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Title: Brian Daboll, One of NFL's Best and Most Underrated?
Post by: Painter on March 30, 2025, 12:58:25 PM
So said retired NFL wideout T.J. Houshmandzadeh in a recent segment on FOX Sports. He believes Daboll to be a top coach and one of the NFL's most underrated, an opinion I have seen shared by other folks in the League.

It could be true, it's certainly possible. In any case, he should have a pretty good, and a better chance to prove it this year, and he damn well may have to.

Cheers!
Title: Re: Brian Daboll, One of NFL's Best and Most Underrated?
Post by: DaveBrown74 on March 30, 2025, 01:04:45 PM
He is certainly under the gun this year.

I struggle to understand how a coach who just fairly recently took down NFL Coach of The Year honors could be called "underrated" though.
Title: Re: Brian Daboll, One of NFL's Best and Most Underrated?
Post by: Philosophers on March 30, 2025, 01:08:02 PM
Quote from: Painter on March 30, 2025, 12:58:25 PMSo said retired NFL wideout T.J. Houshmandzadeh in a recent segment on FOX Sports. He believes Daboll to be a top coach and one of the NFL's most underrated, an opinion I have seen shared by other folks in the League.

It could be true, it's certainly possible. In any case, he should have a pretty good, and a better chance to prove it this year, and he damn well may have to.

Cheers!


Top coach or top head coach?  Difference.
Title: Re: Brian Daboll, One of NFL's Best and Most Underrated?
Post by: LennG on March 30, 2025, 01:58:53 PM
Quote from: Painter on March 30, 2025, 12:58:25 PMSo said retired NFL wideout T.J. Houshmandzadeh in a recent segment on FOX Sports. He believes Daboll to be a top coach and one of the NFL's most underrated, an opinion I have seen shared by other folks in the League.

It could be true, it's certainly possible. In any case, he should have a pretty good, and a better chance to prove it this year, and he damn well may have to.

Cheers!


You know Larry. I was like a swinging door about him last year, going from' giving him another shot with a decent  QB' to 'don't let the door hit you on the way out. ' He had games where we just sat there scratching our heads about some of the moves he made, regardless of who the QB was and other games he really tried to inspire our guys who were completely overwhelmed most of the time.
Mara said give him another chance, and with a new QB, he will have to produce. If he is, as was said he was, we should be a much better team out there, but there are no more excuses for him.
Title: Re: Brian Daboll, One of NFL's Best and Most Underrated?
Post by: katkavage on March 30, 2025, 04:21:13 PM
How many wins makes him a great head coach this season? 9? 10? If he accomplishes that against the schedule they have now, he deserves accolades. But 5 wins? 6? Or even 7? Does he deserve to return? Will there be more excuses? As of now based on his dismal record he is far from a great head coach. Though he might actually be a great assistant coach.
Title: Re: Brian Daboll, One of NFL's Best and Most Underrated?
Post by: DaveBrown74 on March 30, 2025, 04:32:14 PM
Quote from: katkavage on March 30, 2025, 04:21:13 PMHow many wins makes him a great head coach this season? 9? 10? If he accomplishes that against the schedule they have now, he deserves accolades. But 5 wins? 6? Or even 7? Does he deserve to return? Will there be more excuses? As of now based on his dismal record he is far from a great head coach. Though he might actually be a great assistant coach.

I think six wins or fewer automatically gets him fired, and there will be a decent chance Schoen does as well.

7 or 8 wins and I think it depends on a how the season plays out exactly. Nothing automatic with either of these outcomes.

9 wins or more (ie a winning record), and I am pretty certain everyone comes back. Especially if they make the playoffs.
Title: Re: Brian Daboll, One of NFL's Best and Most Underrated?
Post by: Painter on March 30, 2025, 05:55:08 PM
9 wins and he'll he may get another COTY. Why don't we let John Mara make that decision as it is his to make, is it not? Oh wait! I see now, this is a how many wins contest. Yes, of course.

Cheers!
Title: Re: Brian Daboll, One of NFL's Best and Most Underrated?
Post by: MightyGiants on March 30, 2025, 06:00:22 PM
No more Daniel Jones to blame.  This season we will see what sort of coach Daboll is, one way or the other.
Title: Re: Brian Daboll, One of NFL's Best and Most Underrated?
Post by: EDjohnst1981 on March 30, 2025, 06:04:33 PM
When he had his successful season, the Giants played 2 top ten defences.

This season, and at this current juncture, the schedule looks horrendous - if he can win 6 games, I think he'll keep his job.

However, if it comes to playing the hard teams and they are facing back up QBs owing to injuries, and they lose - he won't survive.

All in all, it's really hard to predict until the games have been played.
Title: Re: Brian Daboll, One of NFL's Best and Most Underrated?
Post by: katkavage on March 30, 2025, 06:48:21 PM
Quote from: Painter on March 30, 2025, 05:55:08 PM9 wins and he'll he may get another COTY. Why don't we let John Mara make that decision as it is his to make, is it not? Oh wait! I see now, this is a how many wins contest. Yes, of course.

Cheers!

Sadly, as Giant fans, we do have to let John Mara make that decision. His decisions have put them where they are now.
Title: Re: Brian Daboll, One of NFL's Best and Most Underrated?
Post by: Trench on March 30, 2025, 07:46:45 PM
The problem with Daboll is he lost some of his moxy last year.

Gone was the 1st year gunslinger who went for the 2 point conversion win during week 1. Last year he coached with nerves and uncomfortableness. He was TERRIBLE at challenge vs no challenge and that may be on the people upstairs advising him. He called a lot of strange plays and didn't show consistency
Title: Re: Brian Daboll, One of NFL's Best and Most Underrated?
Post by: MrGap92 on March 30, 2025, 08:31:47 PM
Quote from: Trench on March 30, 2025, 07:46:45 PMThe problem with Daboll is he lost some of his moxy last year.

Gone was the 1st year gunslinger who went for the 2 point conversion win during week 1. Last year he coached with nerves and uncomfortableness. He was TERRIBLE at challenge vs no challenge and that may be on the people upstairs advising him. He called a lot of strange plays and didn't show consistency

Daniel Jones

The offense could not evolve with him.

I think with the new look room, and a restocked defense, we see a much better team all around, let's hope for another strong draft.
Title: Re: Brian Daboll, One of NFL's Best and Most Underrated?
Post by: Jclayton92 on March 30, 2025, 08:48:43 PM
If we fired Daboll at the end of last year, who would we have signed that was better? A retread? I just dont know that there is that many up and coming coordinators right now.
Title: Re: Brian Daboll, One of NFL's Best and Most Underrated?
Post by: katkavage on March 30, 2025, 09:22:04 PM
Quote from: Jclayton92 on March 30, 2025, 08:48:43 PMIf we fired Daboll at the end of last year, who would we have signed that was better? A retread? I just dont know that there is that many up and coming coordinators right now.
You mean better than 3-14?
Title: Re: Brian Daboll, One of NFL's Best and Most Underrated?
Post by: jimc on March 31, 2025, 09:15:28 AM
Quote from: katkavage on March 30, 2025, 09:22:04 PMYou mean better than 3-14?

Yes
Title: Re: Brian Daboll, One of NFL's Best and Most Underrated?
Post by: Jclayton92 on March 31, 2025, 12:25:56 PM
Quote from: katkavage on March 30, 2025, 09:22:04 PMYou mean better than 3-14?
So who you got then? Who was coming in this offseaaon that is a better coach than Daboll that was free to do this offseason?