College football fans are going to go into shock next year when they see the "New" Syracuse Orange Football program (I hope I don't jinx them by propping them up)
Here's the changes made so far:
1) Head Coach Dino Babers fired, replaced by new HC Fran Brown (Georgia's Defensive Backs Coach). A local guy from New Jersey who was Georgia's recruiting ace (the number one recruiter in the nation for the past two years). He has brought three top players from Georgia with him through the transfer portal (two WRs, one OL)
2) New Offensive Coordinator: Jeff Nixon, NY Giants Running Backs coach
3) New Wide Receiver's coach and Passing Game Coordinator: Ross Dougland, New England Patriots WR coach
4) New Defensive Coordinator: Elijah Robinson, Texas A&M's assistant HC, Defensive Coordinator, and interim head coach
New Players:
1) Ohio State's junior QB Kyle McCord through the transfer portal...absolutely shocking OSU's fans and pundits. McCord replaced CJ Stroud, this past season and threw for 3,170 yards and 24 touchdowns in his 12 appearances in 2023
2) Some of the new players through the transfer portal: QB Kyle McCloud (Ohio State) of course; Safeties: Soph. Miles Farmer, Fr. Jaeden Gould, and Fr. WR Jalil Martin (all from Nebraska); Fr. CB Jayden Bellamy (Notre Dame); Fr. IOL David Wohlabaugh (UK); Fr. DL Braylen Ingraham (Alabama); the aforementioned Georgia players (WRs Yazeed Haynes and Jackson Meeks) and OL Joshua Miller, etc.
3) Highest rated recruiting class in the past 30 years signing commitments from multiple high profile programs, beating out the likes of the SEC and B1G recruiting machine, and several more elite players in the transfer portal contemplating coming to the Orange
4) Syracuse's top TE/WR Oronde Gadsden II (really just a WR, 6-5, 221 lbs) who was 1st team ACC and second-team preseason All-American this year at tight end by the Associated Press, just behind Georgia's Brock Bowers, after catching for 969 yards and 6 touchdowns in 2022, but sat out most of last year due to an injury, announced yesterday that he would forego the NFL draft and would come back for his senior year because of the excitement of where the team is heading
5) Strongest WR class in Syracuse history, and a packed RB class
Finally...maybe my hometown team will be back amongst the elite. I for one am excited :knockONwood:
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Must be no SU football fans on here :hmm: :(
Regardless, since I submitted that post yesterday, two more SU players who were slated for the NFL draft, have chosen to return for their senior year.
The tri-fecta of SU's NFL draft prospects have all decided to return for one more year. I mentioned their star WR (called TE, but a WR) Oronde Gadsden II was returning, but now their star LB Marlowe Wax (6-1/230) with 108 tackles, four forced fumbles, four sacks, and one interception this past season is returning. Also, the teams best DB (mostly safety, but also plays nickel and has lined up as a WILL) DB Justin Barron announced yesterday that he's returning
So, there will be no Syracuse players in the upcoming draft. Even if you don't follow Orange football - I believe they will be a team next season that will surprise a lot of people. For those of you who bet on football games, this is primo info...LOL
In addition to the previous info, Fadil Diggs...Texas A&M's leading DE/ER, has committed to SU. He is the younger brother of Dallas Cowboy's Trevon Diggs (Alabama alum)
I like you am excited about my college football team. I graduated from Ole Miss and they have truly owned the transfer portal this season.
#1 overall player Walter Nolen
#1 linebacker Poo Paul
#1 Edge Princely umanmerien
#2 Edge Tyler Baron
#2 Wr Juice Wells
#6 Safety Key Lawrence
Among other players and returning all the talent from this past season to go all in on a natty in 2024.
Quote from: Jclayton92 on December 28, 2023, 12:35:12 PMI like you am excited about my college football team. I graduated from Ole Miss and they have truly owned the transfer portal this season.
#1 overall player Walter Nolen
#1 linebacker Poo Paul
#1 Edge Princely umanmerien
#2 Edge Tyler Baron
#2 Wr Juice Wells
#6 Safety Key Lawrence
Among other players and returning all the talent from this past season to go all in on a natty in 2024.
I thought Princely declared :-??
