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General Category => Big Blue Huddle => Topic started by: MightyGiants on January 06, 2025, 10:16:59 AM

Title: Since we saw the Giants tank yesterday, what was the point of the Colts victory?
Post by: MightyGiants on January 06, 2025, 10:16:59 AM
We saw Daboll rotate players to ensure a loss yesterday.  If they Giants were willing to tank, why did they go all out and lose the first pick in the draft by beating the Colts???

What was Shoen's and Daboll's strategy in winning last week, but they were playing to lose this week?
Title: Re: Since we saw the Giants tank yesterday, what was the point of the Colts victory?
Post by: T200 on January 06, 2025, 10:38:24 AM
xxxx happens. It's the NFL.
Title: Re: Since we saw the Giants tank yesterday, what was the point of the Colts victory?
Post by: Stringer Bell on January 06, 2025, 10:53:28 AM
Maybe because they rightfully believe that the players they want would be available at 3-4 and they didn't want the added cap commitments that come with the #1 overall pick?
Title: Re: Since we saw the Giants tank yesterday, what was the point of the Colts victory?
Post by: MightyGiants on January 06, 2025, 10:54:39 AM
Quote from: Stringer Bell on January 06, 2025, 10:53:28 AMMaybe because they rightfully believe that the players they want would be available at 3-4 and they didn't want the added cap commitments that come with the #1 overall pick?

It's not just the first pick.  The first pick in round two has real value (teams look over the boards over night and see who is left).   The first pick in round four has similar extra value
Title: Re: Since we saw the Giants tank yesterday, what was the point of the Colts victory?
Post by: Stringer Bell on January 06, 2025, 11:03:46 AM
Quote from: MightyGiants on January 06, 2025, 10:54:39 AMIt's not just the first pick.  The first pick in round two has real value (teams look over the boards over night and see who is left).   The first pick in round four has similar extra value

You do realize the Giants pick 2nd in the 2nd round and 1st in the 3rd round, right? So they dropped 1 spot in Round 2 and 2 spots in Round 4.

I'll take the $3M+ savings for a lower contract all day.

Title: Re: Since we saw the Giants tank yesterday, what was the point of the Colts victory?
Post by: PSUBeirut on January 06, 2025, 11:07:23 AM
Rotating players = ensuring a loss?  Not sure that premise is solid.  I'm at a loss to see how a staff can be so terrible to have only gotten 2 wins and then so incredible to have manipulated the final two games to turn out exactly how they wanted.  The simple answer is usually right - my guess is they were simply trying to win both games.  One they were successful, one they weren't. 
Title: Re: Since we saw the Giants tank yesterday, what was the point of the Colts victory?
Post by: MightyGiants on January 06, 2025, 11:08:23 AM
Quote from: Stringer Bell on January 06, 2025, 11:03:46 AMYou do realize the Giants pick 2nd in the 2nd round and 1st in the 3rd round, right? So they dropped 1 spot in Round 2 and 2 spots in Round 4.

I'll take the $3M+ savings for a lower contract all day.



The difference between the first and the third pick is 800 points (according to the standard draft value chart).  That $3 million cap savings essentially cost the team the equivalent of the 21st pick in the draft (which is worth 800 points)