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Title: Tyrod could be back
Post by: MightyGiants on February 02, 2024, 11:26:05 AM
Considering this reporter reports what the Giants want to be reported, it's worth noting


https://x.com/GiantInsider/status/1753454152116519261?s=20
Title: Re: Tyrod could be back
Post by: Ed Vette on February 02, 2024, 12:21:58 PM
I'm sure he will. With his injury history however, that might lower his market value at his age. He might get it with a team drafting a QB who needs a mentor but 5 MM is steep. I'd rather have him than Tommy DeVito.
Title: Re: Tyrod could be back
Post by: DaveBrown74 on February 03, 2024, 12:06:54 AM
Best QB on the team last year, and he is familiar with the system. I don't see why it wouldn't be at least a consideration.
Title: Re: Tyrod could be back
Post by: Brooklyn Dave on February 03, 2024, 03:23:18 AM
I would prefer Gardner Minshew
Title: Re: Tyrod could be back
Post by: MightyGiants on February 03, 2024, 07:55:06 AM
Quote from: DaveBrown74 on February 03, 2024, 12:06:54 AMBest QB on the team last year, and he is familiar with the system. I don't see why it wouldn't be at least a consideration.

I would say the reason you wouldn't consider him is Taylor's glaring inability to stay healthy even for just a series
Title: Re: Tyrod could be back
Post by: DaveBrown74 on February 03, 2024, 08:30:22 AM
Quote from: MightyGiants on February 03, 2024, 07:55:06 AMI would say the reason you wouldn't consider him is Taylor's glaring inability to stay healthy even for just a series

That is certainly the reason why I would prefer to look elsewhere. In the unlikely event that we draft a rookie who is projected to start in 2024 (either right away or at some point during the season), I'd be more open to Taylor. If we're just running it back with Jones and DeVito again and we need a stable veteran, then forget it.
Title: Re: Tyrod could be back
Post by: MightyGiants on February 03, 2024, 08:37:19 AM
Quote from: DaveBrown74 on February 03, 2024, 08:30:22 AMThat is certainly the reason why I would prefer to look elsewhere. In the unlikely event that we draft a rookie who is projected to start in 2024 (either right away or at some point during the season), I'd be more open to Taylor. If we're just running it back with Jones and DeVito again and we need a stable veteran, then forget it.

The challenge, from the Giants' perspective, is that free agency occurs before the draft.  So it's tough to sign the sort of FA QB you feel bet fits the situation without knowing how the draft shakes out.  Although, it seems to me that all FA QBs are snatched up right away, and there usually are a few serviceable ones still available post-draft.
Title: Re: Tyrod could be back
Post by: DaveBrown74 on February 03, 2024, 08:52:27 AM
Quote from: MightyGiants on February 03, 2024, 08:37:19 AMThe challenge, from the Giants' perspective, is that free agency occurs before the draft.  So it's tough to sign the sort of FA QB you feel bet fits the situation without knowing how the draft shakes out.  Although, it seems to me that all FA QBs are snatched up right away, and there usually are a few serviceable ones still available post-draft.

That's true, and it's a good point.

I don't really want Taylor back for the same reasons you don't. I actually think the front office agrees. I remember in one of the press conferences Schoen said something like "we'll certainly consider him", and it kind of came across that their real feeling was the opposite of that.
Title: Re: Tyrod could be back
Post by: MightyGiants on February 03, 2024, 09:04:26 AM
Quote from: DaveBrown74 on February 03, 2024, 08:52:27 AMThat's true, and it's a good point.

I don't really want Taylor back for the same reasons you don't. I actually think the front office agrees. I remember in one of the press conferences Schoen said something like "we'll certainly consider him", and it kind of came across that their real feeling was the opposite of that.

Outside of the Ronnie Barnes discussion if our GM cared a bit more about how injury prone a player is, maybe we wouldn't always be leading the league in injuries
Title: Re: Tyrod could be back
Post by: DaveBrown74 on February 03, 2024, 09:14:46 AM
Quote from: MightyGiants on February 03, 2024, 09:04:26 AMOutside of the Ronnie Barnes discussion if our GM cared a bit more about how injury prone a player is, maybe we wouldn't always be leading the league in injuries

So much for tough, smart, and DEPENDABLE.
Title: Re: Tyrod could be back
Post by: Giant Obsession on February 04, 2024, 10:40:13 PM
GREAT.

Daniel Jones back.

Tyrod back.

HC Sparky back.

Where do I get in line for my medium Pepsi.
Title: Re: Tyrod could be back
Post by: T200 on February 05, 2024, 09:47:13 AM
I think it's a smoke screen.

The Giants currently have 3 QBs on their roster. Surely they're not going to draft a 4th QB.

Or are they???
Title: Re: Tyrod could be back
Post by: DaveBrown74 on February 05, 2024, 09:13:07 PM
Quote from: T200 on February 05, 2024, 09:47:13 AMThe Giants currently have 3 QBs on their roster.