Wouldn't that be a hoot for Ole Miss to win the SEC and SU win the ACC...Championship baby!! :laugh:
Well best of luck to your team. Looks like both our teams are setting up for a great season. Long time coming for this Orange fan
Quote from: Jolly Blue Giant on December 28, 2023, 10:13:07 AMMust be no SU football fans on here :hmm: :(
Regardless, since I submitted that post yesterday, two more SU players who were slated for the NFL draft, have chosen to return for their senior year.
The tri-fecta of SU's NFL draft prospects have all decided to return for one more year. I mentioned their star WR (called TE, but a WR) Oronde Gadsden II was returning, but now their star LB Marlowe Wax (6-1/230) with 108 tackles, four forced fumbles, four sacks, and one interception this past season is returning. Also, the teams best DB (mostly safety, but also plays nickel and has lined up as a WILL) DB Justin Barron announced yesterday that he's returning
So, there will be no Syracuse players in the upcoming draft. Even if you don't follow Orange football - I believe they will be a team next season that will surprise a lot of people. For those of you who bet on football games, this is primo info...LOL
In addition to the previous info, Fadil Diggs...Texas A&M's leading DE/ER, has committed to SU. He is the younger brother of Dallas Cowboy's Trevon Diggs (Alabama alum)
A little harder for me to watch SU football and basketball now that I'm out west. Never missed games on TV or occasionally in person when I lived in Endicott, but they've slipped from my consciousness out here. I'll try to make more of an effort to catch them when I can.
It's great to be excited about one's team, but I need to see it to believe it with Cuse football.
Glad there is passion for the 'Cuse sans Boeheim Saw a lot of McCord and he's solid if unspectacular. Surprised but not shocked he left the Buckeyes.
Unhappy campers :-?? in Columbus losing three in a row to Jim Boy
Quote from: spiderblue43 on December 28, 2023, 03:48:35 PMGlad there is passion for the 'Cuse sans Boeheim Saw a lot of McCord and he's solid if unspectacular. Surprised but not shocked he left the Buckeyes.
Unhappy campers :-?? in Columbus losing three in a row to Jim Boy
Actually, Boeheim was replaced months ago and the basketball team is playing well under Adrian "Red" Autry. They are moving away from the zone. But win or lose, there is always passion for the basketball team...not so much for the football team. There was excitement when Dino Babers took over the program six or seven years ago, but he never got it beyond mediocre. Under new HC Fran Brown, if the team goes on a win streak and knocks off some quality teams, the fan base will be back and stronger than ever and Orange fans will be rockin like the days of old when they had the likes of Jim Brown, Floyd Little, Larry Csonka, Dwight Freeny, Marvin Harrison, Tim Green, McNabb, etc.
Quote from: DaveBrown74 on December 28, 2023, 03:30:21 PMIt's great to be excited about one's team, but I need to see it to believe it with Cuse football.
BTW just to clarify what I meant by this post:
I in no way have a negative view of them. I'd like to see them do well. I don't really have an opinion, and I certainly respect yours, JBG. I know you're very well informed.
But since Cuse football has been mostly a mediocre program (as far as the power five goes) for a long time now, I just meant I can't get excited about them taking a big next step until I see them actually do it. I feel like there has been some false excitement with them under Babers on multiple occasions, only to see them ultimately disappoint. I hope it's different under the next regime.
Tough for the former Big Easters to compete to the level and quality they did back in the day in both basketball and football. UConn returning to the Big East in hoops elevated the league to being one of the top conferences for basketball. And brought them back to prominence.
Quote from: Jolly Blue Giant on December 28, 2023, 04:02:35 PMActually, Boeheim was replaced months ago and the basketball team is playing well under Adrian "Red" Autry. They are moving away from the zone. But win or lose, there is always passion for the basketball team...not so much for the football team. There was excitement when Dino Babers took over the program six or seven years ago, but he never got it beyond mediocre. Under new HC Fran Brown, if the team goes on a win streak and knocks off some quality teams, the fan base will be back and stronger than ever and Orange fans will be rockin like the days of old when they had the likes of Jim Brown, Floyd Little, Larry Csonka, Dwight Freeny, Marvin Harrison, Tim Green, McNabb, etc.
Don't forget the Jones kids at SU, Arthur and Chandler Jones. They also went to my, and our kid's, high school, UEHS. Arthur graduated with, and was good friends with our daughter. I don't think their brother Jon "Bones" Jones, MMA/UFC Champion, went to SU however.
