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Title: NGT: Vic Fangio new Eagles DC
Post by: ozzie on January 24, 2024, 07:43:59 PM
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/howie-roseman-nick-sirianni-and-eagles-finally-hire-preferred-defensive-coordinator/ar-BB1hcZ9K?ocid=socialshare&cvid=790b06ccc10a4c4db89ca9c4215ab4f9&ei=8 (https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/howie-roseman-nick-sirianni-and-eagles-finally-hire-preferred-defensive-coordinator/ar-BB1hcZ9K?ocid=socialshare&cvid=790b06ccc10a4c4db89ca9c4215ab4f9&ei=8)
Title: Re: Vic Fangio new Eagles DC
Post by: killarich on January 24, 2024, 07:51:54 PM
Damn
Title: Re: Vic Fangio new Eagles DC
Post by: DaveBrown74 on January 24, 2024, 08:00:40 PM
Not shocked.

At least it's not Wink.
Title: Re: Vic Fangio new Eagles DC
Post by: ozzie on January 24, 2024, 08:08:08 PM
I read the headline and thought for sure it was going to be Wink!
Title: Re: Vic Fangio new Eagles DC
Post by: Ed Vette on January 24, 2024, 11:02:24 PM
Quote from: ozzie on January 24, 2024, 08:08:08 PMI read the headline and thought for sure it was going to be Wink!
They didn't want him.
Title: Re: NGT: Vic Fangio new Eagles DC
Post by: T200 on January 25, 2024, 07:16:23 AM
Quote from: Ed Vette on January 24, 2024, 11:02:24 PMThey didn't want him.
What?!?  :surprise:  :surprise:
Title: Re: NGT: Vic Fangio new Eagles DC
Post by: Trench on January 25, 2024, 08:17:12 AM
So what is taking us so long?
Title: Re: NGT: Vic Fangio new Eagles DC
Post by: uconnjack8 on January 25, 2024, 08:21:23 AM
Not sure I think it's better they got Fangio over Wink. 

Either way they probably got a DC upgrade.
Title: Re: NGT: Vic Fangio new Eagles DC
Post by: Ed Vette on January 25, 2024, 08:23:01 AM
Quote from: Trench on January 25, 2024, 08:17:12 AMSo what is taking us so long?
Maybe they want a position coach on a playoff team. Or they are in negotiations with someone.

Makes me wonder if they really wanted to get rid of Wink if they didn't have a plan to replace him.

Or they promote within and replace that Coach. I would think that would be easy.
Title: Re: NGT: Vic Fangio new Eagles DC
Post by: Trench on January 25, 2024, 09:01:22 AM
Quote from: Ed Vette on January 25, 2024, 08:23:01 AMMaybe they want a position coach on a playoff team. Or they are in negotiations with someone.

Makes me wonder if they really wanted to get rid of Wink if they didn't have a plan to replace him.

Or they promote within and replace that Coach. I would think that would be easy.

Excellent points
Title: Re: NGT: Vic Fangio new Eagles DC
Post by: MightyGiants on January 25, 2024, 10:14:48 AM
Now we know how our division rivals felt when the Giants were able to land Wink Martindale
Title: Re: NGT: Vic Fangio new Eagles DC
Post by: Bob In PA on January 25, 2024, 10:56:53 AM
Quote from: uconnjack8 on January 25, 2024, 08:21:23 AMNot sure I think it's better they got Fangio over Wink. 

Either way they probably got a DC upgrade.

Uconn: I agree.  Also, Fangio is a good man (unlike the guy he'll be working for  =)) ). Bob
Title: Re: NGT: Vic Fangio new Eagles DC
Post by: Stringer Bell on January 25, 2024, 11:04:23 AM
Quote from: Ed Vette on January 24, 2024, 11:02:24 PMThey didn't want him.

