For a 5th!
https://x.com/adamschefter/status/1895983518745833851?s=46&t=1vcQIN8GqF5J2oLdxEVEJQ
https://overthecap.com/player/deebo-samuel/7827#:~:text=Height:%206'0%22,2024%20OTC%20Valuation:%20$7%2C775%2C000
Good for them. In my eyes, a great deal. Has to help Daniels only get better.
Quote from: LennG on March 01, 2025, 07:13:45 PMGood for them. In my eyes, a great deal. Has to help Daniels only get better.
That Giants Secondary is a priority.
Quote from: Ed Vette on March 01, 2025, 07:16:05 PMThat Giants Secondary is a priority.
One of the many...
9ers could have had an extra first rounder instead of an extra fifth plus net saved $18mm in cap room by trading Aiyuk instead of Deebo. I think I would have preferred that if I were them.
Deebo is always hurt is the problem. Such a presence though. Nice get for the Commanders.
I wouldn't have guessed as low as a 5th.
In 2021 he was 1st team all-pro. That year he had 1770 scrimmage yards and 14 TDs. In the 3 years since he has 2800 yards and 19 TDs.
Juaun Jennings playing as well as he did last year probably made the decision easier.
Man, the commanders have really turned around a bad team.
We could have given the 49ers one of our fourth round pick swhich is better than the Commanders 5th. Don't you think he could have helped us a lot?
Quote from: Brooklyn Dave on March 02, 2025, 04:25:12 AMWe could have given the 49ers one of our fourth round pick swhich is better than the Commanders 5th. Don't you think he could have helped us a lot?
I agree.
Why wasn't Schoen trying to get involved here?...unless he feels Hyatt will turn it around, we could've used a talent such as this.
Regardless if you use his stats or you use his PFF grades, the 29-year-old appears to be declining. His salary will be higher than his performance at this point in his career
Quote from: MightyGiants on March 02, 2025, 08:37:33 AMRegardless if you use his stats or you use his PFF grades, the 29-year-old appears to be declining. His salary will be higher than his performance at this point in his career
Rich,
That's what I was trying say with my post. His production is down significantly and he was entering the last year of a contract.
Quote from: uconnjack8 on March 02, 2025, 09:03:13 AMRich,
That's what I was trying say with my post. His production is down significantly and he was entering the last year of a contract.
Matt,
The thing that struck me about Deboo was when a couple of seasons ago he was complaining about rushing the football because he believed it would shorten his career. That tells me that perhaps he already recognized there were physical issues present and he was trying to minimize them. So this early decline shouldn't be a surprise.
Quote from: MightyGiants on March 02, 2025, 08:37:33 AMRegardless if you use his stats or you use his PFF grades, the 29-year-old appears to be declining. His salary will be higher than his performance at this point in his career
I think the Niners know he can't stay healthy..Rich Good move for both teams .Coms will get him playoff ready.. he'll miss time . whatever..but have him for a serious playoff run.
Quote from: spiderblue43 on March 02, 2025, 09:21:03 AMI think the Niners know he can't stay healthy..Rich Good move for both teams .Coms will get him playoff ready.. he'll miss time . whatever..but have him for a serious playoff run.
The 49ers are a playoff caliber team as well. If they don't see the value in Deboo, I am not sure how the Commanders will find it.
Quote from: spiderblue43 on March 02, 2025, 09:21:03 AMI think the Niners know he can't stay healthy..Rich Good move for both teams .Coms will get him playoff ready.. he'll miss time . whatever..but have him for a serious playoff run.
I watched the 49ers regularly and Deebo was a spiritual leader for that team for a long time. The team literally fed off his energy and he "had" the ability to change a game with his physical will and determination.
Last season, though, he was a shell of his old self. Even in the Super Bowl prior, he was playing hurt and was generally not effective. But I believe the wheels started falling off last year and he missed a good part of the season.
He'll bounce back and try to be for Washington what he was for the 49ers; however, once he gets "popped" a few times from physical teams, such as the Iggles, we'll see how long he lasts.
