DC info:
- Shane Bowen, Titan's DC - connected to Giants through GM executive advisor Ryan Cowden. Titan's kept him on as DC right up until announcing the Wilson hire, so there was no second interview. Started as OLB coach.
- Jerome Henderson, Giants DB coach - has had that role with a few teams since 2008. Only noteworthy assistant coach to be kept on by Daboll from previous staff.
- Anthony Campanile, Dolphins' LB coach - he's a true local guy. Grew up in NJ, went to Rutgers, coached at Don Bosco. Then went on to BC, Michigan, and finally Miami.
- Brendan Daly, Chiefs' LB coach - his season is still going of course, so the Giants can still get a second interview if they want up until this Sunday but for the week leading up to the SB (and day after) no more meetings can be made, and no announcements until after the season is over. He's working under Spags now.
Are the other four who have interviewed.
Ejiro Evero - Panthers' DC who they blocked from other DC interviews (did have one HC interview), including the Giants, prior to HC being named but there are questions if they will allow them now.
Thanks for doing this. It really helps those of us who have limited time on here to keep track. Bob
Damn at this point I wouldn't mind Rivera .... Did he go anywhere ?
We really lost out on the big names and up and coming
I want a proven experienced DC or former HC and someone who can develop his replacement.
Daboll to make a decision by the end of the week.
https://nypost.com/2024/02/01/sports/jerome-henderson-among-giants-top-options-for-defensive-coordinator/amp/
Quote from: Ed Vette on February 02, 2024, 08:32:48 AMDaboll to make a decision by the end of the week.
https://nypost.com/2024/02/01/sports/jerome-henderson-among-giants-top-options-for-defensive-coordinator/amp/
Ed: The foot-dragging seems to strongly favor Henderson (the "no hurry" candidate).
I assume we haven't offered the job to anyone who turned us down.
I think that's a fair assumption because this stuff almost always leaks to the media.
Bob
Quote from: Bob In PA on February 02, 2024, 09:11:34 AMEd: The foot-dragging seems to strongly favor Henderson (the "no hurry" approach).
I assume we haven't offered the job to anyone who turned us down.
I think that's a fair assumption because this stuff almost always leaks to the media.
Bob
Bob,
Coaches (like players) don't like to burn bridges. So it usually is years before we learn about a coach turning down another team's offer.
Quote from: Bob In PA on February 02, 2024, 09:11:34 AMEd: The foot-dragging seems to strongly favor Henderson (the "no hurry" candidate).
I assume we haven't offered the job to anyone who turned us down.
I think that's a fair assumption because this stuff almost always leaks to the media.
Bob
I think so too. It's a strong possibility it's Henderson. But why wait to decide? Contract negotiations? That's not on Daboll.
@Bob In PA does this qualify?
https://x.com/RapSheet/status/1753429805159326104?s=20
We know Paul Schwartz acts is the Giants' mouthpiece, so it's interesting that he is touting Henderson
https://nypost.com/2024/02/01/sports/jerome-henderson-among-giants-top-options-for-defensive-coordinator/?utm_campaign=iphone_nyp&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social
I heard on talk radio that the Cowboys are considering Mike Zimmer for DC. IMHO he was a good coach who almost always got to the playoffs and had decent defenses.
Quote from: MightyGiants on February 02, 2024, 09:51:08 AMdoes this qualify?
Rich: If the job was offered to him and he turned us down, then it does. I must have missed it in the media. Bob
I want Co DCs with Jerome Henderson covering the back and Patterson covering the front.
Are we done looking at other candidates then if they have to make a choice by the end of the week ?
I think that's a mistake if that's the case .... Still other candidates out there that are better then the ones who are left from the interviews
I don't think Rivera is a great coach or a bad one ..... wanted a young and up and comer ....but the remaining crap is bleh ..... at least give him a call
https://x.com/TomPelissero/status/1753552722630971624?s=20
Crystal clear that Schoen got outmaneuvered....now it's on him
Quote from: Trench on February 03, 2024, 12:19:23 AMCrystal clear that Schoen got outmaneuvered....now it's on him
In fairness, the Giants were in a very weak position:
1) Coordinators prefer to come in with the new HC so they know they have at least 2 or 3 seasons
2) The disaster that was the Wink departure (regardless of how fans feel or spin it) has made jobs working under Daboll less attractive
3) Even before all of that, the cost of living (and taxes) and the salaries NYG pays made the assistant coaching jobs at NYG, not the most attractive
What exactly does an assistant head coach do? Both during games and during the week?
Quote from: DaveBrown74 on February 03, 2024, 08:32:43 AMWhat exactly does an assistant head coach do? Both during games and during the week?
From what I can see from the outside looking in, it's more of an honorary title than anything. I guess the title can bring a few more responsibilities, but that varies on a case-by-case basis.
Quote from: MightyGiants on February 03, 2024, 08:34:21 AMFrom what I can see from the outside looking in, it's more of an honorary title than anything. I guess the title can bring a few more responsibilities, but that varies on a case-by-case basis.
Agreed.
He's not the boss, he isn't making fourth down or timeout or challenge decisions, and he isn't calling plays or in charge of any unit. He can be an advisor to the head coach and can have a good relationship with the players, and he can help in strategy meetings with gameplanning and just providing general insights, but it doesn't seem like that big of a job to me. It certainly seems like a lesser role than his previous one of defensive coordinator.
One consideration is that in the event that he got hired away to a HC role in a future year, the Seahawks might get picks for that given he is a minority. I'm not sure if that rule applies to "assistant head coaches", but it very well might. So if it does, there is an outside chance of that being a possibility too I guess.
Wink is still out there :what: /sarcasm/
Quote from: Woody on February 03, 2024, 09:20:38 AMWink is still out there :what: /sarcasm/
It is kind of interesting that Wink still hasn't been hired. There are still openings though, like Dallas.
Quote from: DaveBrown74 on February 03, 2024, 09:22:22 AMIt is kind of interesting that Wink still hasn't been hired. There are still openings though, like Dallas.
While the drama has no doubt hurt the Giants during the hiring process, it also sullied Wink's reputation as well.
Quote from: MightyGiants on February 03, 2024, 09:25:33 AMWhile the drama has no doubt hurt the Giants during the hiring process, it also sullied Wink's reputation as well.
Agreed.
While I have no ill will towards Wink and hope he gets a job he's happy with, the harder a time he has getting hired, the better (or less bad) a look this whole episode will be for Daboll.
Quote from: DaveBrown74 on February 03, 2024, 09:37:29 AMAgreed.
While I have no ill will towards Wink and hope he gets a job he's happy with, the harder a time he has getting hired, the better (or less bad) a look this whole episode will be for Daboll.
I am not sure Wink struggling to get another job will help Daboll's image any. Daboll's issues that were exposed will not be made better by Wink's fate. Winning and demonstrated improvement by Daboll will.
If the Giants do not make a hire for a DC this week , it tells me that now their first choice is Brendan Daly
Pat Traina (I think it was Pat) I heard it on her podcast) had another reason the Giants DC position is less attractive. The Giants have most of the defensive staff in place, it's not like the new DC will be able to hire his own staff.
Patti's point is valid. We have fairly reliable info from the more reliable beat writers that the Giants value and want to keep their key D coaches. This means any new DC potentially only gets two meaningful hires, the vacant OLB coach and a personal assistant if they want one. Any DC coming in probably has several guys they ideally want to bring. Would we sacrifice eg Henderson or Patterson to accommodate them?