9 spots to fill, who you got?
Quote from: Jclayton92 on April 27, 2024, 06:11:45 PM9 spots to fill, who you got?
Most of the ones I had...went in the last pick of the 6th, and the others in the 7th. I've been away from the TV for a while so I don't know if Christian Mahogany is still available, but he's one I'd like
Potential if available at end of draft:
DE Myles Cole
RB Carson Steele
TE Brevyn Spann-Ford
RB Emani Bailey (had a great Senior Bowl)
OT Ethan Driskell
OT Andrew Coker
Really wanted Stiggers and thought he might slip through the cracks. Apparently more known than I thought
Leonard Taylor
Julian Pearl
Fabian Lovett
Michael Pratt
Gabe Hall
Beau Brade
Some of the names still around that I'd love to take a shot on
https://x.com/TalkinGiants/status/1784364601645109725
Here is a tracker
https://www.si.com/nfl/giants/2024-undrafted-free-agent-tracker
By Lance Zierlein
NFL Analyst
Draft Projection
Priority free agent
Overview
Rock-steady full-time starter over the last three seasons. Kubas is smaller than NFL teams might like from a frame perspective and it would be beneficial if he learned to snap. He's technically sound, with inside hands and good lower-body bend. He's lightning quick up to the second level and as a pulling guard. Kubas could struggle to handle the step up in size and power across from him as both a run and pass blocker. His sudden feet and athleticism are both impressive in protection, but he's too easily conned out of his spot by moving pieces and appears to lack instincts in that regard. He could compete for a spot with a zone-heavy team.
Strengths
Quick feet to slide and mirror against quicker interior rushers.
Punches with inside hands and is a talented screen blocker.
Digs into first contact with leverage and lower-body drive.
Silky smooth with A+ athleticism on long pulls in space.
Races to second-level landmarks, beating linebackers to the spot.
Weaknesses
Lacks instincts to recognize potential games up front.
Overreacts to movement, leaving gaps exposed.
Edges leak when he doesn't slide enough to meet defender.
Might not have enough mass to take on NFL bullies inside.
Powerful two-gapper can get rid of his sustain attempts.
https://www.nfl.com/prospects/jake-kubas/32004b55-4226-2743-f3e2-ae57dba09bba
https://x.com/BobbySkinner_/status/1784370211728056798
https://x.com/DDuggan21/status/1784370335057338821
This tracks all team's signings
https://walterfootball.com/Draft2024UDFASigningsByTeam.php
Alex Johnson, DB, UCLA
The 6-foot-1, 190-pounder had breakout season with five interceptions and a fumble recovered for a touchdown. Played slot and safety.
Casey Rogers, DT, Oregon
A surprise Combine snub, the 6-foot-5, 305-pound Rogers spent four years at Nebraska before joining the Ducks. He's got quickness inside and impressed at Oregon Pro Day.
They love Oregon Dlinemen it seems
Potential?
(https://i.postimg.cc/fT031bJ1/GJBw9w-XWIAAv-6-N.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/bspNtp0R)
Quote from: Jclayton92 on April 27, 2024, 08:53:09 PMFormer UCF QB John Rhys Plumlee is signing with the #Giants as a UDFA, per source.
Multi sport athlete, played football and baseball. Arm needs some work but the kid can run his ass off. As a freshman put up 300 rushing yards on the LSU team that won the national championship with Burrow and chase.
https://youtu.be/Hr6YRcT4Csc?si=rx7VGZu2HQ2t2qbE
I know zero about this guy, but I do know that everyone in that video looks like they are going at half speed except for this guy...
Unsure if he'll make it, but there could be some interesting looks with him, Nabers, Wandale, Hyatt, and Singletary on the field at the same time regarding movement before the snap and during the play...
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Quote from: Topshelf21 on April 27, 2024, 09:05:05 PMI know zero about this guy, but I do know that everyone in that video looks like they are going at half speed except for this guy...
Unsure if he'll make it, but there could be some interesting looks with him, Nabers, Wandale, Hyatt, and Singletary on the field at the same time regarding movement before the snap and during the play...
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Ole Miss played him at Qb his freshman year, then Wr his sophomore and Junior year before he transferred to UCF and played Qb I think his final year.
