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Title: Ashton Jeanty
Post by: MightyGiants on March 26, 2025, 07:50:31 PM
Impressive, I hope the Cowboys don't draft him

https://x.com/the33rdteamfb/status/1905031895890686294?s=46&t=1vcQIN8GqF5J2oLdxEVEJQ
Title: Re: Ashton Jeanty
Post by: killarich on March 26, 2025, 09:25:09 PM
Quote from: MightyGiants on March 26, 2025, 07:50:31 PMImpressive, I hope the Cowboys don't draft him

https://x.com/the33rdteamfb/status/1905031895890686294?s=46&t=1vcQIN8GqF5J2oLdxEVEJQ

I know he's probably going top 10
....but if he slipped at giants trades back into the first to get him ... I would not be mad at all .... Him and Tracy as a 1-2 punch could be pretty deadly ......'still got Nabers and hopefully decent qb play

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Title: Re: Ashton Jeanty
Post by: PSUBeirut on March 26, 2025, 09:44:13 PM
Maybe. Abdul Carter and Penn State's D brought him down to earth in the playoffs this year.
Title: Re: Ashton Jeanty
Post by: MightyGiants on March 27, 2025, 09:29:19 AM
Quote from: killarich on March 26, 2025, 09:25:09 PMI know he's probably going top 10
....but if he slipped at giants trades back into the first to get him ... I would not be mad at all .... Him and Tracy as a 1-2 punch could be pretty deadly ......'still got Nabers and hopefully decent qb play

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Nearly everyone faulted the Giants for letting Barkley walk.  Image if they trade down and take Jeanty to replace him.

I am not advocating for that move, but it would be interesting, especially with the resurgence of the importance of the running back.
Title: Re: Ashton Jeanty
Post by: Gmo11 on March 27, 2025, 10:24:29 AM
Quote from: MightyGiants on March 27, 2025, 09:29:19 AMNearly everyone faulted the Giants for letting Barkley walk.  Image if they trade down and take Jeanty to replace him.

I am not advocating for that move, but it would be interesting, especially with the resurgence of the importance of the running back.

The same people would flip out saying you can't take a RB in the 1st round.  Plus Tracy looked really good last year so I don't think they'd do it anyway.
Title: Re: Ashton Jeanty
Post by: MightyGiants on March 27, 2025, 10:28:42 AM
Quote from: Gmo11 on March 27, 2025, 10:24:29 AMThe same people would flip out saying you can't take a RB in the 1st round.  Plus Tracy looked really good last year so I don't think they'd do it anyway.

While I liked what I saw from Tracy last season, he wasn't perfect. I would feel more comfortable with him as part of a duo than counting on him being the bell cow RB.
Title: Re: Ashton Jeanty
Post by: Gmo11 on March 27, 2025, 10:31:25 AM
Quote from: MightyGiants on March 27, 2025, 10:28:42 AMWhile I liked what I saw from Tracy last season, he wasn't perfect. I would feel more comfortable with him as part of a duo than counting on him being the bell cow RB.

I would expect a later round pick at RB again to team with him for sure.  Don't think they'd give him 30 carries a game.  I also think he's going to improve a bit given he already had limited experience at the position even in college and still looked pretty darn good last year.
Title: Re: Ashton Jeanty
Post by: Puffy on March 27, 2025, 11:18:20 AM
Quote from: MightyGiants on March 27, 2025, 10:28:42 AMWhile I liked what I saw from Tracy last season, he wasn't perfect. I would feel more comfortable with him as part of a duo than counting on him being the bell cow RB.

This is where I am at.  Tracy seems best suited as a combo back.  More Kareem Hunt rather than Nick Chubb (styles are different but my point is the second "lead" of 2 headed monster).  I'd like to get the Chubb portion of that monster.

