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Title: Rodgers, Russ or chaos for Big Blue
Post by: MightyGiants on March 10, 2025, 08:08:45 AM
What happens when the QB carousel stops spinning?
Here's where the game of musical chairs stands from a Giants perspective (and mine): if Justin Fields re-signs with Pittsburgh, Daniel Jones re-signs with Minnesota and Sam Darnold goes to Seattle, I think the Giants land Aaron Rodgers.
If any of those first three scenarios goes in another direction - it'll be a bit chaotic in terms of what happens next.If Rodgers ends up in any of the other cities besides East Rutherford - and ESPN's Adam Schefter dropped his name in connection with Pittsburgh early Monday morning - I think Giants will end up with Russell Wilson.
If it's not Russ, I don't know what the pivot will be.

https://www.northjersey.com/story/sports/nfl/giants/2025/03/06/new-york-giants-free-agency-rumors-news/81664608007/
Title: Re: Rodgers, Russ or chaos for Big Blue
Post by: Ed Vette on March 10, 2025, 08:22:58 AM
He's been my choice from the start. If not him then a Minshew type journeyman.
Title: Re: Rodgers, Russ or chaos for Big Blue
Post by: MightyGiants on March 10, 2025, 08:25:20 AM
https://x.com/rydunleavy/status/1899070128467153142
Title: Re: Rodgers, Russ or chaos for Big Blue
Post by: MightyGiants on March 10, 2025, 08:46:16 AM
https://x.com/JordanRaanan/status/1899077178584641904
Title: Re: Rodgers, Russ or chaos for Big Blue
Post by: uconnjack8 on March 10, 2025, 08:48:28 AM
So is the thought here that even though the Steelers traded for Metcalf, who had his best years with Wilson, they are not going to keep Wilson?

Have a hard time thinking Fields is their top choice.  Would understand if Wilson is not retained, but would be surprised if Fields was the top of their depth chart heading into camp
Title: Re: Rodgers, Russ or chaos for Big Blue
Post by: Ed Vette on March 10, 2025, 08:53:49 AM
I think it's between the Steelers and Vikings for Rodgers. It depends on what the Vikings do with Darnold.
Title: Re: Rodgers, Russ or chaos for Big Blue
Post by: MightyGiants on March 10, 2025, 08:54:15 AM
Quote from: uconnjack8 on March 10, 2025, 08:48:28 AMSo is the thought here that even though the Steelers traded for Metcalf, who had his best years with Wilson, they are not going to keep Wilson?

Have a hard time thinking Fields is their top choice.  Would understand if Wilson is not retained, but would be surprised if Fields was the top of their depth chart heading into camp


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Adam Schefter with the latest on the QB position with the Steelers: "Aaron Rogers is an option in Pittsburgh. Now I'm not telling you it's going to be Aaron Rodgers, but they're talking to Justin Fields, but Justin Fields is talking to the Steelers and Jets and Russell Wilson is there and they just traded for DK Metcalf and there's Aaron Rodgers. So the Steelers could take this a few different ways. Now Justin Fields is interesting because again I think that they have been interested in trying to work something out, but I think Justin Fields wants to see what other options are out there most notably the New York Jets and he can't really make that decision until after the negotiating period begins at noon today. So Pittsburgh is going to wait to see what he does, but at the same time they know that Aaron and Russell are out there and I say both of that because I think they're both in play." #Steelers #NFL
Title: Re: Rodgers, Russ or chaos for Big Blue
Post by: MightyGiants on March 10, 2025, 09:06:22 AM
https://x.com/art_stapleton/status/1899083142184501566

https://x.com/DMRussini/status/1899083510817620180
Title: Re: Rodgers, Russ or chaos for Big Blue
Post by: MightyGiants on March 10, 2025, 09:11:45 AM
https://x.com/ChaseDaniel/status/1899084980489539822
Title: Re: Rodgers, Russ or chaos for Big Blue
Post by: PSUBeirut on March 10, 2025, 09:20:25 AM
The bottom line is that we are likely to be last in line when the carousel stops spinning, because we suck as an organization.  This is just another effect of long-term ineptitude- absolutely zero veteran QB prospects chomping at the bit to come here.  They'll come here because it's their last chance to start in the NFL....that's it.  That's the whole reason.  And they'll exhaust all other options of doing this prior to signing with us.
Title: Re: Rodgers, Russ or chaos for Big Blue
Post by: MightyGiants on March 10, 2025, 09:29:34 AM
Quote from: PSUBeirut on March 10, 2025, 09:20:25 AMThe bottom line is that we are likely to be last in line when the carousel stops spinning, because we suck as an organization.  This is just another effect of long-term ineptitude- absolutely zero veteran QB prospects chomping at the bit to come here.  They'll come here because it's their last chance to start in the NFL....that's it.  That's the whole reason.  And they'll exhaust all other options of doing this prior to signing with us.