Kid has serious wheels. Think of all those Qbs that Belichick converted to Wrs or weapons. That's this guy 100%
Plumlee signed with Pittsburg.
Quote from: bamagiantfan on April 27, 2024, 09:48:02 PMPlumlee signed with Pittsburg.
Your right, I copied the post from one of the beat writers on Twitter and they deleted their post. Assuming he got more money maybe, not sure.
NYGiants signed LSU Edge Ovie Oghoufo as an UDFA per
@art_stapleton
WR Ayir Asante, Wyoming: A Franklin Township, NJ native, Asante scored six touchdowns on 21 receptions for the Cowboys this season after transferring from Holy Cross (Bobby Skinner)
DB Alex Johnson, UCLA: Johnson will reunite with his former teammate and sixth-round pick Darius Muasau after earning five interceptions in the last of five seasons in Westwood. (James H. Williams)
WR Jon Jiles, West Florida: Jiles put up 1,081 yards and 13 scores in a single season at Division II UWF. (Matt Lombardo)
OL Marcellus Johnson, Missouri: Johnson was a four-year starter at Eastern Michigan and primarily appeared on Columbia's special teams units. (Dan Duggan)
OG Jake Kubas, North Dakota State: Kubas was a part of two FCS national championship runs with the Bison. (Dom Izzo)
EDGE Ovie Oghoufo, LSU: Working through three schools in six years, Oghoufo spent last year in Baton Rouge with Malik Nabers, where he had 34 tackles (4 for a loss) and 2.5 sacks. (The Kneaux)
DL Casey Rogers, Oregon: Rogers earned 56 tackles at Oregon and also served as a personal protector on punts, where he notably rumbled to an 18-yard gain on a fake deep in Duck territory during the highly-publicized blowout win over Colorado. (Don Smalley)
https://www.si.com/nfl/giants/2024-undrafted-free-agent-tracker
30. CASEY ROGERS | Oregon 6043 | 294 lbs. | 6SR Syracuse, N.Y. (Westhill) 12/18/1998 (age 25.35) #98
YEAR (GP/GS) TKLS TFL SACK FF PD INT NOTES
2017: Avon Old Farms (Conn.) School Played football and lacrosse
2018: Redshirted Nebraska; Enrolled in May 2018
2019: (4/0) 0 0.0 0.0 0 0 0 Nebraska
2020: (8/1) 22 3.0 1.0 0 2 0 Nebraska; Pandemic-shortened season
2021: (7/0) 17 3.0 0.5 0 0 0 Nebraska; Missed first five games (knee)
2022: (13/12) 34 3.5 0.0 0 2 0 Oregon; Graduated with degree from Nebraska (May 2022)
2023: (14/2) 22 2.5 1.5 1 0 0 Oregon; Converted a fake punt vs. Colorado
Total: (46/15) 95 12.0 3.0 1 4 0
HT WT HAND ARM WING 40-YD 20-YD 10-YD VJ BJ SS 3C BP
COMBINE N/A (not invited)
PRO DAY 6043 294 9 32 78 1/2 4.84 2.84 1.75 35 9'8" 4.51 7.45 25
SUMMARY: Iorry "Casey" Rogers grew up playing football and lacrosse — his father (Lelan) was the lacrosse defensive coordinator at Syracuse (2008-21). After
initially committing to Syracuse for lacrosse, he switched his focus back to football (as a defensive end and tight end). After a prep year out of high school, he
committed to Nebraska and was due for a breakout season in 2021, but a preseason knee injury derailed those plans. He earned his degree, then transferred to
Oregon (over USC and Auburn). Rogers displays above-average athleticism to play in gaps or work up/down the line chasing the run. He showed flashes as a pass
rusher (see 2023 Cal tape) but not consistency. The main concern is his ability to stay stout and leverage blocks to be a force in the run game. Overall, Rogers is light
on his feet (his lacrosse background shows) with disruptive potential, but he might have a tough time holding his ground versus NFL blockers.