I'd love a shot at Cam Skattebo.  Dude reminds me of a modern-day Rob Carpenter.
Title: Re: Ashton Jeanty
Post by: MrGap92 on March 27, 2025, 11:27:11 AM
Quote from: MightyGiants on March 27, 2025, 09:29:19 AMNearly everyone faulted the Giants for letting Barkley walk.  Image if they trade down and take Jeanty to replace him.

I am not advocating for that move, but it would be interesting, especially with the resurgence of the importance of the running back.

It isn't the sexy choice, but ironically he would probably be the BPA in such a scenario.
Title: Re: Ashton Jeanty
Post by: MrGap92 on March 27, 2025, 11:28:02 AM
I am hoping they land Raheim Sanders, him and Tracy would be a good duo.
Title: Re: Ashton Jeanty
Post by: MightyGiants on March 27, 2025, 11:28:48 AM
Quote from: MrGap92 on March 27, 2025, 11:27:11 AMIt isn't the sexy choice, but ironically he would probably be the BPA in such a scenario.

If (and I appreciate it's a big if) the Giants can improve their O-line, adding Jeanty could potentially have the biggest impact on the team.  We saw what Barkley did for the Eagles.
Title: Re: Ashton Jeanty
Post by: madbadger on March 27, 2025, 11:56:06 AM
Quote from: Puffy on March 27, 2025, 11:18:20 AMThis is where I am at.  Tracy seems best suited as a combo back.  More Kareem Hunt rather than Nick Chubb (styles are different but my point is the second "lead" of 2 headed monster).  I'd like to get the Chubb portion of that monster.

I'd love a shot at Cam Skattebo.  Dude reminds me of a modern-day Rob Carpenter.

Skattebo is an immature child who seriously injured a teammate by being reckless and is now getting sued for it. There a ton of good backs in this draft. No need to take a 22 year old who acts like he's 13. That juice isn't worth the squeeze.
Title: Re: Ashton Jeanty
Post by: MrGap92 on March 27, 2025, 12:05:38 PM
Quote from: madbadger on March 27, 2025, 11:56:06 AMSkattebo is an immature child who seriously injured a teammate by being reckless and is now getting sued for it. There a ton of good backs in this draft. No need to take a 22 year old who acts like he's 13. That juice isn't worth the squeeze.

What is he being sued for, and is there any evidence that he actually did it?
Title: Re: Ashton Jeanty
Post by: madbadger on March 27, 2025, 12:12:34 PM
Quote from: MrGap92 on March 27, 2025, 12:05:38 PMWhat is he being sued for, and is there any evidence that he actually did it?

You have google just like the rest of us.
Title: Re: Ashton Jeanty
Post by: MightyGiants on March 27, 2025, 12:16:17 PM
Quote from: MrGap92 on March 27, 2025, 12:05:38 PMWhat is he being sued for, and is there any evidence that he actually did it?

Cam Skattebo, Arizona State Sued for $300K Over Golf Cart Incident
The suit claims the star running back injured a teammate by jumping on a golf cart and causing it to collapse in July 2023.

Cam Skattebo has become as elusive to lawyers as he is to opposing defenses.

The former Arizona State running back has been added to a lawsuit against the school brought by former teammate Mattheos Katergaris, after the plaintiff's lawyers spent weeks trying to serve him with papers.

In the suit, Katergaris claims Skattebo injured him in a July 2023 practice incident involving a golf cart.

The suit alleges that Skattebo jumped repeatedly on the back of a golf cart Katergaris was on with another player, causing the cart to collapse and Katergaris to rupture his triceps tendon.

Katergaris, a walk-on offensive lineman, hasn't played since and says he still has pain from the injury.

Skattebo, who finished fifth in Heisman voting last year, is being sued for one count of negligence resulting in injury along with ASU and the Arizona Board of Regents. Katergaris is seeking $300,000 in damages due to medical bills that are still unpaid. Skattebo was recently added as a third defendant on Jan. 27, weeks after the Sun Devils season ended in the College Football Playoff with a double-overtime loss to Texas.

The Arizona Board of Regents acknowledged Skattebo's actions in a February response to the complaint after he was added to the case, which said it "has reason to believe Defendant Skattebo boarded the back of the golf cart while two other players were sitting on the rear section," and that "Plaintiff ended up on the ground, and that this may have been due to a fall."

https://frontofficesports.com/skattebo-arizona-state-golf-cart-lawsuit/
Title: Re: Ashton Jeanty
Post by: MightyGiants on March 27, 2025, 12:21:57 PM
https://x.com/JFowlerESPN/status/1905268038204535271
Title: Re: Ashton Jeanty
Post by: MightyGiants on March 27, 2025, 12:27:04 PM
Quote from: madbadger on March 27, 2025, 11:56:06 AMSkattebo is an immature child who seriously injured a teammate by being reckless and is now getting sued for it. There a ton of good backs in this draft. No need to take a 22 year old who acts like he's 13. That juice isn't worth the squeeze.

I posted the information.  I am sorry, but this is the sort of thing that would be filed under boys will be boys (especially young men who are paid to play a game for a living) rather than some sort of indication of a character flaw or shortcoming.
Title: Re: Ashton Jeanty
Post by: madbadger on March 27, 2025, 12:36:54 PM
Quote from: MightyGiants on March 27, 2025, 12:27:04 PMI posted the information.  I am sorry, but this is the sort of thing that would be filed under boys will be boys (especially young men who are paid to play a game for a living) rather than some sort of indication of a character flaw or shortcoming.

You missed the reports that the teammate didn't intend to sue him initially but added him to the suit when he found out that Skattebo was making fun of the kid and his injury to teammates. You end a kids career, cause him to have to undergo reconstructive surgery and then treat it like a joke. No thanks. Don't want that on my roster when there are guys just as good who'll be available in the second or third round.
Title: Re: Ashton Jeanty
Post by: MightyGiants on March 27, 2025, 12:42:55 PM
Quote from: madbadger on March 27, 2025, 12:36:54 PMYou missed the reports that the teammate didn't intend to sue him initially but added him to the suit when he found out that Skattebo was making fun of the kid and his injury to teammates. You end a kids career, cause him to have to undergo reconstructive surgery and then treat it like a joke. No thanks. Don't want that on my roster when there are guys just as good who'll be available in the second or third round.

I couldn't find any reference to insults or mockery.  How did you obtain that information?
Title: Re: Ashton Jeanty
Post by: MrGap92 on March 27, 2025, 12:53:53 PM
Quote from: madbadger on March 27, 2025, 12:36:54 PMYou missed the reports that the teammate didn't intend to sue him initially but added him to the suit when he found out that Skattebo was making fun of the kid and his injury to teammates. You end a kids career, cause him to have to undergo reconstructive surgery and then treat it like a joke. No thanks. Don't want that on my roster when there are guys just as good who'll be available in the second or third round.

Maybe if you provided the source like the "rest of us" typically do when we mention things or bring new topics of discussion up....
Title: Re: Ashton Jeanty
Post by: madbadger on March 27, 2025, 01:17:13 PM
Quote from: MrGap92 on March 27, 2025, 12:53:53 PMMaybe if you provided the source like the "rest of us" typically do when we mention things or bring new topics of discussion up....

I don't have unlimited time through the day to post stuff here. A quick google search would have answered your question.
Title: Re: Ashton Jeanty
Post by: madbadger on March 27, 2025, 01:18:03 PM
Quote from: MightyGiants on March 27, 2025, 12:42:55 PMI couldn't find any reference to insults or mockery.  How did you obtain that information?

It's in the lawsuit. It was posted on Reddit. Don't know if it's still there.
Title: Re: Ashton Jeanty
Post by: MrGap92 on March 27, 2025, 01:24:29 PM
Quote from: madbadger on March 27, 2025, 01:17:13 PMI don't have unlimited time through the day to post stuff here. A quick google search would have answered your question.

MG did, found nothing.

I tried, also nothing

Doesn't seem to be a thing that exists anywhere, not saying you made it up, but wherever you saw it, does not appear to have any credibility.
Title: Re: Ashton Jeanty
Post by: MightyGiants on March 27, 2025, 01:26:58 PM
Quote from: madbadger on March 27, 2025, 01:18:03 PMIt's in the lawsuit. It was posted on Reddit. Don't know if it's still there.

It seems more likely he was added to the suit because it appears the RB is in for a big payday


QuoteSkattebo wasn't named in the original complaint, which was made in May 2024. However, it has been amended twice – most recently on Jan. 27, 2025 – when Skattebo was added as a defendant.

At the time, Skattebo was just two weeks removed from a breakout senior season at Arizona State, during which he ran for 1,711 yards and 21 touchdowns while leading the Sun Devils to a College Football Playoff berth. He is expected to be selected during the 2025 NFL draft, and potentially early on in it.

Udulutch insisted the timing of Skattebo's addition to the lawsuit was merely coincidental.

"I'm aware of the speculation and how that looks, but I can't comment on the rationalization," Udulutch told The Republic. "All I can say is that we became aware that it was actually him that was on the back of the golf court, jumping up and down, according to my client."

The guy making the statement is the plaintiff's lawyer

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2025/03/05/cam-skattebo-lawsuit-arizona-state-injury/81642397007/
Title: Re: Ashton Jeanty
Post by: MightyGiants on March 28, 2025, 12:15:49 PM
https://x.com/The33rdTeamFB/status/1905653378924888420
Title: Re: Ashton Jeanty
Post by: sooners56 on March 28, 2025, 12:32:39 PM
It is a great draft to get a very good RB in Rounds 3 and later. No need for Jeanty early in the 1st!
Title: Re: Ashton Jeanty
Post by: kartanoman on March 28, 2025, 04:23:26 PM
Quote from: MightyGiants on March 27, 2025, 12:27:04 PMI posted the information.  I am sorry, but this is the sort of thing that would be filed under boys will be boys (especially young men who are paid to play a game for a living) rather than some sort of indication of a character flaw or shortcoming.

It was a dumb-a$$ thing to do and there's definitely cause and effect which ties Katergaris' injury to the incident and action Skattebo took by jumping repeatedly on the back of the cart which was clearly marked "Maximum two people ride, 600 pound capacity."

Because the incident happened on ASU property, the University is most definitely liable. But I believe the civil suit against Skattebo is to capture funds for medical and related bills not paid for by the university, as well as pain and suffering.

Because ASU was ultimately liable, as it was their grounds, their football program and, logically, their cart, unless Arizona law provides a precedence a player can sue another while both signed agreements with the University to play football under their terms and conditions, which undoubtedly have statements on liability, I'm struggling to understand the legal precedent on which they bring this case forward. I feel for the young man, and can empathize what it is like to not have an extremity work you like it once had (i.e. my own left leg after six surgeries, bills), but the University did provide care and the real argument is whether the plaintiff can prove negligence on the medical staff, which required them seeking medical attention outside ASU, or can ASU play the "Patient Not Compliant" game.

As for Skattebo, the incident was a dumb, stupid thing young jock straps do and he should have been punished by the University at the time. Maybe he was and that will eventually come out. But I do find the timing of the ammendment of the lawsuit peculiar, not being disrespectful to the plaintiff, but unless there was discovery which provided them a path to sue Skattebo directly, and they only discovered it recently, then the timing is indeed interesting.

Note this incident was two years ago and its impact must have scared his a$$ straight because he's been a model citizen out here since.

If the court eventually finds him liable, then good for Katergaris because he and his family should never have been put in a position of having to file a lawsuit in the first place. Regardless, even if they dismiss the case on Skattebo, ASU needs to pick up the tab for all medical bills at a bare minimum. It doesn't matter if the kid was a walk-on. He was part of that team and deserved to be treated as such. It's unfortunate that he has had no other recourse but to go this route to be given that respect he justly earned.

Like or hate Skattebo, the law will adjudicate this matter. Cam has to live with the consequences for his actions the rest of his life and all the NFL money in the world won't change that.

Whether the Giants pick him or not, he's going to have a career in the NFL and, if he can successfully reconcile this issue from his past, he should have no problem becoming a key back for an NFL team.

Peace!
Title: Re: Ashton Jeanty
Post by: Philosophers on March 28, 2025, 05:57:54 PM
If the Giants traded back to 6 or 7, would they consider Jeanty?
Title: Re: Ashton Jeanty
Post by: Topshelf21 on March 29, 2025, 08:19:21 AM
Quote from: Philosophers on March 28, 2025, 05:57:54 PMIf the Giants traded back to 6 or 7, would they consider Jeanty?

Not if Schoen wants to keep his job or extend it beyond the 1st round!

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Title: Re: Ashton Jeanty
Post by: MightyGiants on March 29, 2025, 01:17:21 PM
Quote from: Philosophers on March 28, 2025, 05:57:54 PMIf the Giants traded back to 6 or 7, would they consider Jeanty?

Would you sign up for this?

(https://i.imgur.com/UC06xpc.png)
Title: Re: Ashton Jeanty
Post by: PSUBeirut on March 29, 2025, 01:22:11 PM
I'd assume on this board it would be a hard no on drafting a RB in the top ten, since we've just for years gone through all the drama surrounding that idea and how awful it is. 

Of course, it would be pretty damn ironic if Saquon left, was a leading factor for changing the league's perspective about the value of the RB position (and the corresponding money it should be paid), and then the Giants follow this new thinking and draft a RB in the top ten.   :P  :P  :P
Title: Re: Ashton Jeanty
Post by: spiderblue43 on March 29, 2025, 03:33:38 PM
He's a classic Jerrah pick..he won't last past Dallas. no? Yes.they need a compliment to Lamb but they can add that later. Star power Jones can't resist.
Title: Re: Ashton Jeanty
Post by: Rosehill Jimmy on March 30, 2025, 01:07:32 PM
Quote from: MightyGiants on March 29, 2025, 01:17:21 PMWould you sign up for this?

(https://i.imgur.com/UC06xpc.png)

Not unless I knew who else was available at #s 7 & 34
Title: Re: Ashton Jeanty
Post by: y_so_blu on March 30, 2025, 10:56:09 PM
Too rich for our blood. Would be Barkley all over again, i.e. poor use of draft capital for a team needing help in so many areas.

I would like Kyle Monongai in the 6th or 7th round though. He breaks tackles very well for being just 211, and has the frame to handle frequent snaps.
Title: Re: Ashton Jeanty
Post by: EDjohnst1981 on March 31, 2025, 05:49:18 AM
No point drafting a RB that high, unless you believe that Schoen has fixed the O-line.
Title: Re: Ashton Jeanty
Post by: MightyGiants on March 31, 2025, 10:20:57 AM
While I believe Jeanty is a longshot, I do believe NYG will be drafting another RB


https://x.com/DanSchneierNFL/status/1906709179361821178
Title: Re: Ashton Jeanty
Post by: MrGap92 on March 31, 2025, 10:35:43 AM
Quote from: MightyGiants on March 29, 2025, 01:17:21 PMWould you sign up for this?

(https://i.imgur.com/UC06xpc.png)

Change Shough to a different QB and I can buy into this. Not sure we have room on the roster for 2 RBs, but arguable a top BPA at 99.
Title: Re: Ashton Jeanty
Post by: MightyGiants on March 31, 2025, 10:37:11 AM
Quote from: MrGap92 on March 31, 2025, 10:35:43 AMChange Shough to a different QB and I can buy into this. Not sure we have room on the roster for 2 RBs, but arguable a top BPA at 99.

I will admit the second RB was a mistake.