https://x.com/GiantsRealist/status/1899081188955861220
Title: Re: Rodgers, Russ or chaos for Big Blue
Post by: T200 on March 10, 2025, 09:42:09 AM
Quote from: PSUBeirut on March 10, 2025, 09:20:25 AMThe bottom line is that we are likely to be last in line when the carousel stops spinning, because we suck as an organization.  This is just another effect of long-term ineptitude- absolutely zero veteran QB prospects chomping at the bit to come here.  They'll come here because it's their last chance to start in the NFL....that's it.  That's the whole reason.  And they'll exhaust all other options of doing this prior to signing with us.
It's quite obvious that any veteran QB who signs here is only starting for this season, barring any injury to the drafted QB. They know they will be Kurt Warner 2.0. They won't get a long-term deal. That's the case regardless of how the organization is viewed.
Title: Re: Rodgers, Russ or chaos for Big Blue
Post by: EDjohnst1981 on March 10, 2025, 09:55:58 AM
This was the obvious outcome once they had to exit the awful Jones contract.

I'm not sure what anyone else was expecting.

However, if we can get 2-3 years out of Rodgers (and he plays like last year or a little above) I'll be happier as that will be the best QB performance since Eli.

But ultimately, this is the outcome of backing the guy who wasn't the guy.
Title: Re: Rodgers, Russ or chaos for Big Blue
Post by: uconnjack8 on March 10, 2025, 09:58:17 AM
Quote from: MightyGiants on March 10, 2025, 08:54:15 AMSteelers Depot 7⃣
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Adam Schefter with the latest on the QB position with the Steelers: "Aaron Rogers is an option in Pittsburgh. Now I'm not telling you it's going to be Aaron Rodgers, but they're talking to Justin Fields, but Justin Fields is talking to the Steelers and Jets and Russell Wilson is there and they just traded for DK Metcalf and there's Aaron Rodgers. So the Steelers could take this a few different ways. Now Justin Fields is interesting because again I think that they have been interested in trying to work something out, but I think Justin Fields wants to see what other options are out there most notably the New York Jets and he can't really make that decision until after the negotiating period begins at noon today. So Pittsburgh is going to wait to see what he does, but at the same time they know that Aaron and Russell are out there and I say both of that because I think they're both in play." #Steelers #NFL

That's a lot of words for "I don't know what the Steelers are going to do at QB".
Title: Re: Rodgers, Russ or chaos for Big Blue
Post by: Trench on March 10, 2025, 09:58:53 AM
Wow.
For Toomer to publicly say that about Schoen. Whoah! Not good for Schoen
Title: Re: Rodgers, Russ or chaos for Big Blue
Post by: MightyGiants on March 10, 2025, 09:59:36 AM
https://x.com/RalphVacchiano/status/1899093044449710127
Title: Re: Rodgers, Russ or chaos for Big Blue
Post by: Trench on March 10, 2025, 10:00:13 AM
My prediction for who we will wind up with:

1. Rodgers
2. Cousins
3. Wilson
Title: Re: Rodgers, Russ or chaos for Big Blue
Post by: Gman329 on March 10, 2025, 10:08:34 AM
Quote from: MightyGiants on March 10, 2025, 08:25:20 AMhttps://x.com/rydunleavy/status/1899070128467153142

This makes no sense.  The Vikings will have an opening if Darnold leaves.  Daniel Jones is not blocking Aaron Rodgers from going to Minnesota.....unless you're gonna tell me the Vikes are ready and willing to roll with Jones as their QB?  I don't see it. 
Title: Re: Rodgers, Russ or chaos for Big Blue
Post by: Woody on March 10, 2025, 10:16:08 AM
Let's not forget.     The Giants are one of the worst teams in league......why would a good vet at end of career want to sign with them ?  Or will they go to a contender if possible... Pittsburg.  Seattle etc.
I think they will have to settle for a second level guy if they can get one.....
Sheon has not shown himself to be at top of FA,s list....desperate time for him and Daboll....lets see what happens.....sad when offseason is more exciting than the in season games


