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Panthers are a sh1t show. How long has been there?
He's a much better OC/QB Coach. He's not good as a HC.
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At this rate, he going to be paying more coaches than Mark Davis
The Panthers appear to be in significantly worse shape as a franchise than when Tepper purchased them. It has been one bad move after the next with that team.
Firing someone 11 games into his tenure is fairly extreme. I get that Tepper is unhappy with the performance, but how does he expect to attract quality candidates if he is that impatient?
He needs to put in an interim coach, fire the GM at the end of the season, and then hire a GM who has a coach in mind.
Make the GM fully responsible for everything. And then back the hell off yourself. That would be my advice to him. Being an NFL owner is not a vanity project for one to satisfy his massive ego. I feel like that is how he has treated this so far. And believe me, I am someone who has a lot of respect for his achievements in financial markets. I am always interested in what he has to say in that arena, as he has made some fantastic calls over the years and has enjoyed historic success. But I'm not impressed at all with the sheer hubris he has displayed as the owner of this franchise. I guess since we're all fans of a different team in the same conference, we should be content to just let this disaster continue.
Quote from: DaveBrown74 on November 27, 2023, 03:19:31 PMThe Panthers appear to be in significantly worse shape as a franchise than when Tepper purchased them. It has been one bad move after the next with that team.
Firing someone 11 games into his tenure is fairly extreme. I get that Tepper is unhappy with the performance, but how does he expect to attract quality candidates if he is that impatient?
He needs to put in an interim coach, fire the GM at the end of the season, and then hire a GM who has a coach in mind.
Make the GM fully responsible for everything. And then back the hell off yourself. That would be my advice to him. Being an NFL owner is not a vanity project for one to satisfy his massive ego. I feel like that is how he has treated this so far. And believe me, I am someone who has a lot of respect for his achievements in financial markets. I am always interested in what he has to say in that arena, as he has made some fantastic calls over the years and has enjoyed historic success. But I'm not impressed at all with the sheer hubris he has displayed as the owner of this franchise. I guess since we're all fans of a different team in the same conference, we should be content to just let this disaster continue.
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Quote from: MightyGiants on November 27, 2023, 03:40:37 PMhttps://x.com/ProFootballTalk/status/1729171743141720383?s=20
Pure hubris.
If you were the best zoologist in the world, would you think that meant you'd be a really good violinist too? Of course not.
Quote from: DaveBrown74 on November 27, 2023, 03:48:24 PMPure hubris.
If you were the best zoologist in the world, would you think that meant you'd be a really good violinist too? Of course not.
He reminds me of Dan Snyder. From what I have heard, Reich wanted to draft CJ Stroud but the owner wanted Bryce Young.
Quote from: MightyGiants on November 27, 2023, 03:49:32 PMHe reminds me of Dan Snyder. From what I have heard, Reich wanted to draft CJ Stroud but the owner wanted Bryce Young.
Which is insanity. You go against your football people, make the move you want, it doesn't work out, go on a profanity laced tirade and fire everyone.
Tepper makes Bidwell look like an Angel.
Quote from: TDToomer on November 27, 2023, 03:54:09 PMWhich is insanity. You go against your football people, make the move you want, it doesn't work out, go on a profanity laced tirade and fire everyone.
Tepper makes Bidwell look like an Angel.
Are there reports of Tepper treating people in an abusive manner? Big difference between firing people too quickly and openly abusing and harassing them, including in an allegedly "racially motivated" manner (according to one of the Bidwell accusers).
BTW I would note that many Giants fans have been wanting to fire Daboll for weeks now, despite him winning coach of the year last year. Reich didn't win coach of the year for the Panthers (or anyone) last year. I think you could very reasonable that all fans who want Daboll fired for this Giants' season are being much more knee-jerk than Tepper is, given Daboll has at least done some good here.
Tepper is a wahoo owner making terrible decisions. His Panthers are a complete joke. Who would want to take that job with real potential with that buffoon.
