Nabers , Tracy, Philips, Nubin
Idc if we go winless the rest of the season this is a promising core of players
Schoen should not be fired ... and I think Daboll deserves at least ONE season with a new starting QB
As a hardcore Jones defender all these years I not only believe it's time to move on I KNOW it's time to move on
As I write this Jones refuses to throw the ball on the flea flicker to one of TWO wide open receivers wtf
Seems to be good players but it may have been a mistake to take Nabers over: McCarthy, Nix and Penix. Nix has looked pretty good in season. The one game we seen McCarthy he also looked solid.
Quote from: sooners56 on November 10, 2024, 02:50:50 PMSeems to be good players but it may have been a mistake to take Nabers over: McCarthy, Nix and Penix. Nix has looked pretty good in season. The one game we seen McCarthy he also looked solid.
McCarthy never played a game yet, he was IR before season started
I have said for months that we're better than people realize; we're absolutely handcuffed by a below average passer at QB. If we can get the right guy, coupled with a few nice FAs, we could be Wash next year. I'm high on your young players!
Quote from: MrGap92 on November 10, 2024, 02:52:11 PMMcCarthy never played a game yet, he was IR before season started
He played a preseason game and threw for almost 200 yards with 2 TDs, 1 pick.
Quote from: sooners56 on November 10, 2024, 03:08:47 PMHe played a preseason game and threw for almost 200 yards with 2 TDs, 1 pick.
Nabors though potentially very good, was a mistake pick. A wide receiver's value is nowhere close to a QBs. The Giants knew they needed a QB but passed on one or three who all might be better than who they will have to pick this draft. Another failed gamble on Jones that might cost the coach his job and ultimately also the GM.
Quote from: sooners56 on November 10, 2024, 03:08:47 PMHe played a preseason game and threw for almost 200 yards with 2 TDs, 1 pick.
Preseason doesn't mean much
Quote from: MrGap92 on November 10, 2024, 03:20:07 PMPreseason doesn't mean much
Agreed but the Giants would be much better off now if McCarthy, even injured, would be there for them next year.
Quote from: MrGap92 on November 10, 2024, 03:20:07 PMPreseason doesn't mean much
True but it gives you a glimpse of his potential imo
Quote from: killarich on November 10, 2024, 10:34:41 AMNabers , Tracy, Philips, Nubin
Idc if we go winless the rest of the season this is a promising core of players
Schoen should not be fired ... and I think Daboll deserves at least ONE season with a new starting QB
As a hardcore Jones defender all these years I not only believe it's time to move on I KNOW it's time to move on
As I write this Jones refuses to throw the ball on the flea flicker to one of TWO wide open receivers wtf
I am growing a bit concerned about Nabers. He was hot prior to the concussion (minus some killer drops). Now he seems to be a bit of a non-factor.
Tracey is great, but at 25, how many seasons do we get?
I like what I have seen from Phillips and Nubin, but I am not ready to say with certainty that they were good to great picks.
This rookie class is probably the best since 2007 and we all know how that season turned out. It is stunning how poor the team record is.
Quote from: sooners56 on November 10, 2024, 03:33:52 PMTrue but it gives you a glimpse of his potential imo
Jones looked good in preseason. :surrender:
How do we know the Giants would be much better off with a QB that hasn't thrown a single NFL pass?
Especially as it compares to having Malik Nabers.
Quote from: uconnjack8 on November 10, 2024, 06:55:47 PMHow do we know the Giants would be much better off with a QB that hasn't thrown a single NFL pass?
Especially as it compares to having Malik Nabers.
:what:
Quote from: uconnjack8 on November 10, 2024, 06:55:47 PMHow do we know the Giants would be much better off with a QB that hasn't thrown a single NFL pass?
Especially as it compares to having Malik Nabers.
Could it be any worse? REALLY.
Many here don't even want Mr. Cutlets in there instead because he CAN win a game here and there.
