October 08, 2023, 05:24:42 PM
Quote from: JT39 on October 08, 2023, 05:20:31 PMXavier McKinney. This guy is a loser in every possible way. From his selfish act last year, from his act earlier this year and now this...



Dan Duggan
@DDuggan21
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19m
Asked a question about Miami's big plays, Xavier McKinney, "What we're not gonna do is keep blaming the defense. We lost as a team and it is what it is."





Dan Duggan
@DDuggan21
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18m
Replying to
@DDuggan21
Fox analyst Jonathan Vilma said on the broadcast that McKinney blew the coverage on Tyreek Hill's 69-yard touchdown. McKinney said, "That's not accurate at all. Who was on the broadcast?"

Told it was Vilma, McKinney replied, "Oh, OK. He don't know what he's talking about then....

Just a self centered player who makes more mistakes and plays. Want him no part of the future.

Excellent pick. Character matters.
Title: Re: First Guy I’d bench or trade
Post by: EDjohnst1981 on October 08, 2023, 05:28:23 PM
Team sounds like it's imploding.

It reads, and I've not heard it, that he's looking to blame the offense.

Both have been dreadful. I don't have enough fingers on my hands to point to all the blame for this collective failure.
Title: Re: First Guy I’d bench or trade
Post by: Jclayton92 on October 08, 2023, 05:28:58 PM
If he was playing in a traditional defense and the giants could actually afford to allow him to be the deep safety and ballhawk he'd be amazing.

Imagine calling someone you don't know self centered because they went on a vacation and are venting because they are tired of losing. The defense hasn't been great but it hasn't been the problem. We didn't invest in the defense this offseason like we did the offense.

Like seriously look at the secondary it's Mckinney and Jackson with 2 rookies and a UDFA and even they aren't the problem.
Title: Re: First Guy I’d bench or trade
Post by: Rambo89 on October 08, 2023, 05:30:30 PM
Quote from: Jclayton92 on October 08, 2023, 05:28:58 PMIf he was playing in a traditional defense and the giants could actually afford to allow him to be the deep safety and ballhawk he'd be amazing.

Imagine calling someone you don't know self centered because they went on a vacation and are venting because they are tired of losing. The defense hasn't been great but it hasn't been the problem. We didn't invest in the defense this offseason like we did the offense.

Like seriously look at the secondary it's Mckinney and Jackson with 2 rookies and a UDFA and even they aren't the problem.

They haven't been good.  McKinney has missed a number of tackles and the effort looks to be lacking.  I'm glad the Giants didn't hand him a big extension.
Title: Re: First Guy I’d bench or trade
Post by: Trench on October 08, 2023, 05:32:08 PM
Quote from: Jclayton92 on October 08, 2023, 05:28:58 PMIf he was playing in a traditional defense and the giants could actually afford to allow him to be the deep safety and ballhawk he'd be amazing.

Imagine calling someone you don't know self centered because they went on a vacation and are venting because they are tired of losing. The defense hasn't been great but it hasn't been the problem. We didn't invest in the defense this offseason like we did the offense.

Like seriously look at the secondary it's Mckinney and Jackson with 2 rookies and a UDFA and even they aren't the problem.

McKinney was thought to be a star. He's far from it. I see him missing tackles, tackling up high and today it appeared he missed an assignment (maybe).

But it's his comments which have really made me give pause
Title: Re: First Guy I’d bench or trade
Post by: TDToomer on October 08, 2023, 05:49:22 PM
And replace him with who???? They will draft yet another safety, start him right away, and watch him get burned.
Title: Re: First Guy I’d bench or trade
Post by: Trench on October 08, 2023, 05:54:23 PM
O line Coach
Title: Re: First Guy I’d bench or trade
Post by: Doc16LT56 on October 08, 2023, 06:01:48 PM
McKinney's going to walk at the end of the season. Unless they tag him which is unlikely at this point. It might make more sense to ride out the season and hope for a comp pick.
Title: Re: First Guy I’d bench or trade
Post by: JT39 on October 08, 2023, 06:12:31 PM
Quote from: Doc16LT56 on October 08, 2023, 06:01:48 PMMcKinney's going to walk at the end of the season. Unless they tag him which is unlikely at this point. It might make more sense to ride out the season and hope for a comp pick.

