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Title: Report - Giants not planning on trading Barkley
Post by: MightyGiants on October 21, 2023, 01:56:58 PM
https://x.com/nfl_dovkleiman/status/1715780986661675504?s=46&t=1vcQIN8GqF5J2oLdxEVEJQ
Title: Re: Report - Giants not planning on trading Barkley
Post by: brownelvis54 on October 21, 2023, 02:05:00 PM
If we don't trade him and let him walk, we get a 3rd round compensatory draft pick, right? Hard to see us getting anything higher than that this year? A 2nd round? I would take it...but I dont see that happening.
Title: Re: Report - Giants not planning on trading Barkley
Post by: EDjohnst1981 on October 21, 2023, 02:11:08 PM
Absolutely the right message in order to drive up any price.
Title: Re: Report - Giants not planning on trading Barkley
Post by: DaveBrown74 on October 21, 2023, 03:26:08 PM
Unless I am mistaken, if we were to receive a compensatory pick for him, it would be the 2025 draft, not 2024.
Title: Re: Report - Giants not planning on trading Barkley
Post by: spiderblue43 on October 21, 2023, 10:32:50 PM
He's obviously a favorite of Mara, and it's true they can receive compensation in the off-season but..it will be a stretch to see him back next year. Maybe teams will reach out with a good trade offer..but I tend to think he finishes this year in blue.
Title: Re: Report - Giants not planning on trading Barkley
Post by: H-Town G-Fan on October 22, 2023, 01:45:58 AM
Just a note, compensatory picks can be negated by signings the Giants make in the same off-season. So saying, "oh they'll get a 3rd round compensatory pick for Barkley so they shouldn't trade him for a 4th round pick" isn't really accurately addressing the situation (not calling out anyone here, but a position I've seen elsewhere).
Title: Re: Report - Giants not planning on trading Barkley
Post by: DaveBrown74 on October 22, 2023, 06:36:30 AM
Quote from: H-Town G-Fan on October 22, 2023, 01:45:58 AMJust a note, compensatory picks can be negated by signings the Giants make in the same off-season. So saying, "oh they'll get a 3rd round compensatory pick for Barkley so they shouldn't trade him for a 4th round pick" isn't really accurately addressing the situation (not calling out anyone here, but a position I've seen elsewhere).

Good point. They're not some guaranteed black and white thing.

With that said it's unclear that the Giants will be signing anyone substantial in this upcoming offseason.
Title: Re: Report - Giants not planning on trading Barkley
Post by: MightyGiants on October 22, 2023, 07:39:00 AM
Quote from: H-Town G-Fan on October 22, 2023, 01:45:58 AMJust a note, compensatory picks can be negated by signings the Giants make in the same off-season. So saying, "oh they'll get a 3rd round compensatory pick for Barkley so they shouldn't trade him for a 4th round pick" isn't really accurately addressing the situation (not calling out anyone here, but a position I've seen elsewhere).

That is an important point.  The Giants should have cap space this season and likely will be signing a few players.
Title: Re: Report - Giants not planning on trading Barkley
Post by: uconnjack8 on October 22, 2023, 07:42:21 AM
Quote from: DaveBrown74 on October 21, 2023, 03:26:08 PMUnless I am mistaken, if we were to receive a compensatory pick for him, it would be the 2025 draft, not 2024.

Correct and to put things into perspective on this: Currently the  3rd round compensatory picks for 2024 are projected to be for players that all signed for more than 17 mill/year.


Then there is the part of the formula for contribution in the 1st year if the contract.  So if an injury prone player misses significant time, the compensation goes down or disappears. 

Giants say they are not trading Barkley now, we shall see how the team performs the next two weeks which may have a significant impact on their feelings at the deadline.