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Title: Re: Rodgers, Russ or chaos for Big Blue
Post by: Trench on March 10, 2025, 10:32:35 AM
Quote from: Woody on March 10, 2025, 10:16:08 AMLet's not forget.     The Giants are one of the worst teams in league......why would a good vet at end of career want to sign with them ?  Or will they go to a contender if possible... Pittsburg.  Seattle etc.
I think they will have to settle for a second level guy if they can get one.....
Sheon has not shown himself to be at top of FA,s list....desperate time for him and Daboll....lets see what happens.....sad when offseason is more exciting than the in season games


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I think Rodgers would like nothing more than to prove to the Jets he wasn't done.

What better way than to bring the Giants to the playoffs with star studded Nabers and Theo.

Just my take
Title: Re: Rodgers, Russ or chaos for Big Blue
Post by: londonblue on March 10, 2025, 10:33:45 AM
Throwing serious money at any of these would be a mistake. I'd rather bring in two from the unloved/weaker market young reclamation project grouping of Zach Wilson, Mac Jones, Trey Lance, Desmond Ridder, Bailey Zappe and even Drew Lock. Then draft another guy. The reboots would be on cheap one year prove it deals and the draftee on a rookie contract. Let them battle it out in camp and go from there.
Title: Re: Rodgers, Russ or chaos for Big Blue
Post by: Soundwave401 on March 10, 2025, 10:59:38 AM
Quote from: londonblue on March 10, 2025, 10:33:45 AMThrowing serious money at any of these would be a mistake. I'd rather bring in two from the unloved/weaker market young reclamation project grouping of Zach Wilson, Mac Jones, Trey Lance, Desmond Ridder, Bailey Zappe and even Drew Lock. Then draft another guy. The reboots would be on cheap one year prove it deals and the draftee on a rookie contract. Let them battle it out in camp and go from there.

Yea but that is the divide between fan think and what an administration with their backs up against the wall thinks. As fans we look at the schedule next year and realize the chance of anything meaningful happening is slim. Even with Rodgers they may be a fringe wild card contender at best (assuming everything doesn't implode like the Jets) and for Schoen and Daboll that shows progress and buys them another year.

My fan think.. I'd prefer bring in Winston let him go out there and sling. Nabers, Theo and Hyatt would all get some major production and development boosts. The season would be fun to watch even if they are losing and at some point you hand it off to the rookie to finish it out and get some growing pains out of the way.

That to me is a more productive season then the Rodgers circus would be.
Title: Re: Rodgers, Russ or chaos for Big Blue
Post by: MightyGiants on March 10, 2025, 12:25:34 PM

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Title: Re: Rodgers, Russ or chaos for Big Blue
Post by: MightyGiants on March 10, 2025, 12:47:34 PM
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Sources: Rams are re-signing QB Jimmy Garoppolo to a one-year deal. Garoppolo was generating interest from other teams but, like Matthew Stafford, opted to return to Los Angeles.
Title: Re: Rodgers, Russ or chaos for Big Blue
Post by: andrew_nyGiants on March 10, 2025, 01:32:38 PM
Amani just cemented my suspicion. Another inept move (or lack thereof) by John Mara.
There hasn't been a decent GM/HC hire for this franchise since Wellington was alive.
This is why I was campaigning for Bellichick, at least he could attract talent to join the team.
Title: Re: Rodgers, Russ or chaos for Big Blue
Post by: Ed Vette on March 10, 2025, 02:04:03 PM
I would be very happy with Russell Wilson. He was 10th in passing grade, 1st in 20+ yards passing grade with a 97.3, with 21 Big Time Throws of 20+, and 1st in BBT% of 20+ yards. His stats were slightly better than Stafford. Yes, he's 75% of the QB he was last decade, but he's a bridge while they draft Dart and he learns. And yes, I would draft Dart at #3. Nabors and Hyatt will be very happy if they sign Wilson. 
Title: Re: Rodgers, Russ or chaos for Big Blue
Post by: andrew_nyGiants on March 10, 2025, 03:12:36 PM
Quote from: Trench on March 10, 2025, 10:00:13 AMMy prediction for who we will wind up with:

1. Rodgers
2. Cousins
3. Wilson

A very high probability that if Cousins can get out of Atlanta he will end up in Cleveland.
Title: Re: Rodgers, Russ or chaos for Big Blue
Post by: Painter on March 10, 2025, 03:16:54 PM
It is at least interesting, if not unsettling given the litany of uncertainty and chance which we find necessary to author for ourselves, that we have moved focus from rookie QB in the Draft to veteran QB in FA or via trade. In the Giants case, of course, it could involve both a rookie and a veteran in the here and now. Indeed, the decision as to the identity of the veteran will likely influence who or what the Giants choose with their overall No.3, or with a later 1st/current 2nd Rounder.