The gamble with a fifth round pick is well worth any opportunity that might be captured if he can still produce. But make no mistake in that they aren't getting that explosive Deebo we used to watch a few years ago. Still, even 75% of Deebo is well worth the draft pick if they team believes it can get back to the Conference Championship again.
Peace!
https://x.com/DMRussini/status/1896217684364390709
Whether successful or not, Washington deserves credit for investing a 5th Round pick in the effort not to mention picking up the $17.55 million left on his 49ers contract's final year. I guess they figure it could make them a Deebo closer.
In any case, we shall see; no need to mention the Giants Gettlegaffes.
Cheers!
Quote from: gregf on March 02, 2025, 12:14:37 AMMan, the commanders have really turned around a bad team.
Quote from: gregf on March 02, 2025, 12:14:37 AMMan, the commanders have really turned around a bad team.
Going to be another rough decade in the NFC East for the GMEN.
Unfortunately I don't see us moving forward or getting better with what we have available both in players and management.
Too early for the "I want this guy to coach/run the Giants"?!?!
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It's kind of funny that while the Eagles work diligently to hurt the Giants, the Commanders are sneaking up from behind to take them down
Cowboys are heading in a downward trend (maybe even a death spiral); Giants are at bottom with a sliver of hope of improving in the next couple of years; the Eagles have crested with nowhere to go but down; and the Commanders are the fastest rising team in the east. What a football world we live in
Quote from: MightyGiants on March 02, 2025, 09:25:17 AMThe 49ers are a playoff caliber team as well. If they don't see the value in Deboo, I am not sure how the Commanders will find it.
I think the 49ers are doing a bit of a rebuild and Samuel isn't in their long range plans anymore.
I know Deebo has been banged up and playing at less than 100% a lot but he has played in 15 of 17 games the last 2 years.
Here is the question, would you rather have 2 4th round picks and no Debo Samuel or one 4th round pick and Debo Samuel ?
Deebo is physical. That's his game .always since college. But comes it at a price..but a very reasonable move for both teams.
But you really see Washington far better in approach..legit now..we are the mule train with the baggage
Quote from: AYM on March 02, 2025, 03:45:30 PMI think the 49ers are doing a bit of a rebuild and Samuel isn't in their long range plans anymore.
This is an excellent yet astute observation. As hard as it may seem to believe, and it has nothing to do with local bias, the AZ Cardinals are the up-and-coming team in the NFC West who is poised to challenge San Francisco for the division. GM Monte Ossenfort has done an outstanding job digging that team out of the dumpster and into near playoff contention. They are definitely a team on the rise in the West while there are question marks for the Seahawks and the Rams and 49ers are starting to feel the birds pecking on the back of their helmets.
But, to the 49ers, with Deebo now gone, and Aiyuk with potentially one foot out the door, their receiving game will need a bit of a makeover. Giving the ball to McCaffrey and TE George Kittle only works for so long. But with McCaffrey returning healthy, the offense should get a shot in the arm with his dynamic performance returning. But what folks may not have known is that Head Coach, Kyle Shanahan, has promoted Klay Kubiak to the Offensive Coordinator role (https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/44015081/klay-kubiak-promoted-offensive-coordinator-49ers), and will call all the plays after being given the opportunity to do in situations last season.
On defense, I believe everyone here knew that former Jets' Head Coach, Robert Saleh, became the Defensive Coordinator for the 49ers and will hold that capacity in 2025.
The article in the link above also talks about Brock Purdy in that his QB Coach, Brian Griese, is moving on after three years, and will be replaced by Mick Lombardi, who was a senior offensive assistant last season.
With significant changes to their staff, a big-name player moving on, a huge decision to make whether or not to invest in their young quarterback, the 49ers are at a bit of a crossroads point going into 2025. No longer are they the run-away leaders of the NFC West and every move they make, going forward, must be calculated and result in improving the team's chances for contending for the division where it is no longer a two-horse race with the Rams.
Peace!