The Cuse keeps getting good news. CB Duce Chestnut announced at the stroke of midnight last night, that he will transfer from LSU and return to the Orange. He left the Orange for LSU a year ago after being one of the best players in the ACC and wanted more media attention in the SEC for a better shot at the NFL. But he liked his old players and with the new coach and the hype, he wanted to be part of it
Nice New Year's Eve present for the Orange as CB was one area that could be improved
As for Jess's comment, I read this morning that the Orange has had the best haul of transfers of any team other than Mississippi (whether they meant Ole Miss or Mississippi St., they didn't say)
Quote from: Jolly Blue Giant on January 01, 2024, 11:52:53 AMThe Cuse keeps getting good news. CB Duce Chestnut announced at the stroke of midnight last night, that he will transfer from LSU and return to the Orange. He left the Orange for LSU a year ago after being one of the best players in the ACC and wanted more media attention in the SEC for a better shot at the NFL. But he liked his old players and with the new coach and the hype, he wanted to be part of it
Nice New Year's Eve present for the Orange as CB was one area that could be improved
As for Jess's comment, I read this morning that the Orange has had the best haul of transfers of any team other than Mississippi (whether they meant Ole Miss or Mississippi St., they didn't say)
Yeah Ole Miss, some people refuse to call them that and instead call them Mississippi.
Sorry to keep hammering on this thread, but last night the Orange picked up yet another player through the transfer portal, beating out a handful of the top schools in the nation
DL Dion "Tank" Wilson Jr., 6'5 /300lbs will join another transfer, Fadil Diggs (Texas A&M's best DL/ER player) on the defensive line of the Orange. SU's defensive line has gotten significantly bigger, faster, and more athletic
The "Tank"
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I just hope I'm not jinxing them by overreacting. The Orange has let me down many times in my life...especially the football team
Jolly
Where is Syracuse getting all the NIL money from?
Dumpster Dan
Quote from: Dumpster Dan on January 02, 2024, 10:14:16 AMJolly
Where is Syracuse getting all the NIL money from?
Dumpster Dan
I don't think it has anything to do with NIL money, but rather the new coach from the University of Georgia who was the nation's leading recruiter for the last several years. He's brought a lot of players from Georgia with him because he is that popular with the players. He also hails from New Jersey and was deeply involved with high school sports throughout the state and everyone knew him (including Ohio State's QB, Kyle McCord who was personal friends with Kyle's parents). Apparently he's some kind of recruiting guru. I just hope he coaches as well as he recruits
The big NIL provider for Syracuse has been billionaire Adam Weitsman (owner of the largest recycling and scrap metal processing company in the state, perhaps the northeast). Although, a few months ago there was an article that he would no longer be providing NIL money. I don't know if that is true or not :-?? He had paid significant money to the basketball program in the last couple of years and is a huge Orange fan
https://dailyorange.com/2023/04/adam-weitsman-to-no-longer-provide-nil-opportunities-at-syracuse/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAsfDQOf9-4
Quote from: Jolly Blue Giant on January 02, 2024, 10:30:41 AMI don't think it has anything to do with NIL money, but rather the new coach from the University of Georgia who was the nation's leading recruiter for the last several years. He's brought a lot of players from Georgia with him because he is that popular with the players. He also hails from New Jersey and was deeply involved with high school sports throughout the state and everyone knew him (including Ohio State's QB, Kyle McCord who was personal friends with Kyle's parents). Apparently he's some kind of recruiting guru. I just hope he coaches as well as he recruits
The big NIL provider for Syracuse has been billionaire Adam Weitsman (owner of the largest recycling and scrap metal processing company in the state, perhaps the northeast). Although, a few months ago there was an article that he would no longer be providing NIL money. I don't know if that is true or not :-?? He had paid significant money to the basketball program in the last couple of years and is a huge Orange fan
https://dailyorange.com/2023/04/adam-weitsman-to-no-longer-provide-nil-opportunities-at-syracuse/
Jolly
Its always about the money
Dumpster Dan
Quote from: Dumpster Dan on January 02, 2024, 01:22:06 PMJolly
Its always about the money
Dumpster Dan
Okay Dan...got some information on NIL providers. Adam Weitsman is still out. He's unhappy with SU's Athletic Director who told him he can't bring celebrities to games. He's holding out until the AD is fired. But there's a group of money folks who are not billionaires, but have formed a "gang" for lack of a better word. They have not been providing NIL money to the football program as they did not like Dino Babers and the way he ran the team. They have been pouring in money since the day Babers was fired. One source says that Kyle McCloud is getting 600k of NIL money, but aren't saying what the others have gotten
So yeah...to your point...money talks and teams at the forefront of sports have a lot of NIL providers and it certainly effects decision making by athletes
:knockONwood:
Jolly College sports has changed drastically
Dumpster Dan
Man Ole Miss got every player in the portal but Quinshon Judkins just hopped in the portal.