I am not in favor of a trade up from 3; neither am I a fan of Aaron Rodgers as Giants QB. So, while that leaves it horses for courses, a strictly a bridge to later in season starter or a wait until next year pick and a bit of a longer bridge, I am already on record as to my preference for Marcus Mariota/ Jaxson Dart and see no reason to change basis any of this thread's ifs, ands, and buts media mimicry. 

Cheers!

 
Title: Re: Rodgers, Russ or chaos for Big Blue
Post by: spiderblue43 on March 10, 2025, 04:03:26 PM
Giants are being avoided like the plague. Let's face it .no one wants this dead rotting corpse ..not even Rodgers .Russell Wilson .etc 
Title: Re: Rodgers, Russ or chaos for Big Blue
Post by: spiderblue43 on March 10, 2025, 04:06:02 PM
Larry...

Okay with that. Jaxson Dart has potential. Mariota a bridge.
Title: Re: Rodgers, Russ or chaos for Big Blue
Post by: MightyGiants on March 10, 2025, 05:53:16 PM
https://x.com/mikegarafolo/status/1899215626868064360?s=46&t=1vcQIN8GqF5J2oLdxEVEJQ
Title: Re: Rodgers, Russ or chaos for Big Blue
Post by: MightyGiants on March 10, 2025, 06:11:05 PM
https://x.com/jordanraanan/status/1899220386069307712?s=46&t=1vcQIN8GqF5J2oLdxEVEJQ
Title: Re: Rodgers, Russ or chaos for Big Blue
Post by: Ed Vette on March 10, 2025, 06:14:37 PM
Quote from: MightyGiants on March 10, 2025, 06:11:05 PMhttps://x.com/jordanraanan/status/1899220386069307712?s=46&t=1vcQIN8GqF5J2oLdxEVEJQ
Why does he come up with a longshot head scratcher, worthy of garbage time?
Title: Re: Rodgers, Russ or chaos for Big Blue
Post by: MightyGiants on March 10, 2025, 06:34:24 PM
https://x.com/bigblueview/status/1899226212871897303?s=46&t=1vcQIN8GqF5J2oLdxEVEJQ
Title: Re: Rodgers, Russ or chaos for Big Blue
Post by: Woody on March 10, 2025, 07:31:57 PM
At this point why would Rogers not sign with Steelers..?...
Much more talent on the team, one of best coaches in league ....Metcalf and Pickens...probably will make playoffs...better run game better line and on and on compared to the Giants.
Only thing holding him back might be the money...if not s much as Giants offer.
Giants looking like a team that there really at this point...losers. With a lame duck coach and GM....thanks Mara for continuing to make the Giants look like a last resort for Fa's.


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Title: Re: Rodgers, Russ or chaos for Big Blue
Post by: Jclayton92 on March 11, 2025, 12:10:37 AM
Hearing Rodgers to the Steelers is all but done, 2yr 90 million.
Title: Re: Rodgers, Russ or chaos for Big Blue
Post by: EDjohnst1981 on March 11, 2025, 06:37:48 AM
Quote from: Jclayton92 on March 11, 2025, 12:10:37 AMHearing Rodgers to the Steelers is all but done, 2yr 90 million.

That's a richer than I thought he'd get.

Where do the Giants go from here?
Title: Re: Rodgers, Russ or chaos for Big Blue
Post by: Ed Vette on March 11, 2025, 07:19:47 AM
Quote from: EDjohnst1981 on March 11, 2025, 06:37:48 AMThat's a richer than I thought he'd get.

