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Title: Carter VS Graham = Parsons VS Leonard Williams
Post by: MightyGiants on April 02, 2025, 08:48:15 AM
Bobby Skinner (or maybe Nick or Dan) made this comparison.  They appreciate that the two players compared are high comparisons, but the point is that it's a good comparison in terms of relative talent and position played.

So, if you had a choice between getting Parsons or Williams (to add to the team), which would you pick?
Title: Re: Carter VS Graham = Parsons VS Leonard Williams
Post by: ozzie on April 02, 2025, 08:54:49 AM
Parsons. We should have drafted him when we had the chance.
Title: Re: Carter VS Graham = Parsons VS Leonard Williams
Post by: Bob In PA on April 02, 2025, 11:04:26 AM
Quote from: MightyGiants on April 02, 2025, 08:48:15 AMBobby Skinner (or maybe Nick or Dan) made this comparison.  They appreciate that the two players compared are high comparisons, but the point is that it's a good comparison in terms of relative talent and position played.

So, if you had a choice between getting Parsons or Williams (to add to the team), which would you pick?

Rich: It's hard to make those types of comparisons, but in this case I almost agree.

I believe Graham will prove to be a better pass rusher than Williams, so the analogy is not perfect.

All things considered, IMO this year's choice is a lot more difficult than Parsons v. Williams, and it's even more so for the Giants because there's a VERY good chance both will be there for Schoen.

Bob
Title: Re: Carter VS Graham = Parsons VS Leonard Williams
Post by: MightyGiants on April 02, 2025, 11:12:35 AM
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Title: Re: Carter VS Graham = Parsons VS Leonard Williams
Post by: Philosophers on April 02, 2025, 11:22:06 AM
I think the Vonn Miller comp is better.  Parsons to me has more of an LT "I'll go through you" aggressive mindset whereas Carter's skill is more about going around blockers.
Title: Re: Carter VS Graham = Parsons VS Leonard Williams
Post by: Jclayton92 on April 02, 2025, 03:48:00 PM
I think Graham is significantly overrated especially with the depth in this class. It also depends on what you need from you DT whether he's a guy for you. Not many people running a 4-3 these days and that is were he would benefit the most. Just my opinion, I think Carter and Hunter are in a different league than Graham, and I don't think Graham is that far ahead of the next level of Dts in this class with his teammate Grant, and Nolen. Any other class and he's not a top 5-7 pick.
Title: Re: Carter VS Graham = Parsons VS Leonard Williams
Post by: MightyGiants on April 02, 2025, 03:54:40 PM
Quote from: Jclayton92 on April 02, 2025, 03:48:00 PMI think Graham is significantly overrated especially with the depth in this class. It also depends on what you need from you DT whether he's a guy for you. Not many people running a 4-3 these days and that is were he would benefit the most. Just my opinion, I think Carter and Hunter are in a different league than Graham, and I don't think Graham is that far ahead of the next level of Dts in this class with his teammate Grant, and Nolen. Any other class and he's not a top 5-7 pick.

The real question should be:  Three years from now, which player would you be happier to have drafted?  Needs come and go, but good players are the key to winning.
Title: Re: Carter VS Graham = Parsons VS Leonard Williams
Post by: MrGap92 on April 02, 2025, 04:09:57 PM
Quote from: Jclayton92 on April 02, 2025, 03:48:00 PMI think Graham is significantly overrated especially with the depth in this class. It also depends on what you need from you DT whether he's a guy for you. Not many people running a 4-3 these days and that is were he would benefit the most. Just my opinion, I think Carter and Hunter are in a different league than Graham, and I don't think Graham is that far ahead of the next level of Dts in this class with his teammate Grant, and Nolen. Any other class and he's not a top 5-7 pick.

I agree 110% on Graham being very overrated. I would be upset if he were the pick at 3. I actually like Grant more, not just for value, but overall upside as well
Title: Re: Carter VS Graham = Parsons VS Leonard Williams
Post by: Bob In PA on April 03, 2025, 07:57:48 AM
Quote from: Jclayton92 on April 02, 2025, 03:48:00 PMI think Graham is significantly overrated especially with the depth in this class. It also depends on what you need from you DT whether he's a guy for you. Not many people running a 4-3 these days and that is were he would benefit the most. Just my opinion, I think Carter and Hunter are in a different league than Graham, and I don't think Graham is that far ahead of the next level of Dts in this class with his teammate Grant, and Nolen. Any other class and he's not a top 5-7 pick.

j: I know you do, and I see it in some of his tape, but consider this... he is one of those guys who has heavy wrestling experience. His angles/leverage make his play better than his current body. When playing football becomes a full-time job (and the trainers tighten up a few "loose ends" in his physical condition, he has a great chance of reaching his ceiling, which is high. Bob