https://x.com/AdamSchefter/status/1882102964527227283
People assume the Titans and Browns will pick Ward and/or Sanders one and two. I highly doubt it. Like everyone here and the Giants, no one, at least pre-Senior Bowl and pre-Combine is that enamored of the prospects. I feel the Giants will have their choice of one of the two and quite possibly both prospects at the number 3.
Maybe so, maybe smoke. I wouldn't bet the house on anything said or tweeted between now and Mr. Irrelevant.
Quote from: katkavage on January 22, 2025, 12:52:25 PMPeople assume the Titans and Browns will pick Ward and/or Sanders one and two. I highly doubt it. Like everyone here and the Giants, no one, at least pre-Senior Bowl and pre-Combine is that enamored of the prospects. I feel the Giants will have their choice of one of the two and quite possibly both prospects at the number 3.
I agree, at this point in time, there does appear to be a realistic chance one of the two will fall to the Giants at 3.
I don't see a generational talent in this draft. If he was in last years draft I don't see Travis Hunter coming off the board before Nabers or Odunze.
I don't want either ward or sanders. ward = 50-50; sanders = serious bust potential.
He can say whatever he wants about whomever WE may choose to speculate that HE has in mind as being a "generational talent". In the end, it always a matter of Que sera sera. Sapete?
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I agree with the generational talent concept including for the Giants pick this year. My comment with regard to what he said is that I don't believe anything that any GM or front office says prior to the draft.
I don't know that that generational talent exists in this draft, certainly at the quarterback position. I'm beginning to hate the phrase "generational talent" because it belies that fact that the Draft is such an imperfect science that literally the best QB of all time and arguably the best football player of all time was a 6th round pick. Generational Prospect? Okay. That exemplifies some qualities of athleticism and collegiate production that you could point to. Those are, generally speaking, the best indicators we have as to what prospects will pan out as a pro.
https://x.com/MikeGarafolo/status/1882164077100945549
https://x.com/clt_ny/status/1882218468487135494?s=46&t=1vcQIN8GqF5J2oLdxEVEJQ
If some one offered a slew of picks, like the Giants, you'd see how fast they would come off that #1 pick.
Quote from: LennG on January 22, 2025, 07:41:29 PMIf some one offered a slew of picks, like the Giants, you'd see how fast they would come off that #1 pick.
Depends on how they grade Sanders/Ward. If they're not talking about a quarterback, they'd move. If its a qb, i doubt they budge. Not apples to apples because I don't recall Joe Burrow being considered generational, but I recall the Bengals expressing to other teams they would not trade out under any circumstances.
Quote from: LennG on January 22, 2025, 07:41:29 PMIf some one offered a slew of picks, like the Giants, you'd see how fast they would come off that #1 pick.
If the Giants give up a slew of picks to move up, I am not sure I will be able to stay a Giants fan. It's one thing if one of them falls, and the Giants use one pick on the guy (and have the draft capital to make badly needed roster upgrades), it's quite another to take a questionable talent and not have the draft capital needed to fix this badly depleted roster. While it's always a distinct possibility I am wrong, I can't help but feel a trade to move up by the Giants will ensure another decade of futility.
I don't want them to trade-up but if they do and believe it's their guy, I want to see what the regime does with their own guy.
Hopefully, it's a home run hit in the vein of Nabers, Dexter and OBJ rather than the other miss/mediocre first round picks that have crippled this team over the last decade.
Get the guy and move forward. Much like some other posters, I don't actually think the Giants are that far away from turning things around.
Of course, I'd be more than happy with standing pat at 3 and taking the best player left. It really is the sweet spot.
Whichever way you slice it. I think the next couple of years will be extremely bright for the Giants.
They shouldn't trade up for any reason IMO.
There will be at least one QB in the second or even third round who will instantly be better than the entire QB room last year.
Whether that QB is a bridge or not, makes little difference as long as they draft nearly as well as they did last year.
This is about roster building until they can find a franchise QB. This year or next.
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I wasn't referring to the Giants trading up, only, I believe, the Titans would, in a heartbeat, trade down to say #3 and still get their man and a slew of other draft picks. They said they are drafting a generational talent, but that would quickly change if offered a great trade.
What worries me the most is Mara and company thinking lightning can strike twice in that we sort of traded up for Eli and do they think it could happen again? Not with this year's class of QBs.
Yeah. You can't trust the liars poker that goes on at draft time at all. I would draft either Hunter or Carter for them...best players. Can't really argue that Ward or Sanders are in their class unless you value the position too much.
They may like Darnold in a friendly environment with an offensive minded HC in Callahan.
Quote from: LennG on January 23, 2025, 01:05:28 PMWhat worries me the most is Mara and company thinking lightning can strike twice in that we sort of traded up for Eli and do they think it could happen again? Not with this year's class of QBs.
To be sure, there IS NO Eli Manning in the upcoming draft. Rest assured, Eli Manning is in the building and will set that record straight before ANY draft board is put together in preparation for April.
Count on it; lest you see Eli clean out his desk and exit stage left mumbling to Peyton on the phone "I tried telling them, man, but it's a hopeless cause now."
At that point,
@MightyGiants will raise his hand and lead the escort out of dodge with complimentary tickets for anyone wanting to join the ride.
Will the soap opera play out? Tune in and find out!
Peace!
What worries me is if QBs go 1-2 then they overdraft say Quinn Ewers at 3 or trade back to 6 and still overdraft say a Quinn Ewers.