Maybe teams aren't tripping over themselves to sign an insubordinate coordinator who goes rogue on his head coach. Maybe Daboll was justified in his treatment of Wink.
Title: Re: NGT: Vic Fangio new Eagles DC
Post by: T200 on January 25, 2024, 11:16:30 AM
Quote from: Stringer Bell on January 25, 2024, 11:04:23 AMMaybe teams aren't tripping over themselves to sign an insubordinate coordinator who goes rogue on his head coach. Maybe Daboll was justified in his treatment of Wink.
I agree with your first sentence, not so much the second.

Daboll needs to be better in his interpersonal communication. But Wink's issue is much harder for him. As you said, not many people are going to want to bring in someone to work for them who has a history of insubordination, behaving poorly when he doesn't get his way, and ghosting his employer.

Neither Daboll nor Wink had saintly roles in the split. But Daboll has hired two coaches so far and Wink is still unemployed.
Title: Re: NGT: Vic Fangio new Eagles DC
Post by: MightyGiants on January 25, 2024, 11:18:22 AM
Quote from: Trench on January 25, 2024, 08:17:12 AMSo what is taking us so long?

One possibility could be that the Giants' first choice is the Ravens' Dennard Wilson, who is still in the playoffs.  Plus, it's possible the Ravens could lose their DC, and Wilson might prefer that job to the Giants' position.

Dennard Wilson was the guy the Eagles let go (much to the player's chagrin) when they hired now fired Sean Desai.  Wilson went to the Ravens and boosted the play of their secondary.  Wilson is a gamble (as all promotional hires are) but he might prove to be a find.
Title: Re: NGT: Vic Fangio new Eagles DC
Post by: Puffy on January 25, 2024, 11:20:31 AM
Quote from: DaveBrown74 on January 24, 2024, 08:00:40 PMNot shocked.

At least it's not Wink.

Fangio is a way better DC than Wink, IMO.
Title: Re: NGT: Vic Fangio new Eagles DC
Post by: Stringer Bell on January 25, 2024, 11:22:58 AM
Quote from: T200 on January 25, 2024, 11:16:30 AMI agree with your first sentence, not so much the second.

Daboll needs to be better in his interpersonal communication.

Both can be true at the same time. Daboll needs to improve and was justified in Wink's case.
Title: Re: NGT: Vic Fangio new Eagles DC
Post by: MightyGiants on January 25, 2024, 11:23:56 AM
For those who are interested.  Wink had a 2-day interview for the Jags DC job but lost out to the Falcon's former DC Ryan Nielsen, who is a young up-and-comer.  I suspect Wink would have liked that job, as he has a home near the Jags.

There are still head coaches to be hired, so Wink might still have a shot, but it looks like Wink giving up the $3 million-plus for his freedom may prove to be a costly decision.  Drama like the Giants suffered tends to stain all involved.
Title: Re: NGT: Vic Fangio new Eagles DC
Post by: DaveBrown74 on January 25, 2024, 11:51:54 AM
Quote from: MightyGiants on January 25, 2024, 11:23:56 AMFor those who are interested.  Wink had a 2-day interview for the Jags DC job but lost out to the Falcon's former DC Ryan Nielsen, who is a young up-and-comer.  I suspect Wink would have liked that job, as he has a home near the Jags.

There are still head coaches to be hired, so Wink might still have a shot, but it looks like Wink giving up the $3 million-plus for his freedom may prove to be a costly decision.  Drama like the Giants suffered tends to stain all involved.

Interesting. I would have thought Wink would have gotten snapped up pretty quickly. That doesn't appear to be exactly the case so far. Dallas is still a possibility (I assume Quinn won't resign until he has a contract signed for a head coaching job).

Title: Re: NGT: Vic Fangio new Eagles DC
Post by: MightyGiants on January 25, 2024, 11:53:38 AM
Quote from: DaveBrown74 on January 25, 2024, 11:51:54 AMInteresting. I would have thought Wink would have gotten snapped up pretty quickly. That doesn't appear to be exactly the case so far. Dallas is still a possibility (I assume Quinn won't resign until he has a contract signed for a head coaching job).

I agree; if Quinn gets a head coaching job, I would see Wink as a good choice to replace him.