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Title: PFF ranks the Giants 28th in receiving talent
Post by: MightyGiants on June 22, 2024, 07:32:14 AM
28. NEW YORK GIANTS
The Giants' receiver room will go as rookie Malik Nabers goes. If he is a star, Wan'Dale Robinson, Darius Slayton and Jalin Hyatt could all look like great complementary pieces.

After Darren Waller's retirement, Daniel Bellinger and Theo Johnson are the main options at tight end. Subbing out the pass-catching abilities of Saquon Barkley for Devin Singletary is a downgrade, as Singletary hasn't brought much in the receiving game in his career.


Again, PFF is ignoring its own grading system to make some of its declarations.  Like somehow Singletary's 61.2 receiving grade is a "downgrade from Barkley's 60.6 receiving grade.  You would think a site that is analytics-based would be less prone to reputation rather than actual production-based evaluations. 


https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-2024-receiving-corps-rankings-bears-texans
Title: PFF continues to hammer Giants, ranks their receivers among NFL's worst
Post by: DaveBrown74 on June 22, 2024, 07:33:17 AM
They have us 28th for wide receiver rooms.

Thoughts?


https://giantswire.usatoday.com/2024/06/22/new-york-giants-receivers-ranked-among-nfl-worst-pro-football-focus/?taid=6676a1d2ef218c000164a063&utm_campaign=trueanthem&utm_medium=trueanthem&utm_source=twitter

Title: Re: PFF ranks the Giants 28th in receiving talent
Post by: DaveBrown74 on June 22, 2024, 07:33:50 AM
Just posted something similar Rich (obviously didn't see yours). Please cancel mine.
Title: Re: PFF ranks the Giants 28th in receiving talent
Post by: DaveBrown74 on June 22, 2024, 07:37:48 AM
So my own two cents on this is I think this is a bit low. I thought ranking us around this level for our RBs was totally fair, but I think we are better than 28th in terms of receivers.

If you went strictly off of actual NFL accomplishments of the receivers on our roster, then maybe this would be closer to fair, but that seems like a silly way to rank teams' receivers, especially for a service that charges people money for their analysis.

I don't think the Giants deserve to be on the high end of the league in this category by the way, but Nabers projects to being an elite talent, and I think it's reasonable to believe that at least one of Hyatt and/or Wan'Dale projects out to being a solid WR2 or high end WR3. Plus we have some depth on the team with guys like McKenzie and Allen Robinson.

I think our wide receiver room is very different from our RB room in terms of where it ranks in the league.
Title: Re: PFF ranks the Giants 28th in receiving talent
Post by: MightyGiants on June 22, 2024, 07:47:10 AM
Quote from: DaveBrown74 on June 22, 2024, 07:37:48 AMSo my own two cents on this is I think this is a bit low. I thought ranking us around this level for our RBs was totally fair, but I think we are better than 28th in terms of receivers.

If you went strictly off of actual NFL accomplishments of the receivers on our roster, then maybe this would be closer to fair, but that seems like a silly way to rank teams' receivers, especially for a service that charges people money for their analysis.

I don't think the Giants deserve to be on the high end of the league in this category by the way, but Nabers projects to being an elite talent, and I think it's reasonable to believe that at least one of Hyatt and/or Wan'Dale projects out to being a solid WR2 or high end WR3. Plus we have some depth on the team with guys like McKenzie and Allen Robinson.

I think our wide receiver room is very different from our RB room in terms of where it ranks in the league.

Jeff,

As far as I can tell, this is all receivers (WR, TE, and RB) combined which, in my opinion, is as it should be
Title: Re: PFF ranks the Giants 28th in receiving talent
Post by: Ed Vette on June 22, 2024, 08:06:02 AM
Nobody can rank players who have never played and players in developmental stages and have never played together before as a group. It's a results based site that lowers themselves to get hits.
Title: Re: PFF ranks the Giants 28th in receiving talent
Post by: BluesCruz on June 22, 2024, 08:55:12 AM
These people must be closet Eagles or Cowboys fans

28th makes no sense whatsoever
Title: Re: PFF ranks the Giants 28th in receiving talent
Post by: Jclayton92 on June 22, 2024, 09:58:05 AM
PFF just ranked Wandale Robinson as one of the 5 triple threat wrs from all the analytics and yet acts like he's barely a complimentary piece.