What are your thoughts on Brock Purdy and his performance yesterday?
He's an excellent QB. Unfortunately for him he was playing against the MVP of the game. Steve Spagnuolo.
After posting this thread, I came across this article at 33rd team
Brock Purdy Is Really Good — But Not Elite — And That Matters In NFL Playoffs
https://www.the33rdteam.com/brock-purdy-is-really-good-but-not-elite-and-that-matters-in-nfl-playoffs/
Don't Blame Brock Purdy for 49ers Super Bowl LVIII Loss
He is very very good. But sadly we compare him to Mahomes, who is in a class by himself.
I'd say the two QBs were comparable.
The surrounding cast for KC seems to be better that was thought
It was a very close game. Neither QB was dominant
An old Lombardi quote- "Fatigue makes cowards fo us all". SF seemed tire at the end. Also the playcalling for KC was superior, or at least seemed so
Have to hand it to KC andAndy Reid- Very tough to repeat
If I had to pick an MVP it would be Spags
He's a kid. He's good now and I'm thinking he'll get better with more experience. Fir what it's worth, it didnt look like he was overmatched.
He's fine, but the 49ers had an elite group of skill-position players. I think if you swapped him and Mahomes this game isn't close.
20 QBs could easily do what he does.
6 all pros on offense
A very good defense
Very good offensive head coach
Will never have the arm strength or athleticism to be elite. Once his rookie deal is done - 49ers are better moving on.
I dont like the premise of this post. Brock Purdy is a damn good QB certainly good enough to win a SB. Let's keep in mind the Chiefs oin, not Mahomes. The 49ers lost, not Purdy. The final TD play was not some magic that Mahomes did. It was a great call executed well by 11 offensive players.
Quote from: Philosophers on February 12, 2024, 10:12:06 AMI dont like the premise of this post. Brock Purdy is a damn good QB certainly good enough to win a SB. Let's keep in mind the Chiefs oin, not Mahomes. The 49ers lost, not Purdy. The final TD play was not some magic that Mahomes did. It was a great call executed well by 11 offensive players.
I agree in principal as far Purdy and most QBs are concerned, but seriously, do the Chiefs win three out of four Super Bowls without Mahomes? We have to recognize that he does things to win most cannot.
I have a lot of respect for how Purdy handled himself in the game. He's not Mahomes, but no one is. Who knows, he may be back.
Definitely, keep the scope of this thread to "AFTER THE SUPER BOWL," what do I think of him?
I was a fan of his when he came off the bench, last year in that drubbing against the Chiefs, and remain a fan of his after Mahomes threw his TD pass and built the next layer on the foundation of what is becoming a Chiefs' dynasty.
Purdy played very well yesterday and I will go out on a limb and say some of his out of the pocket moves, to buy time, before he hit his receivers downfield, reminded me just a tiny bit of Joe Montana; just a little bit, mind you. The 49ers' game plan wasn't set up for Purdy having to step up and be a hero, although there were situations where he had them for the taking if he was up for it; the Chiefs' defense was outstanding in those situations.
Mr. Irrelevant played on the biggest stage and Tony Romo said it best, "He's not Mr. Irrelevant anymore!"
I couldn't agree more. He'll continue to grow in Shanahan's system and, depending on how long the 49ers' window remains open, he and his team may be back again for another crack soon."
The glass slipper didn't fit last night, but he'll get another chance. The kid will work and dedicate himself for the cause.
All of us, here in the Valley of the Sun, and especially the folks of Queen Creek, are very proud of what he accomplished this season.
Peace!
He threw some nice passes and also some bad passes. He looked above average but considering the talent around him I expected more.
They asked him to do too much. As we know, he is not Mahones, he isn't really half the QBs in the League. He is still a kid in terms of age. The 49ers should have used their offensive MVP to carry the game and not put it on Purdy. As we saw, he just can't carry a team to a championship, at least not yet.
He did well under the circumstances. I thought Spags would get to him often but their line held up well.
I agree that he underwhelmed considering they had a 10-point lead with weapons at all skill positions. Kittle wasn't much of a factor in the passing game.
I think last night was a good demonstration of an elite QB vs a very good QB. The elite QB had less of a supporting cast but still got it done.
I thought Purdy played well, especially the 1st half. Whatever Spags is doing to teams in the 2nd halves of these playoff games has been lights out.
Feel like in OT Mahomes made the plays he needed to and Purdy came up just short. He is young and will be around for a while. I do wonder what he would look like with a lesser supporting cast. We got a look at that during a 3 game skid.
I don't watch much football any more so this was really the first time I saw him over a whole game. The thing I was struck by is that he has a long windup when he throws so he seems the opposite of quick release.
Quote from: uconnjack8 on February 12, 2024, 11:32:16 AMI think last night was a good demonstration of an elite QB vs a very good QB. The elite QB had less of a supporting cast but still got it done.
I thought Purdy played well, especially the 1st half. Whatever Spags is doing to teams in the 2nd halves of these playoff games has been lights out.
Feel like in OT Mahomes made the plays he needed to and Purdy came up just short. He is young and will be around for a while. I do wonder what he would look like with a lesser supporting cast. We got a look at that during a 3 game skid.