Quote from: TDToomer on November 10, 2024, 06:59:47 PM:what:
Someone said they would be better off if they had JJ McCarthy rather than Nabers. We have seen how talented Nabers is and that his game translates to the NFL. McCarthy hasn't thrown a regular season pass.
The way things are looking passing on a QB last year might not be the worst thing. Depends on how you grade Cam Ward vs JJ/Nix/Penix. Since they had no chance at the other three guys. And personally I'm getting higher and higher on Ward with every passing week. Once th season is over I'll dig in more closely but that kid looks GREAT right now. Just gotta make sure the Giants don't accidentally win a game or two along the way
Quote from: T200 on November 10, 2024, 05:59:46 PMJones looked good in preseason. :surrender:
I seem to remember he would have a horrible couple of drives and then literally would be lights out terrific. Kind of how the season has gone where he's been awful with a few glimpses here and there to wet the beak
Quote from: uconnjack8 on November 10, 2024, 07:08:56 PMSomeone said they would be better off if they had JJ McCarthy rather than Nabers. We have seen how talented Nabers is and that his game translates to the NFL. McCarthy hasn't thrown a regular season pass.
On the other side, Nabers hasn't translated into wins. We'd be 2-8 if Nabers had never played a down for us.
Quote from: AYM on November 10, 2024, 08:18:38 PMOn the other side, Nabers hasn't translated into wins. We'd be 2-8 if Nabers had never played a down for us.
So you are saying having a really talented player makes no difference for the future? I just don't get that logic. By that logic Dex hasn't translated into wins either.
Quote from: uconnjack8 on November 10, 2024, 08:32:00 PMSo you are saying having a really talented player makes no difference for the future? I just don't get that logic. By that logic Dex hasn't translated into wins either.
It means you don't win games with talented wide receivers if you don't have someone capable to throw to them. The cart before the horse.
Quote from: Gmo11 on November 10, 2024, 07:41:32 PMThe way things are looking passing on a QB last year might not be the worst thing. Depends on how you grade Cam Ward vs JJ/Nix/Penix. Since they had no chance at the other three guys. And personally I'm getting higher and higher on Ward with every passing week. Once th season is over I'll dig in more closely but that kid looks GREAT right now. Just gotta make sure the Giants don't accidentally win a game or two along the way
He did not look good yesterday. He had a very Jonesque type of fumble. I'll admit it was the first time I watched him. I was not impressed.
Quote from: katkavage on November 10, 2024, 08:43:10 PMIt means you don't win games with talented wide receivers if you don't have someone capable to throw to them. The cart before the horse.
Cart before the horse? I've spent the last several years listening to how Jones needed weapons. Now having weapons is bad without a QB?
Quote from: katkavage on November 10, 2024, 08:43:10 PMIt means you don't win games with talented wide receivers if you don't have someone capable to throw to them. The cart before the horse.
You also don't draft a QB on the basis of "he's there and we need one". That's how you end up with Daniel Jones in the first place. If you draft a QB at 6 and whiff, it sets you back a few years. If Daboll and Schoen didn't believe that McCarthy, Nix or Penix were worth the 6th pick, they were right not to take them.
Quote from: uconnjack8 on November 10, 2024, 09:40:04 PMCart before the horse? I've spent the last several years listening to how Jones needed weapons. Now having weapons is bad without a QB?
Not bad but useless unless you consider Jones a capable QB.
Quote from: jgrangers2 on November 11, 2024, 08:30:58 AMYou also don't draft a QB on the basis of "he's there and we need one". That's how you end up with Daniel Jones in the first place. If you draft a QB at 6 and whiff, it sets you back a few years. If Daboll and Schoen didn't believe that McCarthy, Nix or Penix were worth the 6th pick, they were right not to take them.
Except I guarantee they will take one this year, right or wrong even if who they take one who is ranked lower than those three from last year. They have no choice. Their jobs are on the line. Right now were they right? The team is 2-8 and desperate for a QB.