Considering this reporter reports what the Giants want to be reported, it's worth noting
https://x.com/GiantInsider/status/1753454152116519261?s=20
I'm sure he will. With his injury history however, that might lower his market value at his age. He might get it with a team drafting a QB who needs a mentor but 5 MM is steep. I'd rather have him than Tommy DeVito.
Best QB on the team last year, and he is familiar with the system. I don't see why it wouldn't be at least a consideration.
I would prefer Gardner Minshew
Quote from: DaveBrown74 on February 03, 2024, 12:06:54 AMBest QB on the team last year, and he is familiar with the system. I don't see why it wouldn't be at least a consideration.
I would say the reason you wouldn't consider him is Taylor's glaring inability to stay healthy even for just a series
Quote from: MightyGiants on February 03, 2024, 07:55:06 AMI would say the reason you wouldn't consider him is Taylor's glaring inability to stay healthy even for just a series
That is certainly the reason why I would prefer to look elsewhere. In the unlikely event that we draft a rookie who is projected to start in 2024 (either right away or at some point during the season), I'd be more open to Taylor. If we're just running it back with Jones and DeVito again and we need a stable veteran, then forget it.
Quote from: DaveBrown74 on February 03, 2024, 08:30:22 AMThat is certainly the reason why I would prefer to look elsewhere. In the unlikely event that we draft a rookie who is projected to start in 2024 (either right away or at some point during the season), I'd be more open to Taylor. If we're just running it back with Jones and DeVito again and we need a stable veteran, then forget it.
The challenge, from the Giants' perspective, is that free agency occurs before the draft. So it's tough to sign the sort of FA QB you feel bet fits the situation without knowing how the draft shakes out. Although, it seems to me that all FA QBs are snatched up right away, and there usually are a few serviceable ones still available post-draft.
Quote from: MightyGiants on February 03, 2024, 08:37:19 AMThe challenge, from the Giants' perspective, is that free agency occurs before the draft. So it's tough to sign the sort of FA QB you feel bet fits the situation without knowing how the draft shakes out. Although, it seems to me that all FA QBs are snatched up right away, and there usually are a few serviceable ones still available post-draft.
That's true, and it's a good point.
I don't really want Taylor back for the same reasons you don't. I actually think the front office agrees. I remember in one of the press conferences Schoen said something like "we'll certainly consider him", and it kind of came across that their real feeling was the opposite of that.
Quote from: DaveBrown74 on February 03, 2024, 08:52:27 AMThat's true, and it's a good point.
I don't really want Taylor back for the same reasons you don't. I actually think the front office agrees. I remember in one of the press conferences Schoen said something like "we'll certainly consider him", and it kind of came across that their real feeling was the opposite of that.
Outside of the Ronnie Barnes discussion if our GM cared a bit more about how injury prone a player is, maybe we wouldn't always be leading the league in injuries
Quote from: MightyGiants on February 03, 2024, 09:04:26 AMOutside of the Ronnie Barnes discussion if our GM cared a bit more about how injury prone a player is, maybe we wouldn't always be leading the league in injuries
So much for tough, smart, and
DEPENDABLE.
GREAT.
Daniel Jones back.
Tyrod back.
HC Sparky back.
Where do I get in line for my medium Pepsi.
I think it's a smoke screen.
The Giants currently have 3 QBs on their roster. Surely they're not going to draft a 4th QB.
Or are they???
Quote from: T200 on February 05, 2024, 09:47:13 AMThe Giants currently have 3 QBs on their roster.
But zero good ones.
Quote from: DaveBrown74 on February 05, 2024, 09:13:07 PMBut zero good ones.
They have one good but injury-prone one.
Quote from: DaveBrown74 on February 10, 2024, 01:16:40 PMWho? Tyrod?
Tyrod is a good backup.
As for Daniel Jones, I know you and others here don't like him, but Phil Simms (who knows a thing or two about QBs) had this to say about him
"He definitely has starting NFL talent," he said. "That's the one thing I'll argue against as long as you want."https://giantswire.usatoday.com/2024/02/08/phil-simms-believes-new-york-giants-should-show-patience-daniel-jones/?taid=65c78f8470a0d90001c89b34&utm_campaign=trueanthem&utm_medium=trueanthem&utm_source=twitter
the guy must be getting flyers from AARP by now
he is old and fragile, not to mention the cement head audible to run Barkley on the goal line
THEN run Barkley to the right on the goal line in another game and throw it at the middle of his backside in another game losing catastrophe
I would not trust his judgement to be a crossing guard
Why would we want to play Tommy who won 3 games
threw 8 TD passes in 5 starts and only 2 INTs despite a propensity to throw the ball long?
I like Tyrod but he is expensive and will likley get hurt on the opening day 1st drive....much like Aaron Rodgers
I give up :doh:
Quote from: MightyGiants on February 10, 2024, 02:02:00 PMTyrod is a good backup.
As for Daniel Jones, I know you and others here don't like him, but Phil Simms (who knows a thing or two about QBs) had this to say about him
"He definitely has starting NFL talent," he said. "That's the one thing I'll argue against as long as you want."
https://giantswire.usatoday.com/2024/02/08/phil-simms-believes-new-york-giants-should-show-patience-daniel-jones/?taid=65c78f8470a0d90001c89b34&utm_campaign=trueanthem&utm_medium=trueanthem&utm_source=twitter
Simms has a virtual love affair with Penix and I dont see anyone boarding his train on that one. Good QB, questionable QB appeciation
Having said that I like Penix too but I only really watched him in the Semi Final game
Michigan was a slaughter
Quote from: MightyGiants on February 10, 2024, 02:02:00 PMTyrod is a good backup.
As for Daniel Jones, I know you and others here don't like him, but Phil Simms (who knows a thing or two about QBs) had this to say about him
"He definitely has starting NFL talent," he said. "That's the one thing I'll argue against as long as you want."
https://giantswire.usatoday.com/2024/02/08/phil-simms-believes-new-york-giants-should-show-patience-daniel-jones/?taid=65c78f8470a0d90001c89b34&utm_campaign=trueanthem&utm_medium=trueanthem&utm_source=twitter
When you say that I don't like him, you make it sound like it's personal. That is not fair at all if that's what you mean. I have done nothing but praise his character traits. I don't think he's a particularly good QB, but that doesn't mean I don't like him.
Anyway, as I have stated a couple of times in the last several weeks I'm done with the Jones debates for the most part. After five years of it, it's just not a topic I find particularly interesting or controversial anymore. My firm view is we very much need a new young QB on this team, even though I know it's very possible that may not happen in this offseason. I will leave it there.
Quote from: DaveBrown74 on February 10, 2024, 01:16:40 PMWho? Tyrod?
Tyrod, yes. Was better (Cutlets too) than the godawful DJ, probably the worst starting qb last year. Backups around the league outplayed him... Flacco off his couch..etc.
Quote from: Ed Vette on February 02, 2024, 12:21:58 PMI'm sure he will. With his injury history however, that might lower his market value at his age. He might get it with a team drafting a QB who needs a mentor but 5 MM is steep. I'd rather have him than Tommy DeVito.
Ed, Jake Browning, Joshua Dobbs, Gardner Minshew or kick the tires on Sam Darnold....might be better options