Where do the Giants go from here?
Wilson hopefully
Title: Re: Rodgers, Russ or chaos for Big Blue
Post by: T200 on March 11, 2025, 09:16:52 AM
Quote from: Jclayton92 on March 11, 2025, 12:10:37 AMHearing Rodgers to the Steelers is all but done, 2yr 90 million.
I certainly hope so.
Title: Re: Rodgers, Russ or chaos for Big Blue
Post by: MightyGiants on March 11, 2025, 11:03:39 AM
Three teams (Steelers, Vikings, and Giants) need a veteran QB

The two left:

Rodgers
Wilson

So who gets left chasing Jamis Winston?
Title: Re: Rodgers, Russ or chaos for Big Blue
Post by: Jclayton92 on March 11, 2025, 01:39:54 PM
https://x.com/ItsGiantsSzn/status/1899463865752076638

https://x.com/ItsGiantsSzn/status/1899463865752076638
Title: Re: Rodgers, Russ or chaos for Big Blue
Post by: Ed Vette on March 11, 2025, 01:43:11 PM
Quote from: Jclayton92 on March 11, 2025, 01:39:54 PMhttps://x.com/ItsGiantsSzn/status/1899463865752076638
The Planes will be flying come November...
Title: Re: Rodgers, Russ or chaos for Big Blue
Post by: Philosophers on March 11, 2025, 01:44:09 PM
Great to know hope is all lost for next season now.  As fans hope is what we at least want.  To not have that is just a slow death.
Title: Re: Rodgers, Russ or chaos for Big Blue
Post by: T200 on March 11, 2025, 01:49:55 PM
Quote from: Philosophers on March 11, 2025, 01:44:09 PMGreat to know hope is all lost for next season now.  As fans hope is what we at least want.  To not have that is just a slow death.
You don't strike me as the Chicken Little type.  :P

It's Day 2 of FA and the draft is next month. So much can change between now and the end of the draft.

You should probably wait until Schoen moves up to #1 and picks Shedeur before declaring the season dead!  =))  =))
Title: Re: Rodgers, Russ or chaos for Big Blue
Post by: Philosophers on March 11, 2025, 01:57:31 PM
Quote from: T200 on March 11, 2025, 01:49:55 PMYou don't strike me as the Chicken Little type.  :P

It's Day 2 of FA and the draft is next month. So much can change between now and the end of the draft.

You should probably wait until Schoen moves up to #1 and picks Shedeur before declaring the season dead!  =))  =))

I am not my friend but I have seen this movie and know how it ends.  The Shedeur trade up for multiple picks will be the last stabbing but I will be already dead.
Title: Re: Rodgers, Russ or chaos for Big Blue
Post by: babywhales on March 11, 2025, 01:58:29 PM
Quote from: T200 on March 11, 2025, 01:49:55 PMYou don't strike me as the Chicken Little type.  :P

It's Day 2 of FA and the draft is next month. So much can change between now and the end of the draft.

You should probably wait until Schoen moves up to #1 and picks Shedeur before declaring the season dead!  =))  =))
Churned my stomach just reading this.

If the Giants do that, I am getting a bird dog and spending the fall training, it.
Title: Re: Rodgers, Russ or chaos for Big Blue
Post by: Ed Vette on March 11, 2025, 01:59:47 PM
Quote from: Philosophers on March 11, 2025, 01:57:31 PMI am not my friend but I have seen this movie and know how it ends.  The Shedeur trade up for multiple picks will be the last stabbing but I will be already dead.
If they trade up for Shedeur, then Daboll isn't the QB Guru he's been made out to be.
Title: Re: Rodgers, Russ or chaos for Big Blue
Post by: Philosophers on March 11, 2025, 02:03:40 PM
Quote from: Ed Vette on March 11, 2025, 01:59:47 PMIf they trade up for Shedeur, then Daboll isn't the QB Guru he's been made out to be.

He has not proven it to me Ed.  Just another marginal HC hire with fanfare.  He's great at utilizing the checkdown to a 4 yard pass completion on 3rd and 8.
Title: Re: Rodgers, Russ or chaos for Big Blue
Post by: T200 on March 11, 2025, 02:05:54 PM
Quote from: Philosophers on March 11, 2025, 01:57:31 PMI am not my friend but I have seen this movie and know how it ends.  The Shedeur trade up for multiple picks will be the last stabbing but I will be already dead.
It's a little comfort that Schoen had a solid draft last year. Let's see what happens with this one.
Title: Re: Rodgers, Russ or chaos for Big Blue
Post by: T200 on March 11, 2025, 02:13:54 PM
Quote from: babywhales on March 11, 2025, 01:58:29 PMChurned my stomach just reading this.

If the Giants do that, I am getting a bird dog and spending the fall training, it.
I was actually laughing out loud as I typed it!  :laugh:  :laugh: