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Title: NYG Free Agent Summary as of 3/11 9 am
Post by: MightyGiants on March 11, 2025, 08:56:13 AM
• CB Paulson Adebo: 3 years, $54M
• WR Darius Slayton: 3 years, $36M
• DE Chauncey Golston: 3 years, $19.5M
• OT James Hudson: 2 years, $12M
• DL Roy Robertson-Harris: 2 years, $9M
• LB Chris Board, 2 years, up to $6M  (signed for Special Team, mostly)
• S Jevon Holland, 3 years, up to $45.3M


Walter Football signing grades

Giants sign DE Chauncey Golston (3 years, $19.5 million): B Grade


The Giants already had two dangerous edge rushers, but in a division with Jalen Hurts and Jayden Daniels, you can never have enough talent as far as pass rushers are concerned. Chauncey Golston hasn't done all that much in his career to justify this price tag, but he logged six sacks last season and showed potential. He's somewhat young (27), so perhaps he can continue to improve with the Giants. This signing makes sense and should be graded in the "B" range.

Giants sign CB Paulson Adebo (3 years, $54 million): C+ Grade

The Giants needed a top cornerback. They've decided to pay Paulson Adebo like a top cornerback, but I'm still not sure if they have a top cornerback.

Adebo played well for the Saints last year before breaking his leg in Week 7. He was a solid defender, but wasn't anything special. He play certainly didn't warrant this huge price tag. However, Adebo is young (26) and has talent, so perhaps he'll grow into the role. This is likely an overpay, however.

Giants re-sign WR Darius Slayton (3 years, $36 million): C- Grade

Giants fans hoping for their team to find an upgrade at receiver to complement Malik Nabers must be disappointed. Darius Slayton has been a mediocre producer for the Giants in the six years he's been with the team. That will continue on this colossal 3-year contract. I don't understand why the Giants believe Slayton is worth this sum of money, but we've seen some wild contracts given to receivers over the years, so I can't say I'm surprised to see something like this.

2024 PFF Grades and age

CB Paulson Adebo- Age- 25.6
63.3 overall
47.6 run
66.2 tackle
91.5 pass rush
63.9 coverage

WR Darius Slayton Age- 28.1
59.0 Total
59.9 Pass
74.3 Pass blocking
68.7 Run
47.1 Run Blocking

DE Chauncey Golston age- 27
65.3 Total
56.8 Run Defense
40.1 Tackling
60.7 Pass Rush
68.9 Coverage


OT James Hudson  Age- 25.8

50.4 Offense
40.2 Pass Block
57.7 Run Block

DL Roy Robertson-Harris  Age- 31.6
52.8  Defense
56.6 Run Defense
32.1 Tackle
54.6 Pass Rush
55.2 Coverage


LB Chris Board Age- 29.6
65.5 Defense
58.6 Run Defense
66.6 Tackling
63.2 Pass Rush
66.4 Coverage

S Jevon Holland Age- 25
Note had much higher grades in previous seasons
63.0 total
73.4 Run defense
48.5 Tackling
62.5 Pass Rush
57.1 Coverage

Walter Football pre-signing commentary


Jevon Holland, S, Dolphins. Age: 25. (https://walterfootball.com/images/fball/star.gif) (https://walterfootball.com/images/fball/star.gif) (https://walterfootball.com/images/fball/star.gif) (https://walterfootball.com/images/fball/star.gif)
Jevon Holland is a very athletic safety. He's coming off a down 2024, but had a tremendous 2023 campaign. He's only 25, so he should be able to rebound.

Darius Slayton, WR, Giants. Age: 28. (https://walterfootball.com/images/fball/star.gif) (https://walterfootball.com/images/fball/star.gif)

Re-signed with Giants (3 years, $36 million)

Darius Slayton has had some big games when he's served as the top receiver on the Giants.

15. James Hudson, OT, Browns. Age: 26. (https://walterfootball.com/images/fball/star.gif) (https://walterfootball.com/images/fball/halfstar.gif) — Signed with Giants (2 years)

Chauncey Golston, DE, Cowboys. Age: 27. (https://walterfootball.com/images/fball/star.gif) (https://walterfootball.com/images/fball/star.gif)
Chauncey Golston improved as a pass rusher last year, notching six sacks.


56. Roy Robertson-Harris, DT, Seahawks. Age: 32. (https://walterfootball.com/images/fball/star.gif) (https://walterfootball.com/images/fball/halfstar.gif) — Signed with Giants (2 years, $9 million)

39. Chris Board, ILB, Ravens. Age: 30. (https://walterfootball.com/images/fball/star.gif) (https://walterfootball.com/images/fball/halfstar.gif) — Signed with Giants (2 years, $6 million)

Paulson Adebo, CB, Saints. Age: 26. (https://walterfootball.com/images/fball/star.gif) (https://walterfootball.com/images/fball/star.gif)

Signed with Giants

Paulson Adebo played well last year until breaking his leg in Week 7.

https://walterfootball.com/freeagents2025CB.php
Title: Re: Free Agent Summary as of 3/11 9 am
Post by: MightyGiants on March 11, 2025, 09:09:51 AM
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Title: Re: Free Agent Summary as of 3/11 9 am
Post by: MightyGiants on March 11, 2025, 09:19:09 AM
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Title: Re: NYG Free Agent Summary as of 3/11 9 am
Post by: Stringer Bell on March 11, 2025, 09:25:22 AM
Quote from: MightyGiants on March 11, 2025, 09:19:09 AM(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GlwsJEgXAAAvESB?format=jpg&name=large)

Very disappointing, as a whole, when you consider they spent all that $ and they've only upgraded 2 positions.
Title: Re: NYG Free Agent Summary as of 3/11 9 am
Post by: MightyGiants on March 11, 2025, 10:04:34 AM
https://x.com/The33rdTeamFB/status/1899460934726209865
Title: Re: NYG Free Agent Summary as of 3/11 9 am
Post by: MightyGiants on March 11, 2025, 10:05:55 AM
From a Giants mouthpiece


https://x.com/NYPost_Schwartz/status/1899454729949712615
Title: Re: NYG Free Agent Summary as of 3/11 9 am
Post by: MightyGiants on March 11, 2025, 10:06:41 AM
https://x.com/AlbertBreer/status/1899458908424392971
Title: Re: NYG Free Agent Summary as of 3/11 9 am
Post by: madbadger on March 11, 2025, 10:19:05 AM
We have cap space but seem to be attracted to bargain basement players. I don't see this free agent haul moving the needle much if at all. Our biggest signee is coming of a broken femur. As a franchise with injury issues how does that make sense.
Title: Re: NYG Free Agent Summary as of 3/11 9 am
Post by: Jclayton92 on March 11, 2025, 10:33:51 AM
Just for context, this is the weakest Free Agent class in a long, long time. I think the Giants have killed it so far. People that don't like Schoen and Daboll will xxxx on it regardless but they have attacked areas of need that everyone wanted them to attack.

Golson and Harris add much needed depth to the line for really cheap. Hudson offers us an actual swing tackle for the first time ever, resigning Slayton allows us to go into rhe draft without holes, or over pay for some elder wr. Jevon holland and Adebo completely transform our secondary and are great players.

@MightyGiants have you found the guarenteed money for any of these other deals? I saw Hollands was only 30 million which is a steal imo.
Title: Re: NYG Free Agent Summary as of 3/11 9 am
Post by: MightyGiants on March 11, 2025, 10:40:17 AM
@Jclayton92

I couldn't find them seperately, but they are all on this team list

https://overthecap.com/contracts
Title: Re: NYG Free Agent Summary as of 3/11 9 am
Post by: Jclayton92 on March 11, 2025, 10:45:37 AM
Quote from: MightyGiants on March 11, 2025, 10:40:17 AM@Jclayton92

I couldn't find them seperately, but they are all on this team list

https://overthecap.com/contracts
They still don't have the guarantees on there.
Title: Re: NYG Free Agent Summary as of 3/11 9 am
Post by: MightyGiants on March 11, 2025, 10:46:57 AM
Quote from: Jclayton92 on March 11, 2025, 10:45:37 AMThey still don't have the guarantees on there.

If it's currently zero, it's because the number is still unknown
Title: Re: NYG Free Agent Summary as of 3/11 9 am
Post by: babywhales on March 11, 2025, 11:05:15 AM
When the line has been a problem as long as it has, the price tag can not be an excuse. 
 

I would rather sign a guard for Slaytons 3 year 36 mill then have kept Slayton. You could probably of signed a Tevon Jenkins for that

Fix the damn line

Title: Re: NYG Free Agent Summary as of 3/11 9 am
Post by: Brooklyn Dave on March 11, 2025, 11:41:40 AM
I am kinda ambivalent with the FA signings . I don't think any of them moves the needle substantially. Maybe Holland does a little and possibly Gholston but other than that none thrill me .
Title: Re: NYG Free Agent Summary as of 3/11 9 am
Post by: MightyGiants on March 11, 2025, 11:46:38 AM
Quote from: Brooklyn Dave on March 11, 2025, 11:41:40 AMI am kinda ambivalent with the FA signings . I don't think any of them moves the needle substantially. Maybe Holland does a little and possibly Gholston but other than that none thrill me .