Quote from: Jclayton92 on January 04, 2024, 06:10:26 PMMan Ole Miss got every player in the portal but Quinshon Judkins just hopped in the portal.
Hmmm...he might look good in orange, LOL
SU does have a history of good running backs like Jim Brown, Joe Morris, Larry Csonka, Floyd Little, Ernie Davis, Jim Nance, etc
Quote from: Jolly Blue Giant on January 04, 2024, 06:29:07 PMHmmm...he might look good in orange, LOL
SU does have a history of good running backs like Jim Brown, Joe Morris, Larry Csonka, Floyd Little, Ernie Davis, Jim Nance, etc
Yeah called around and found out that he has a "team" like 5 people around him that are making decisions for him and being on a top 5 team with multiple early picks at Wr, TE, and QB Will take too much attention away from him. The Qb and the oline went to kiffin and asked them to let him go. He had already signed his NIL for next season at 1.2 million and kiffin told him to seek another home. The best RB arguably in college, wild.
Quote from: Jclayton92 on January 04, 2024, 08:47:38 PMYeah called around and found out that he has a "team" like 5 people around him that are making decisions for him and being on a top 5 team with multiple early picks at Wr, TE, and QB Will take too much attention away from him. The Qb and the oline went to kiffin and asked them to let him go. He had already signed his NIL for next season at 1.2 million and kiffin told him to seek another home. The best RB arguably in college, wild.
If that's the case, he should seek a team that has a great offensive line for rushing and a coach who believes in a run-first strategy...that is, if he's seeking high recognition as a premier RB in the future draft. I'm sure his handlers have already figured that out
Quote from: Jolly Blue Giant on January 05, 2024, 08:12:25 AMIf that's the case, he should seek a team that has a great offensive line for rushing and a coach who believes in a run-first strategy...that is, if he's seeking high recognition as a premier RB in the future draft. I'm sure his handlers have already figured that out
That's the weird thing, Kiffin despite people thinking he just chunks the ball around is a run first coach. It's why Judkins broke all those records to begin with.
Quote from: Jclayton92 on January 05, 2024, 10:21:37 AMThat's the weird thing, Kiffin despite people thinking he just chunks the ball around is a run first coach. It's why Judkins broke all those records to begin with.
Jess, looks like a decision will be made today when a highly touted DB (Marcellus Barnes Jr.) will announce his decision on which school he will commit. Interesting because it appears that it's coming down to Syracuse or Ole Miss by the sounds of things. I'd wish you luck, but "nahh"...LOL
https://syracuse.rivals.com/news/four-star-db-marcellus-barnes-jr-previews-his-upcoming-commitment
And Barnes picks...drum roll...Syracuse! https://uga.rivals.com/news/syracuse-lands-a-commitment-from-four-star-db-marcellus-barnes-jr-
Quote from: Jolly Blue Giant on January 06, 2024, 01:36:37 PMAnd Barnes picks...drum roll...Syracuse! https://uga.rivals.com/news/syracuse-lands-a-commitment-from-four-star-db-marcellus-barnes-jr-
congrats, I'm all for ole miss to grab oline help and a rb right now so db wasn't on my radar.
And the hits just keep rolling in. Last night, Michael Nwokocha, 6-5/305 lb defensive lineman, announced that he has chosen Syracuse over a dozen other programs vying for his services including Georgia, Arizona State, Houston, Indiana, Mississippi State, Oklahoma, Purdue, TCU, Tennessee, West Virginia, Oregon, and others. He was the no.1 JUCO player in the transfer portal and 14th overall. He'll join Fadill Diggs (no 3 in the overall transfer portal) on the defensive line. SU beat out Alabama for Diggs services for the next.
Syracuse's biggest weakness, over the years, is a less than adequate trench. They get an occasional star, but one person cannot run the whole line. They have added several major players to both the offensive line and the defensive line. The trench should be the best it's been in many years
Hard not to get excited about my team that has floundered for the last couple of decades. I'm afraid to get my hopes up, but it really seems as if they are building a solid program from the ground up with their new coach, Fran Brown