Yeah... someone will..of course..but great candidates will be tepid with Tepper.
Quote from: spiderblue43 on November 27, 2023, 10:37:14 PMTepper is a wahoo owner making terrible decisions. His Panthers are a complete joke. Who would want to take that job with real potential with that buffoon.
Yeah... someone will..of course..but great candidates will be tepid with Tepper.
I don't disagree, but I'm not sure we're in a position to be highly critical of any other organization right now. We've been a complete and utter laughingstock clown-show for a decade now and have fired multiple coaches and GMs as well. Tepper, while clearly guilty of doing an objectively terrible job so far, is still relatively new to this and might improve. Our guy seems pretty set in his ways.
Quote from: DaveBrown74 on November 27, 2023, 10:53:11 PMI don't disagree, but I'm not sure we're in a position to be highly critical of any other organization right now. We've been a complete and utter laughingstock clown-show for a decade now and have fired multiple coaches and GMs as well. Tepper, while clearly guilty of doing an objectively terrible job so far, is still relatively new to this and might improve. Our guy seems pretty set in his ways.
Dave,
Tepper is simply an awful example of bad ownership. However, I've always derided the Maras stewardship too. He isn't as obvious as Tepper but a lousy owner also (stadium included). :yes:
If Kafka is let go, would you consider hiring Reich as our OC ?
For Tepper to top himself now would be a challenge, but I have faith in his resolve. Not that I take this rumor seriously..
.but the Crazy Cats may be interested in hiring Greg Olsen..someone with zero coaching experience. Perhaps it's Olsen instead worried about being second fiddle to Brady next year on Fox. Hmmm
In any way..that would be the Cats Me-Wow! <:-P
Quote from: spiderblue43 on November 27, 2023, 11:19:26 PMDave,
Tepper is simply an awful example of bad ownership. However, I've always derided the Maras stewardship too. He isn't as obvious as Tepper but a lousy owner also (stadium included). :yes:
While Mara and Tepper may differ greatly as human beings, their common thread as owners appears to be that they both stubbornly believe they understand more about how to build and run a football team than they actually do, and as a result of that they choose to meddle more than they should.
Dave - Reich as our OC....in a new York {Giants] and a Maryland [Terrapins] minute. I was thinking the same thing at the top of this thread. IMO Kafka may be the sacrificial lamb this year. Jones is un-tradable. Wink has kept us in several games. OL or not, we are too predictable on offense. I could see this. As for Tepper, the dan snyder analogy may be correct.
Quote from: DaveBrown74 on November 27, 2023, 07:38:19 PMAre there reports of Tepper treating people in an abusive manner? Big difference between firing people too quickly and openly abusing and harassing them, including in an allegedly "racially motivated" manner (according to one of the Bidwell accusers).
You don't consider an owner going on a profanity laced tired as a prelude to firing people abusive? I didn't make up the story. It's out there.
Quote from: TDToomer on November 28, 2023, 02:30:44 PMYou don't consider an owner going on a profanity laced tired as a prelude to firing people abusive? I didn't make up the story. It's out there.
Didn't know he did that. I missed that part.
Yes, I do consider that abusive (to answer your question).
Quote from: President Rick on November 28, 2023, 08:58:33 AMDave - Reich as our OC....in a new York {Giants] and a Maryland [Terrapins] minute. I was thinking the same thing at the top of this thread. IMO Kafka may be the sacrificial lamb this year. Jones is un-tradable. Wink has kept us in several games. OL or not, we are too predictable on offense. I could see this. As for Tepper, the dan snyder analogy may be correct.
My first thought when hearing of Reich's firing. Do he and Daboll share a similar offensive philosophy? It would be bringing in another outside Giant world voice who would express Jones ain't doing it. You just have to know that Schoen/Daboll have had that conversation with Mara. Schoen/Daboll should have their own guy running the team. I liked what I saw from McCarthy against OSU. Made some tough throws, and was willing to do so. He plays in the elements, that's important if you plan on Nov-Jan football around here.