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General Category => Big Blue Huddle => Topic started by: MightyGiants on February 27, 2024, 09:22:52 AM

Title: First Round Tight Ends
Post by: MightyGiants on February 27, 2024, 09:22:52 AM
Since TE Brock Bowers is considered top 10

https://x.com/Jason_OTC/status/1762131895414907013?s=20
Title: Re: First Round Tight Ends
Post by: Philosophers on February 27, 2024, 09:51:41 AM
It's a weak draft class for TEs.  One thing I heard is that Bowers may drop out of top 10 because if you draft him too high, you slot his rookie contract at too high a total dollar amount for the TE position.
Title: Re: First Round Tight Ends
Post by: MightyGiants on February 27, 2024, 09:54:34 AM
Quote from: Philosophers on February 27, 2024, 09:51:41 AMIt's a weak draft class for TEs.  One thing I heard is that Bowers may drop out of top 10 because if you draft him too high, you slot his rookie contract at too high a total dollar amount for the TE position.

Which is what happened when the Giants drafted Barkley number 2 overall.
Title: Re: First Round Tight Ends
Post by: Bob In PA on February 27, 2024, 11:04:40 AM
Quote from: MightyGiants on February 27, 2024, 09:54:34 AMWhich is what happened when the Giants drafted Barkley number 2 overall.

Or the Giants trade down just "low enough" to still get him, but not pay the top-ten premium. Bob
Title: Re: First Round Tight Ends
Post by: MightyGiants on February 27, 2024, 11:18:15 AM
Quote from: Bob In PA on February 27, 2024, 11:04:40 AMOr the Giants trade down just "low enough" to still get him, but not pay the top-ten premium. Bob

I think it's worth repeating.   The idea that teams will trade down for a targetted player (so that value matches draft position) is unrealistic, in my opinion.   When teams trade down, they greatly increase the risk of losing the player they are targeting.


Teams will trade up if there is a single player they are targeting.  They stand pat or trade down only when they have multiple prospects they would be happy to draft.
Title: Re: First Round Tight Ends
Post by: Ed Vette on February 27, 2024, 11:31:28 AM
Unless a TE is a phenom at Blocking and an Elite playmaker, no TE should be drafted in the top ten. Looking at their Stats, TE's aren't worthy of a top 20 pick. Pitts had one 1000 yard season. Most don't get enough targets to reach above 800 and get at least 6 TD's. That's meaningless though because some team will pick Brock Bowers in the top 15.
Title: Re: First Round Tight Ends
Post by: MightyGiants on February 27, 2024, 11:34:42 AM
Quote from: Ed Vette on February 27, 2024, 11:31:28 AMUnless a TE is a phenom at Blocking and an Elite playmaker, no TE should be drafted in the top ten. Looking at their Stats, TE's aren't worthy of a top 20 pick. Pitts had one 1000 yard season. Most don't get enough targets to reach above 800 and get at least 6 TD's. That's meaningless though because some team will pick Brock Bowers in the top 15.

A true 2-way TE is special; a pass-catching TE, not so much.