But zero good ones.
Title: Re: Tyrod could be back
Post by: MightyGiants on February 06, 2024, 08:31:43 AM
Quote from: DaveBrown74 on February 05, 2024, 09:13:07 PMBut zero good ones.

They have one good but injury-prone one.
Title: Re: Tyrod could be back
Post by: DaveBrown74 on February 10, 2024, 01:16:40 PM
Quote from: MightyGiants on February 06, 2024, 08:31:43 AMThey have one good but injury-prone one.

Who? Tyrod?
Title: Re: Tyrod could be back
Post by: MightyGiants on February 10, 2024, 02:02:00 PM
Quote from: DaveBrown74 on February 10, 2024, 01:16:40 PMWho? Tyrod?

Tyrod is a good backup.

As for Daniel Jones, I know you and others here don't like him, but Phil Simms (who knows a thing or two about QBs) had this to say about him

"He definitely has starting NFL talent," he said. "That's the one thing I'll argue against as long as you want."

https://giantswire.usatoday.com/2024/02/08/phil-simms-believes-new-york-giants-should-show-patience-daniel-jones/?taid=65c78f8470a0d90001c89b34&utm_campaign=trueanthem&utm_medium=trueanthem&utm_source=twitter
Title: Re: Tyrod could be back
Post by: BluesCruz on February 10, 2024, 02:04:38 PM
the guy must be getting flyers from AARP by now

he is old and fragile, not to mention the cement head audible to run Barkley on the goal line

THEN run Barkley to the right on the goal line in another game and throw it at the middle of his backside in another game losing catastrophe

I would not trust his judgement to be a crossing guard

Why would we want to play Tommy who won 3 games
threw 8 TD passes in 5 starts and only 2 INTs despite a propensity to throw the ball long?

I like Tyrod but he is expensive and will likley get hurt on the opening day 1st drive....much like Aaron Rodgers

I give up :doh:
Title: Re: Tyrod could be back
Post by: BluesCruz on February 10, 2024, 02:08:15 PM
Quote from: MightyGiants on February 10, 2024, 02:02:00 PMTyrod is a good backup.

As for Daniel Jones, I know you and others here don't like him, but Phil Simms (who knows a thing or two about QBs) had this to say about him

"He definitely has starting NFL talent," he said. "That's the one thing I'll argue against as long as you want."

https://giantswire.usatoday.com/2024/02/08/phil-simms-believes-new-york-giants-should-show-patience-daniel-jones/?taid=65c78f8470a0d90001c89b34&utm_campaign=trueanthem&utm_medium=trueanthem&utm_source=twitter

Simms has a virtual love affair with Penix and I dont see anyone boarding his train on that one. Good QB, questionable QB appeciation

Having said that I like Penix too but I only really watched him in the Semi Final game

Michigan was a slaughter
Title: Re: Tyrod could be back
Post by: DaveBrown74 on February 10, 2024, 02:11:25 PM
Quote from: MightyGiants on February 10, 2024, 02:02:00 PMTyrod is a good backup.

As for Daniel Jones, I know you and others here don't like him, but Phil Simms (who knows a thing or two about QBs) had this to say about him

"He definitely has starting NFL talent," he said. "That's the one thing I'll argue against as long as you want."

https://giantswire.usatoday.com/2024/02/08/phil-simms-believes-new-york-giants-should-show-patience-daniel-jones/?taid=65c78f8470a0d90001c89b34&utm_campaign=trueanthem&utm_medium=trueanthem&utm_source=twitter

When you say that I don't like him, you make it sound like it's personal. That is not fair at all if that's what you mean. I have done nothing but praise his character traits. I don't think he's a particularly good QB, but that doesn't mean I don't like him.

Anyway, as I have stated a couple of times in the last several weeks I'm done with the Jones debates for the most part. After five years of it, it's just not a topic I find particularly interesting or controversial anymore. My firm view is we very much need a new young QB on this team, even though I know it's very possible that may not happen in this offseason. I will leave it there.
Title: Re: Tyrod could be back
Post by: spiderblue43 on February 10, 2024, 02:41:09 PM
Quote from: DaveBrown74 on February 10, 2024, 01:16:40 PMWho? Tyrod?

Tyrod, yes. Was better (Cutlets too) than the godawful DJ, probably the worst starting qb last year. Backups around the league outplayed him... Flacco off his couch..etc.
Title: Re: Tyrod could be back
Post by: brownelvis54 on February 10, 2024, 10:23:19 PM
Quote from: Ed Vette on February 02, 2024, 12:21:58 PMI'm sure he will. With his injury history however, that might lower his market value at his age. He might get it with a team drafting a QB who needs a mentor but 5 MM is steep. I'd rather have him than Tommy DeVito.

Ed, Jake Browning, Joshua Dobbs, Gardner Minshew or kick the tires on Sam Darnold....might be better options