Rather trade him. If we sign free agents, the comp pick will be wiped out
Title: Re: First Guy I’d bench or trade
Post by: TDToomer on October 08, 2023, 06:18:55 PM
Quote from: Doc16LT56 on October 08, 2023, 06:01:48 PMMcKinney's going to walk at the end of the season. Unless they tag him which is unlikely at this point. It might make more sense to ride out the season and hope for a comp pick.

Tag McKinney?  =))  :laugh:  :scared:  :surprise:
Title: Re: First Guy I’d bench or trade
Post by: madbadger on October 08, 2023, 06:36:56 PM
With Drake May and Caleb Williams floating around out there I'd hope that every veteran who is on an expiring contract with some value will be dealt for picks and a better chance of actually landing a franchise quarterback. It's not like Williams, Jackson and McKinney are making a difference. If Barkley gets healthy and plays well they should move him too. Same goes for Waller and Campbell.
Title: Re: First Guy I’d bench or trade
Post by: VanPelt on October 08, 2023, 06:49:07 PM
All this tells me is the team is fracturing internally. The defense probably feels like its being hung out to dry by the lousy offense. You can see it in their actions on the field
Title: Re: First Guy I’d bench or trade
Post by: LennG on October 08, 2023, 07:49:15 PM
Quote from: JT39 on October 08, 2023, 05:20:31 PMXavier McKinney. This guy is a loser in every possible way. From his selfish act last year, from his act earlier this year and now this...



Dan Duggan
@DDuggan21
·
19m
Asked a question about Miami's big plays, Xavier McKinney, "What we're not gonna do is keep blaming the defense. We lost as a team and it is what it is."





Dan Duggan
@DDuggan21
·
18m
Replying to
@DDuggan21
Fox analyst Jonathan Vilma said on the broadcast that McKinney blew the coverage on Tyreek Hill's 69-yard touchdown. McKinney said, "That's not accurate at all. Who was on the broadcast?"

Told it was Vilma, McKinney replied, "Oh, OK. He don't know what he's talking about then....

Just a self centered player who makes more mistakes and plays. Want him no part of the future.


"From his selfish act last year,"---selfish act. I think you need to reevaluate things, brother. Yes, he got hurt doing something he really wasn't supposed to do, but so do 75% of the players in all sports. It was an unfortunate accident that did hurt the Giants, but a selfish act---- never happened.
Title: Re: First Guy I’d bench or trade
Post by: uconnjack8 on October 08, 2023, 08:24:01 PM
Is this a move to improve the team or get rid of someone you don't like? 

Today the defense didnt look good but if you told me prior to the game they would get 3 takeaways and score a TD, I would have thought they would be in a position to get a win.

On the other hand, if you told me the offense wouldn't score a TD, I would have thought the score would have been worse than it was (it could have been).

If I were going to bench anyone, it would be Jones right now.  Let Taylor play and see if there is any improvement.

Title: Re: First Guy I’d bench or trade
Post by: Giggles on October 08, 2023, 08:37:00 PM
All veteran players on this team should be on the trading block. Accumulate the draft assets while you can.
Title: Re: First Guy I’d bench or trade
Post by: expatriot on October 08, 2023, 09:12:07 PM
The defense sucks. They have nothing to talk about...even with 3 turnovers.  What did they give up?  More than 500 yards of offense? That's good?  Can't tackle, soft soft soft.  Got bitch slapped all over the field by Miami.  Run to the right...15 yards, run to the left 10 yards, run up the middle 12 yards...just ridiculous. Blown off the ball.  When they are pitching shut outs the defense can run their mouths, until then, they are just another part of the problem.
Title: Re: First Guy I’d bench or trade
Post by: nicky1000 on October 08, 2023, 09:18:15 PM
Quote from: TDToomer on October 08, 2023, 05:49:22 PMAnd replace him with who???? They will draft yet another safety, start him right away, and watch him get burned.

Cmon, we got Landon Collins waiting for a call! lol
Title: Re: First Guy I’d bench or trade
Post by: TDToomer on October 09, 2023, 10:33:42 AM
Quote from: Giggles on October 08, 2023, 08:37:00 PMAll veteran players on this team should be on the trading block. Accumulate the draft assets while you can.

Define veteran. How many years in the league does one become a veteran when most players barely last more than 4 seasons?