I like your assessment and there is no question Spags limited Purdy on what he could realistically do out there in the second half. He essentially took George Kittle completely out of the game and that was huge. We know that Kittle sustained a shoulder injury later in the game but battled back to finish. He also did a commendable job in containing Deebo which I felt was central for the Chiefs to have success on the defensive side of the ball. Deebo has been playing hurt throughout the playoffs and a healthy version of him would have yielded a different result, in my opinion, last night. But Aiyuk, Conley and especially Jennings all contributed to the receiving game even though the Chiefs' secondary was playing lights out.
But what was especially surprising was seeing the 49ers' offensive line get pushed around a bit in the second half. Trent Williams will be disappointed with himself for another less than stellar game (NOTE: he also had some struggles in the Lions game). The former Giant, Jon Feliciano, got banged up during the game. As the game progressed late into the 4th, and subsequently into overtime, it can be debated whether the 49ers became conservative, or the Chiefs defense became so dominant that they made the 49ers look conservative by comparison.
Being in Arizona, I generally watch either the Cardinals or 49ers after the Giants game (NOTE: truth be told, mostly the 49ers). So, in the last couple of years I've lived here, and watched Brock Purdy, yesterday was arguably the second time he has had to deal with a defense dialing up the type of looks and pressure that he's ever had to face in the NFL (NOTE: the other would be the Ravens game earlier this season which Baltimore won easily).
Purdy has just taken the ultimate ride that is every quarterback's dream: to lead your team into the Super Bowl and have a chance to win and become a champion. Even in defeat, he has now accomplished something that some quarterbacks in the Hall of Fame (e.g. Dan Fouts, Sonny Jurgensen and Warren Moon come to mind) have never even had a sniff of - playing in the big game.
There is more to Brock Purdy's story that has yet to be written. Last night, it was tabled so that a bigger story could be written, and that doesn't reflect negatively at all on the young QB.
Peace!
Quote from: katkavage on February 12, 2024, 10:17:00 AMI agree in principal as far Purdy and most QBs are concerned, but seriously, do the Chiefs win three out of four Super Bowls without Mahomes? We have to recognize that he does things to win most cannot.
I dont know the answer but I would give more credit to Andy Reid. Maybe if Joe Burrow or another great QB is in KC, the result is the same. I think highly of PM but not every great KC play is because of PM. Others executed them.
Purdy good, not great.
If SF does not kick a low line drive extra point we would not even be discussing this premise
I thought both QBs were good
Neither is in the top 10 of all time by any means
time will tell
Quote from: BluesCruz on February 13, 2024, 02:44:08 PMIf SF does not kick a low line drive extra point we would not even be discussing this premise
I thought both QBs were good
Neither is in the top 10 of all time by any means
time will tell
If Mahomes never played another down in the NFL, he's a lock for the HoF.
Quote from: T200 on February 13, 2024, 02:53:04 PMIf Mahomes never played another down in the NFL, he's a lock for the HoF.
That does not make him a top 10 in my book. Most of the QBs in that group excelled before they put dresses on the position
Roger Staubach
Joe Montana
Dan Marino
Tom Brady
John Elway
Joe Namath
Peyton Manning
Drew Brees
Brett Favre
The list goes on and on....
I have to laugh when a QB does just enough to win in Overtime- a virtual tied game, and the reaction is GOAT? Sloppy game, line drive PAT. Give me a brake
Compare his SB performance to Phil Simms- who threw the football equivilent of a perfect game.
Another thing is Mahommes should avoid interviews. He talks so fast with that squeeky voice, he gives me a headache. Sounds like Mickey Mouse. Needs voice coach lessons to throw in some pause for emphasis. I never heard anyone talk like that before. Annoying. He is no Tommy DaVito thats for sure :-)
Mahommes game is much like Fran Tarkenton, only Tarkenton was a better player. McMahon is a good comarable too
Quote from: BluesCruz on February 13, 2024, 09:06:52 PMThat does not make him a top 10 in my book. Most of the QBs in that group excelled before they put dresses on the position
Roger Staubach
Joe Montana
Dan Marino
Tom Brady
John Elway
Joe Namath
Peyton Manning
Drew Brees
Brett Favre
The list goes on and on....
I have to laugh when a QB does just enough to win in Overtime- a virtual tied game, and the reaction is GOAT? Sloppy game, line drive PAT. Give me a brake
Compare his SB performance to Phil Simms- who threw the football equivilent of a perfect game.
Another thing is Mahommes should avoid interviews. He talks so fast with that squeeky voice, he gives me a headache. Sounds like Mickey Mouse. Needs voice coach lessons to throw in some pause for emphasis. I never heard anyone talk like that before. Annoying. He is no Tommy DaVito thats for sure :-)
Mahommes game is much like Fran Tarkenton, only Tarkenton was a better player. McMahon is a good comarable too
You're the author of your book.
There are many that would have Mahomes in that list instead of Namath.
Quote from: T200 on February 13, 2024, 09:57:53 PMYou're the author of your book.
There are many that would have Mahomes in that list instead of Namath.
All this Mahommes GOAT talk is irritating to say the least
He's OK, but mortal
How do you think he'd do on the Giants? He has a very good team around him and great coaches HOF coaches
He was extremely lucky to have won that game. SF was not ready for the big stage. They blew it
The NFL has become a parity league. There are no GREAT teams anymore
I hope the Giants find a good or great QB, and we will be right up there.
I'm pretty sure Tommy could go toe to toe with Purdy right now.....Mahommes
we need to find someone in this draft to go up against him. I like Penix Jr and Nix.