From everything we have heard the Giants are going to go for the top end of the corner market. So I am going to breakdown 5-10 players and their potential market value and you tell me who you're taking? I might do these for potential need positions if we there is serious discussion.
1.DJ Reed- 28 years old 5'9 187lbs
4 year 72 million contract projection
I honest think DJ Reed is who the Giants thought Banks would be. A lockdown corner with less than ideal ball skills. He is a press man boundary corner, with 91% of his snaps coming outside.
2024
70.7 PFF grade
#1 in avg separation
#6 in tight window %
#7 in forced incompletions
#18 in completion rate allowed
31 inch arms
2. Charvaruis Ward 28 yes old 6'1 196lbs
3yr 45 million projected contract
80 pff grade in 2022 and 2023
Only allowed .83 yards per snap in cover 3 and we played cover 3 like 8th most in the league last year. Plus he has significant playoff experience. Doesn't want to play on the west coast because of his personal tragedy last year which saw a dip in his game to a 70 pff. I'll count 2023 as his last true year because of the tragedy and he had an 80 pff coverage grade and 5 int. He's that dude basically.
3. Carlton Davis 28 yr old 6'1 206lbs really solid boundary corner with good experience, 11pd, 1FF, 2int in 13 games.
4. Byron Murphys Jr 27 yr old 5'11 190lbs
72.6 pff coverage grade
Seems like a solid #2 but Flores has a tendency to make corners look really good and Murphy only has 1 really strong year of production out of 5, and it was his contract year.
5. Asante Samuel Jr 25 yr old 5'10 180lbs
As much as DJ Reed loves press man, Samuel loves off coverage but his 59.4 coverage grade and 29 tackling grade jump off the page. Only played 4 games in 2024 because of a "stinger".
6. Paulson Adebo 25 yr old 6'2 192lbs
4 year 45 million dollar projected salary
He's coming off an injury otherwise he'd be my cb2 this offseason. Has shown elite ball skills 10int in 4 years and #1 corner potential.
** Jaire Alexander I would put him here as we could likely get him for a 5th but he's had too many injuries, and the suspension for his behavior among other things have me saying no currently.
Who you got?
I mentioned this is another thread, but can DJ Reed truly be relied on as a #1?
He has had Sauce locking down the top options for the last 3 years, so I am a little weary of that. But I also have not watched the Jets a ton
I think we will draft CB1 in this draft within the first three rounds.
At pick 3, if the likely top 3 are Carter, Hunter and Ward, we are probably coming away with one. If we go Carter, I can either see us go CB or OL in round 2. If we go Hunter at 3, we have our CB1 and will focus on both DL and OL in rounds 2 and 3. Maybe a QB enters discussion in round 3-4.
For a team as bad as the Giants are, I have a hard time believing they will pay top dollar at a premium position for a FA that frankly won't move the wins needle probably at all. That is also why I think they address CB1 in the draft.
In FA, I see them targeting a QB which we all know they need and maybe a OL player. That would be my focus. A good FA OL could add maturity and leadership to the OL, something it may need. Great OLs gel into good units. We have hardly done that.
Quote from: Philosophers on March 07, 2025, 06:45:48 AMI think we will draft CB1 in this draft within the first three rounds.
At pick 3, if the likely top 3 are Carter, Hunter and Ward, we are probably coming away with one. If we go Carter, I can either see us go CB or OL in round 2. If we go Hunter at 3, we have our CB1 and will focus on both DL and OL in rounds 2 and 3. Maybe a QB enters discussion in round 3-4.
For a team as bad as the Giants are, I have a hard time believing they will pay top dollar at a premium position for a FA that frankly won't move the wins needle probably at all. That is also why I think they address CB1 in the draft.
In FA, I see them targeting a QB which we all know they need and maybe a OL player. That would be my focus. A good FA OL could add maturity and leadership to the OL, something it may need. Great OLs gel into good units. We have hardly done that.
That was my thinking. The CB draft is deep. If they sign an Aaron Rodgers, Fields or Wilson, they may not draft a QB at three and then if it's Hunter then they would need a veteran presence.
Quote from: Ed Vette on March 07, 2025, 10:45:25 AMThat was my thinking. The CB draft is deep. If they sign an Aaron Rodgers, Fields or Wilson, they may not draft a QB at three and then if it's Hunter then they would need a veteran presence.
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Quote from: Ed Vette on March 07, 2025, 10:45:25 AMThat was my thinking. The CB draft is deep. If they sign an Aaron Rodgers, Fields or Wilson, they may not draft a QB at three and then if it's Hunter then they would need a veteran presence.
A veteran, accurate QB with both Nabers and at least some occasionally Hunter as WR options would be fun to watch especially if we forgot drafting a QB in rounds 2-3 and add another OL and DL players.
I appreciate the logic of saying we should fill the need in the draft. I just don't share the view because filling needs via the draft tends to make teams push teams to favor need over best player available. I think it's been Schoen's penchant to draft for need, that has hurt his draft classes.
Quote from: Philosophers on March 07, 2025, 12:34:48 PMA veteran, accurate QB with both Nabers and at least some occasionally Hunter as WR options would be fun to watch especially if we forgot drafting a QB in rounds 2-3 and add another OL and DL players.
I think they are committed to drafting a QB. Until we get past FA, it's hard to know where. I do believe at least their second pick will be a QB. They need to develop a QB in order to get another year out of Mara. I think they may move up from the second round to get their guy. The other possibility, which I don't want happening, is to trade for a Lawrence or Murray and expect better results here. Rodgers and Wilson would be one year QBs. I still like Wilson, and then draft a QB with the second pick and give him a year.
Quote from: MightyGiants on March 07, 2025, 12:40:58 PMI appreciate the logic of saying we should fill the need in the draft. I just don't share the view because filling needs via the draft tends to make teams push teams to favor need over best player available. I think it's been Schoen's penchant to draft for need, that has hurt his draft classes.
That's a good point.
Quote from: Ed Vette on March 07, 2025, 12:48:24 PMThat's a good point.
If we sign a cb1, rodgers, and Draft Hunter I think he'd player year 1 at Wr to maximize this one year.
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