Not exactly sure how this would go over with Mara and Tisch:
https://twitter.com/NFL_DovKleiman/status/1714443391046422556
Maybe he should stop sucking in big games before showing unfounded overconfidence concerning his chance of NFL success. Bob
Quote from: DaveBrown74 on October 18, 2023, 02:14:17 PMNot exactly sure how this would go over with Mara and Tisch:
https://twitter.com/NFL_DovKleiman/status/1714443391046422556
He should pray he makes it to a 2nd contract instead.
no team is going to do this
Dov Kleiman
@NFL_DovKleiman
Report: USC Caleb Williams wants partial ownership from the #NFL team that will select him in the 2024 Draft, per
@ProFootballTalk
PFT reported in July that Caleb's representatives had been making it known that Williams wants partial ownership of the team that selects him in 2024, if he declares for the draft.
Additionally, #Jets QB Aaron Rodgers also attempted to secure equity during his contract discussions with the Jets, but the NFL stepped in to say that isn't allowed.
https://t.co/5hxKvdmxeM
Quote from: MightyGiants on October 18, 2023, 03:06:26 PMDov Kleiman
@NFL_DovKleiman
Report: USC Caleb Williams wants partial ownership from the #NFL team that will select him in the 2024 Draft, per
@ProFootballTalk
PFT reported in July that Caleb's representatives had been making it known that Williams wants partial ownership of the team that selects him in 2024, if he declares for the draft.
Additionally, #Jets QB Aaron Rodgers also attempted to secure equity during his contract discussions with the Jets, but the NFL stepped in to say that isn't allowed.
https://t.co/5hxKvdmxeM
If they wouldn't allow it for a future Hall of Famer like Aaron Rodgers, there's less than a 0% chance of it happening for a rookie
It really is an absurd, even outrageous demand when you really think about it. Established, elite players who are already HOF locks and have multiple Lombardi trophies for one team have never gotten this. He has never taken an NFL snap and this is what is on the table if you want to draft him? Very presumptuous and entitled, assuming the reports are accurate.
Antics like this or Shadeur Sanders buying himself a Rolls Royce out of his NIL money should be huge red flags about the mental makeup of these players in which no amount of arm talent will offset.
A poor mans "Air McNair".
Is it April 1st already ?
I'm sure it's some greedy agent in his ear, but he still owns it if he allowed his agent to persuade him to try to do this. He's not 8 years old.
This is so absurd it rises to a level to me of....it's probably not true. He can't be so insane as to think any team would ever actually do this. Rodgers actually is insane, so that tracks on his part, but with Williams I have to believe this is either false or coming from his agents without his knowledge or permission.
It's a lofty goal and desire but it'll never come to fruition.
No billionaire in his right mind will offer that to someone who isn't proven to be an asset to the organization over a long period of time. As much as Kraft loves Brady, it would be a non-starter.
Young Caleb needs to find other creative ways to enhance his portfolio.
Canada has teams.
Imagine how his first veteran contract negotiations will go.
A pretty laughable notion within the football sphere and one that shows just how pervasive the Silicon Valley mindset has become. The next frontier for players would be quarterbacks getting fully guaranteed contracts, or some static percentage of the overall cap. Given the fact that the NFL has already laughed the Deshaun Watson deal off the set, and returned to some level of normalcy with the deals for Hurts, Burrow, Jackson et al, Williams' request reeks of a level of hubris I've not seen in a mighty long time.
While the NFL has already stepped in and wagged it's finger, the NFLPA would not be too far behind. They're supposed to represent all players and I can only imagine how a Patrick Mahomes or Matt Stafford might react if that were actually approved.
If this is true it's pretty absurd for a variety of reasons.
One would think an agent would know the rules regarding this.
The kid must be auditioning for his life after football already: a gig on Comedy Central.
=)) =D>
:what:
Whatever!
Peace!
Quote from: kartanoman on October 18, 2023, 04:55:05 PMThe kid must be auditioning for his life after football already: a gig on Comedy Central.
=)) =D>
:what:
Whatever!
Peace!
He should hire Thibodeaux as a consultant.
Mara can't, Tisch would then have full control. The Mara family's 50% is really like 51% as president John's decision breaks any ties.
https://twitter.com/ProFootballTalk/status/1714666644570603538?t=CzSToyUN0brbmbgKZCvt9A&s=19
Quote from: DaveBrown74 on October 18, 2023, 02:14:17 PMNot exactly sure how this would go over with Mara and Tisch:
https://twitter.com/NFL_DovKleiman/status/1714443391046422556
First, not sure you are allowed to do that as a player and secondly, hard pass!
I would say that Williams owes John Riggins equity for the painting of fingernails look before any partial ownership talks begin. :what: =))
Looks like someone is already trying to scare some owners off hoping he drops to them. Lol. I'd file this under stuff that never happened but somehow made it to the public, or he's got a rep that isn't really a rep who's looking to make a name for himself.
https://twitter.com/MrKingBaller/status/1715920985646363053
https://x.com/NFL_DovKleiman/status/1715935463456788552?s=20
Quote from: MightyGiants on October 22, 2023, 08:06:45 AMhttps://x.com/NFL_DovKleiman/status/1715935463456788552?s=20
The teams he lost to this year are just better teams in every way.