This wasn't a great free agent class and teams had lots of money.  I didn't have very high expectations
Title: Re: NYG Free Agent Summary as of 3/11 9 am
Post by: MightyGiants on March 11, 2025, 11:58:46 AM
Dan Duggan
@DDuggan21
OL James Hudson contract details with the Giants, per source: 2 years, $11M with $3.5M guaranteed. He can earn an additional $3M per year in unspecified playing time incentives. 

Cap hits:
2025: $4.25M
2026: $6.75M

Giants could move on after this year with $1.75M in dead money.
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Dan Duggan
@DDuggan21
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CB Paulson Adebo contract details with the Giants, per source: 3 years, $54M with $38.5M guaranteed. He can earn an additional $1M per year in incentives (likely Pro Bowl/All-Pro).

Cap hits:
2025: $12M
2026: $23M
2027: $19M
Title: Re: NYG Free Agent Summary as of 3/11 9 am
Post by: MightyGiants on March 11, 2025, 12:16:10 PM
Aaron Wilson
@AaronWilson_NFL
#Giants three-year, $54 million Paulson Adebo deal, $38.5 million guaranteed, $15M signing bonus, salaries $6.25M (gtd), $17.25M (gtd for inj, $13.5M gtd skill, cap at signing,$3.75M gtd if on roster 5th day 2026 lg yr, $10.25M; $3M 5th day 2027 lg yr roster bonus, annual $1M Honors incentive


Aaron Wilson
@AaronWilson_NFL
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5m
#Giants James Hudson deal: two years, $11M base value, plus $3M playtime incentives annual can push value to $17M; $3.5M signing bonus, salaries $2.3M (gtd), $4.8M; $10K per game active roster bonus 2025, $$60K per game active roster bonus 2026
Title: Re: NYG Free Agent Summary as of 3/11 9 am
Post by: Bob In PA on March 11, 2025, 12:22:12 PM
Quote from: Jclayton92 on March 11, 2025, 10:33:51 AMJust for context, this is the weakest Free Agent class in a long, long time. I think the Giants have killed it so far.

J: I completely agree. However, IMO it's going to be hard to fail to improve their crummy roster, so "killing it" is the least we fans should expect of them.  lol
Title: Re: NYG Free Agent Summary as of 3/11 9 am
Post by: Jclayton92 on March 11, 2025, 01:07:02 PM
Quote from: MightyGiants on March 11, 2025, 11:58:46 AMDan Duggan
@DDuggan21
OL James Hudson contract details with the Giants, per source: 2 years, $11M with $3.5M guaranteed. He can earn an additional $3M per year in unspecified playing time incentives. 

Cap hits:
2025: $4.25M
2026: $6.75M

Giants could move on after this year with $1.75M in dead money.
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Dan Duggan
@DDuggan21
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CB Paulson Adebo contract details with the Giants, per source: 3 years, $54M with $38.5M guaranteed. He can earn an additional $1M per year in incentives (likely Pro Bowl/All-Pro).

Cap hits:
2025: $12M
2026: $23M
2027: $19M
See this is what I was talking about yesterday, Hudson is likely going to cost us 4 million guaranteed a year, for a swing tackle which is cheap. The other contracts only have a little guarenteed so while they look like big contracts they really aren't. We got solid depth for cheap.
Title: Re: NYG Free Agent Summary as of 3/11 9 am
Post by: katkavage on March 11, 2025, 01:11:37 PM
Quote from: Bob In PA on March 11, 2025, 12:22:12 PMJ: I completely agree. However, IMO it's going to be hard to fail to improve their crummy roster. lol
Free agency is Schoen's strength. His weakness, however, is what should be the backbone and foundation of the team: the draft. Free agents are signed to supplement what you've built through the draft.
Title: Re: NYG Free Agent Summary as of 3/11 9 am
Post by: Bob In PA on March 11, 2025, 01:20:27 PM
Quote from: katkavage on March 11, 2025, 01:11:37 PMFree agency is Schoen's strength. His weakness, however, is what should be the backbone and foundation of the team: the draft. Free agents are signed to supplement what you've built through the draft.

kat: So (to use an vehicle analogy) Schoen is really good at shining a car that has a bad paint job. lol
Title: Re: NYG Free Agent Summary as of 3/11 9 am
Post by: MightyGiants on March 11, 2025, 02:18:37 PM

Aaron Wilson
@AaronWilson_NFL
#Giants Darius Slayton three years, $36 million, $22M gtd, $9M signing bonus, salaries $3.25M (gtd), $12.25M ($9.75M gtd), $6.749M; $29,412 per game active roster bonus annual, $250K workout bonus annual, $2.5M 5th day 2027 league year roster bonus