GRADE: Priority Free Agent
https://x.com/Tonyrazz03/status/1784555381802287153
I find Casey Rogers quite intriguing. He has some game to him and rates very high in his RAS score. That score shows he needs to add about 10 lbs of muscle I guess. Put horns on each side of a helmet and a fat sword in his hands, and he'd look like a feared Viking warrior. I will be watching this guy closely to see if he can make the team and be of use to us. His athletic scores are comparable to Braden Fiske's (although Rogers wasn't invited to the combine) and would have been second fastest of all DTs. He also plays on special teams, and I've included a clip of him on a trick play where he turned a 4th and punt into a 1st down (he's no. 98)
(https://i.postimg.cc/KvGBr67k/Casey-Rogers-DE.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
https://x.com/JustinM_NFL/status/1784678325702561991
Giants sign WR with 'ridiculous catch radius'
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/giants-sign-wr-with-ridiculous-catch-radius/ar-AA1nOMSU?ocid=msedgntphdr&cvid=cd546537c84e48ab9d2705cf9b0b63ab&ei=75
"Jiles has arms like vines and showed off his ridiculous catch radius on more than one occasion during his college career," NFL Media's Lance Zierlein writes of Jiles. "Despite playing against smaller foes, he has a lighter win rate on contested catches than he should, as he fails to bully and wall off opponents at the catch point."
Casey Rogers looks menacing. How did the Vikings pass on him? :confused:
Looks the part of a Norseman. Going to root for him
Reads like the scouting report on Ford-Wheaton. Every year every team invites guys like this
Every year there seems to be a wr guy to project surprisingly..Ramses Barden anyone? Odessa Turner?
Victor Cruz was different and rare.
Quote from: Jolly Blue Giant on April 28, 2024, 11:38:20 AMI find Casey Rogers quite intriguing. He has some game to him and rates very high in his RAS score. That score shows he needs to add about 10 lbs of muscle I guess. Put horns on each side of a helmet and a fat sword in his hands, and he'd look like a feared Viking warrior. I will be watching this guy closely to see if he can make the team and be of use to us. His athletic scores are comparable to Braden Fiske's (although Rogers wasn't invited to the combine) and would have been second fastest of all DTs. He also plays on special teams, and I've included a clip of him on a trick play where he turned a 4th and punt into a 1st down (he's no. 98)
(https://i.postimg.cc/KvGBr67k/Casey-Rogers-DE.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
His father was a long time assistant coach at Syracuse. He spent a lot of time with my son and me during my son's recruiting visit. Nice guy.
I tend to look at the UDFAs as guys to fill in spots during camp. As injuries start occurring, these guys have a chance to show something. I always wonder what would have become of Victor Cruz is so many WRs did not get hurt who were in front of him on the Depth Chart.
What I am looking for more than anything is a guy who the other players seem to trust. It is less about finding the next Cruz and more about finding the next Spencer Paysinger who can be Special Teams captain and fill in as a starter in a pinch. Casey Rodgers is perhaps one injury away from making the roster with only 3 DTs in front of him. I thought the Giants might try to draft a Guard so there is an opportunity for Kubas and in particular OL Marcellus Johnson who has done much of his work on Special Teams at both Guard and Tackle and whose father played professionally. The rest of the guys have an uphill battle.
https://x.com/TalkinGiants/status/1784962670803751130
Quote from: MightyGiants on April 29, 2024, 11:11:07 AMhttps://x.com/TalkinGiants/status/1784962670803751130
If only we had kept Julian love he could have been the backup kicker.
Quote from: Jclayton92 on April 29, 2024, 11:26:50 AMIf only we had kept Julian love he could have been the backup kicker.
He was a huge loss to the defense and to the leadership
Quote from: Trench on April 29, 2024, 11:42:30 AMHe was a huge loss to the defense and to the leadership
I think Love was more of a leader than McKinney. We always hear about McKinney's leadership, yet I have never witnessed any direct indication that McKinney was a true leader.
Quote from: MightyGiants on April 29, 2024, 11:47:37 AMI think Love was more of a leader than McKinney. We always hear about McKinney's leadership, yet I have never witnessed any direct indication that McKinney was a true leader.
If it was Love who broke his hand during a bye week you could just reverse their names in what you wrote. Love would have become the persona non grata no one wanted to re-sign, and not McKinney. Giants fans turn on their own so quickly.
Quote from: TDToomer on April 29, 2024, 11:57:11 AMIf it was Love who broke his hand during a bye week you could just reverse their names in what you wrote. Love would have become the persona non grata no one wanted to re-sign, and not McKinney. Giants fans turn on their own so quickly.
Can you give me an example where McKinney demonstrated leadership?
Quote from: MightyGiants on April 29, 2024, 11:47:37 AMI think Love was more of a leader than McKinney. We always hear about McKinney's leadership, yet I have never witnessed any direct indication that McKinney was a true leader.
100% spot on correct Rich
Quote from: TDToomer on April 29, 2024, 11:57:11 AMIf it was Love who broke his hand during a bye week you could just reverse their names in what you wrote. Love would have become the persona non grata no one wanted to re-sign, and not McKinney. Giants fans turn on their own so quickly.
Love was FANTASTIC in post game comments and taught the secondary to own it, be accountable, be a pro, team first guy.
McKinney was the opposite - it was always all about him first
Quote from: MightyGiants on April 29, 2024, 11:47:37 AMI think Love was more of a leader than McKinney. We always hear about McKinney's leadership, yet I have never witnessed any direct indication that McKinney was a true leader.
He wore a "C" so that must account for something
https://x.com/DDuggan21/status/1785118324432478390
Asante transferred to Wyoming from Holy Cross. He'll be competing with another former Patriot League rival, Dequece Carter who was invited to rookie minicamp. Carter transferred to Indiana from Fordham. Having watched both for 4 years, I think Carter was the better WR (though I admit to being somewhat prejudiced ;))
Since the Giants gave Johnson the "big bucks," I did a little digging. He was one of Tony Pauline's sleepers
(https://i.imgur.com/gLc3Q91.png)
Quote from: Jclayton92 on April 29, 2024, 11:26:50 AMIf only we had kept Julian love he could have been the backup kicker.
Imagine if the Giants had signed and kept the holder in this photo, last year's punter, Adam Korsak, the Aussie Rules punter, what a dynamic duo the Giants could have had!
But the Scottish Hammer made amends from a questionable 20222 season and improved significantly and hopes to improve even more this coming season.
For Jude McAtamney, he'll give Gano competition which is a good thing. This is evidence that competition on offense, defense AND special teams now exists which means the head coach has learned some lessons and is now doing things different than from past seasons; a very good thing.
Peace!
Quote from: MightyGiants on April 30, 2024, 12:00:29 PMSince the Giants gave Johnson the "big bucks," I did a little digging. He was one of Tony Pauline's sleepers
(https://i.imgur.com/gLc3Q91.png)
I've been researching him as well...and mainly because of the "Big Bucks". I watched a long interview with him, and he's a high character guy as well as an academic scholar. His brother plays for the Colts (DT) and there were others in his extended family who played in college and the NFL, so he knows what's expected of him at the next level
He seems to be a ball of clay for a coach to mold into anything the coach wants. I don't think he's starter material (yet, who knows?), but if he can give quality minutes backing up guards and tackles, that'd be good. Not as big as most tackles, but excels at horizontal shifting and mirroring pass rushes, hence, his best asset is pass protection at both guard and tackle. Needs to add muscle if he's going to help in pushing open lanes for the run game. Will probably spend a year on the practice squad
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Giants Reported UDFA signings
Wyoming WR Ayir Asante
West Florida WR Jon Jiles
North Dakota State OL Jake Kubas
Missouri OT Marcellus Johnson
UCLA DB Alex Johnson
Oregon DT Casey Rogers
LSU EDGE Ovie Oghoufo
Rutgers K Jude McAtamney
Giants have room for 1 more signing.
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Marcellus Johnson has the kind of profile which suggests a legitimate shot to make the practice squad. If a rookie UDFA coming off an injury, even a high upside one, challenges to earn a swing T/back-up role that is not necessarily a good sign for us.
Quote from: londonblue on May 01, 2024, 11:01:56 AMMarcellus Johnson has the kind of profile which suggests a legitimate shot to make the practice squad. If a rookie UDFA coming off an injury, even a high upside one, challenges to earn a swing T/back-up role that is not necessarily a good sign for us.
He appears (to me anyway) to be a project that they think can be molded into a solid backup. I think they are thinking (hoping) Philips is over his injury (torn quad) and how quickly he recovers from the surgery he had in January
To me, I'm more interested in seeing what Alex Johnson the skinny 6-1, 170-pound Cornerback from UCLA, is going to do. The Giants paid him the second most money to get him to sign (115k I believe). Primarily a slot CB, but is versatile and can play multiple roles - sort of a younger version of A-A-ron Robinson without an injury history. His film looks good, and he seems to have a nose for the ball - yet another "ball hawk". Will probably need to add weight as did Flott
As with any UDFAs, most are camp fodder, but usually one or two find their way to the practice squad and sometimes even more
The three I'm watching closely are Marcellus Johnson, Alex Johnson, and Casey Rogers. If one or two workout, that'd be a win IMO
Dan Duggan
@DDuggan21
Adding North Dakota State OT Jake Kubas: $270K guaranteed. That's the richest guarantee I've seen aside from Colorado State CB Chig Anusiem, who the Giants were interested in but he fetched $350K guaranteed from Washington.
A practice squad salary for the full season is $225K. The Giants guaranteed Kubas $240K in salary plus a $30K signing bonus. Strong indication that they expect him to at least land on their P-squad (although with offsets, they'd only have $45K in dead money if they cut him and he signs with another team's PS).
Quote from: MightyGiants on May 02, 2024, 12:05:04 PMDan Duggan
@DDuggan21
Adding North Dakota State OT Jake Kubas: $270K guaranteed. That's the richest guarantee I've seen aside from Colorado State CB Chig Anusiem, who the Giants were interested in but he fetched $350K guaranteed from Washington.
A practice squad salary for the full season is $225K. The Giants guaranteed Kubas $240K in salary plus a $30K signing bonus. Strong indication that they expect him to at least land on their P-squad (although with offsets, they'd only have $45K in dead money if they cut him and he signs with another team's PS).
Rich, this is it?
Missouri OL Marcellus Johnson (source)
Wyoming WR Ayir Asante (source)
UConn WR Geordon Porter
Minnesota WR Chris Autman-Bell
Georgia Southern TE Jay McAfee
North Carolina T William Barnes
Oregon IDL Casey Rogers
LSU EDGE Ovie Oghoufo
UCLA CB Alex Johnson
Quote from: brownelvis54 on May 02, 2024, 12:59:07 PMRich, this is it?
Missouri OL Marcellus Johnson (source)
Wyoming WR Ayir Asante (source)
UConn WR Geordon Porter
Minnesota WR Chris Autman-Bell
Georgia Southern TE Jay McAfee
North Carolina T William Barnes
Oregon IDL Casey Rogers
LSU EDGE Ovie Oghoufo
UCLA CB Alex Johnson
add in the kicker from Rutgers and that's about it. The Giants UDRFA class had only 9 slots. Even before Schoen and Daboll, the Giants didn't seem to be into big UDRFA classes.
Quote from: MightyGiants on May 02, 2024, 01:00:43 PMadd in the kicker from Rutgers and that's about it. The Giants UDRFA class had only 9 slots. Even before Schoen and Daboll, the Giants didn't seem to be into big UDRFA classes.
Why do some teams get tons of picks? Example KC ?
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/2024-nfl-undrafted-free-agent-tracker-full-team-by-team-list-of-every-player-who-signed-following-nfl-draft/
Quote from: brownelvis54 on May 02, 2024, 01:04:31 PMWhy do some teams get tons of picks? Example KC ?
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/2024-nfl-undrafted-free-agent-tracker-full-team-by-team-list-of-every-player-who-signed-following-nfl-draft/
Every team has the same 90 guys going into camp. The Giants seem to favor keeping all those still under contract from last season, including most of the PS, along with street free-agent signings after the season to fill out their 90 rather than going with big undrafted rookie classes. It's a trend that seemed to start with Gettleman and continues under Schoen.
Here is a good article on Jake Kubas
https://heavy.com/sports/nfl/new-york-giants/jake-kubas-lineman-undrafted-free-agent/