Quote from: DaveBrown74 on October 22, 2023, 06:44:11 AMhttps://twitter.com/MrKingBaller/status/1715920985646363053
Have to admit, I dont get this one
Quote from: uconnjack8 on October 22, 2023, 08:40:19 AMHave to admit, I dont get this one
It's just f-ing stupid meme. USC is averaging an ungodly 47 points per game this year. They lost the last two games because their defense sucks. It has nothing to do with Williams.
Quote from: madbadger on October 22, 2023, 10:09:30 AMIt's just f-ing stupid meme. USC is averaging an ungodly 47 points per game this year. They lost the last two games because their defense sucks. It has nothing to do with Williams.
What is the meme supposed to mean?
I will say, I watched almost the entire Notre Dame game and the defense was not the only problem. 3 INTs in the 1st half was not helpful. Given his offense was completely outclassed by the ND D
Quote from: uconnjack8 on October 22, 2023, 10:43:40 AMWhat is the meme supposed to mean?
I will say, I watched almost the entire Notre Dame game and the defense was not the only problem. 3 INTs in the 1st half was not helpful. Given his offense was completely outclassed by the ND D
The meme is that he looks good when it counts but like Prescott he disappears against good teams. He looked like crap against Notre Dame, so what? Every quarterback has a really bad game here and there.
We watch this same thing happen every year. The top quarterback prospect goes through a period where every aspect of his game is picked apart and even one small flaw is blown completely out of proportion and everything else is discounted.
IMHO he's the best quarterback prospect since Peyton Manning, and he might be better because he can pull the ball down and run. His stats this year are silly. Outside the Notre Dame game he has one int on the season and has accounted for 30 touchdowns and with five games to go he could surpass 45.
None of this has anything to do with you. I just hate the let's tear a great player down for no reason.
Caleb could get partial ownership of Wendy's. The Caleb Combo anyone? <:-P
Quote from: madbadger on October 22, 2023, 11:41:18 AMThe meme is that he looks good when it counts but like Prescott he disappears against good teams. He looked like crap against Notre Dame, so what? Every quarterback has a really bad game here and there.
We watch this same thing happen every year. The top quarterback prospect goes through a period where every aspect of his game is picked apart and even one small flaw is blown completely out of proportion and everything else is discounted.
IMHO he's the best quarterback prospect since Peyton Manning, and he might be better because he can pull the ball down and run. His stats this year are silly. Outside the Notre Dame game he has one int on the season and has accounted for 30 touchdowns and with five games to go he could surpass 45.
None of this has anything to do with you. I just hate the let's tear a great player down for no reason.
I didn't realize that was Prescott in the Meme. It's all good
My posting of it was not meant to be anything more than a lighthearted, non-serious jab for the rut he is in. It gave me a mild chuckle given it included a QB on a hated rival team of ours. I am fully aware of how talented a quarterback Caleb Williams is. You don't need to be a football savant to know that. He has been on my radar since 2021. The post wasn't meant to be taken overly seriously or to cause such a vitriolic reaction. I'll try harder to assume nobody has any sense of humor at all here moving forward.
Quote from: DaveBrown74 on October 22, 2023, 12:00:07 PMMy posting of it was not meant to be anything more than a lighthearted, non-serious jab for the rut he is in. It gave me a mild chuckle given it included a QB on a hated rival team of ours. I am fully aware of how talented a quarterback Caleb Williams is. You don't need to be a football savant to know that. He has been on my radar since 2021. The post wasn't meant to be taken overly seriously or to cause such a vitriolic reaction. I'll try harder to assume nobody has any sense of humor at all here moving forward.
Don't take it personally. My annoyance was directed at you but rather the chattering masses who love to try and tear down a great player instead of respecting that he is very likely to be the second two time Heisman trophy winner.
Quote from: madbadger on October 22, 2023, 12:31:34 PMDon't take it personally. My annoyance was directed at you but rather the chattering masses who love to try and tear down a great player instead of respecting that he is very likely to be the second two time Heisman trophy winner.
Fair enough and thank you for clarifying.
I will admit, the trope was not THAT funny. I honestly posted it more because of the Dak thing than anything else, but in any event it wasn't exactly Trading Places or Wedding Crashers on the humor scale.
And good point that people in general are too reactionary with the week to week QB stuff. I agree with that comment.
Barring something very unexpected, Williams is going number one in the draft. That was clear last season, it was clear in the offseason, and it is still clear today. I have said here that I don't think the Mahomes comparisons for him are off-base, and I still feel that way.
Quote from: DaveBrown74 on October 22, 2023, 12:36:49 PMFair enough and thank you for clarifying.
I will admit, the trope was not THAT funny. I honestly posted it more because of the Dak thing than anything else, but in any event it wasn't exactly Trading Places or Wedding Crashers on the humor scale.
And good point that people in general are too reactionary with the week to week QB stuff. I agree with that comment.
Barring something very unexpected, Williams is going number one in the draft. That was clear last season, it was clear in the offseason, and it is still clear today. I have said here that I don't think the Mahomes comparisons for him are off-base, and I still feel that way.
Just to clarify I mistakenly left not out. I meant to say not directed at you.
Quote from: madbadger on October 22, 2023, 12:50:50 PMJust to clarify I mistakenly left not out. I meant to say not directed at you.
Yup I totally got that. Thank you.
Quote from: Giant Jim on October 18, 2023, 06:08:23 PMMara can't, Tisch would then have full control. The Mara family's 50% is really like 51% as president John's decision breaks any ties.
I don't think this is true. The Mara family has exactly 50% and John represents that 50% and when he speaks, he also represents Tisch. That's an equilibrium that goes back many decades and it will not change now or probably ever.
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