https://x.com/art_stapleton/status/1924863090077598019
44 was also work by the late Doug Kotar.
Quote from: President Rick on May 20, 2025, 01:02:55 PM44 was also work by the late Doug Kotar.
and Maurice Carthon
And Ahmaad Bradshaw (which I believe he mentioned during the interview).
Showing my age but 44 to me is always Kyle Rote.
Quote from: Gman329 on May 20, 2025, 02:18:44 PMShowing my age but 44 to me is always Kyle Rote.
329: One of my all-time favorite Giants. Bob
Sort of getting a little tired of all things Skatteboo. Let's see him perform in the NFL before all this attention. I want to see him bounce off NFL tacklers before I am convinced he genuinely can.
Quote from: Philosophers on May 22, 2025, 02:50:12 AMSort of getting a little tired of all things Skatteboo. Let's see him perform in the NFL before all this attention. I want to see him bounce off NFL tacklers before I am convinced he genuinely can.
I agree here. I think it's because us Giants fans are a little desperate for anything positive concerning our team.
Quote from: jimc on May 22, 2025, 06:12:25 AMI agree here. I think it's because us Giants fans are a little desperate for anything positive concerning our team.
I know folks talk about his great contact balance but it was in an inferior conference defensively plus I do not see him as a very plus athlete. Being a tough runner in college is far from being Marshawn The Beast Lynch.
@jimc and
@Philosophers My excitement for Skattebo is based on what I saw on tape and the reality that Skattebo was their offense. That was all opposing defenses were focused on stopping and they consistently failed as Skattebo (unlike the highly touted QBs and some of the highly touted RBs) led his team to the college playoffs.
As for the 40 time (really the only measure that was an outlier) consider this from Google AI
While a blazing 40-yard dash time is often associated with NFL running back success, several players have thrived despite running a 4.65 or slower at the NFL Combine. Here's a look at some successful NFL running backs who weren't known for their elite speed: Successful NFL Running Backs with 4.65 or Slower 40-Times:- Le'Veon Bell
: A patient runner with excellent vision and receiving skills, Bell ran a 4.60. He was known for his unique running style, which involved hesitation moves and changes of direction at the line of scrimmage. - Kareem Hunt
: Hunt, with a 4.62, showcased impressive contact balance and the ability to break tackles. His ability to gain yards after contact was a major factor in his success. - James Conner
: Conner ran a 4.65 and has proven to be a powerful and determined runner, excelling in short-yardage situations and as a receiver. His determination and resilience, both on and off the field, have made him a fan favorite. - Alfred Morris
: Morris, with a 4.67, relied on his vision, footwork, and downhill running style to achieve success in the NFL. He was known for his consistency and reliability, especially during his early years with the Washington Redskins. - Arian Foster
: Foster ran a 4.69 and was an exceptional talent, showcasing great vision, agility, and receiving skills. His intelligence and understanding of the game allowed him to excel despite not having top-end speed. - Eddie Lacy
: While Lacy's career was impacted by weight issues, he had moments of brilliance, running a 4.64, showcasing his power and ability to break tackles. When in shape, Lacy was a force to be reckoned with, combining power with surprising agility for his size.
Why These Running Backs Succeeded Despite Slower 40 Times:- Vision and Elusiveness: Many successful running backs with slower 40 times, like Bell and Foster, compensate with exceptional vision and the ability to make defenders miss in tight spaces. Their ability to anticipate holes and change direction quickly is more valuable than pure speed.
- Power and Contact Balance: Players like Lacy and Conner have the strength and contact balance to break tackles and gain yards after contact.
- Pass-Catching Ability: Several of these backs are excellent receivers, adding another dimension to their game and making them valuable assets in the passing game.
- Football IQ and Instincts: Intelligence and a deep understanding of the game can often make up for a lack of top-end speed, allowing these players to make smart decisions and maximize their opportunities.
In conclusion, while speed is a valuable asset for NFL running backs, it's not the only factor determining success. Vision, elusiveness, power, receiving skills, and football IQ can all contribute to a productive NFL career, even for players who may not be the fastest on the field.
The number 44 is the most revered number at Syracuse Football. Only the best get to wear the number that was worn by (maybe you've heard of them) Jim Brown, Ernie Davis, and Floyd Little...who are enshrined in the College Football Hall of Fame and honored with statues on Plaza 44, outside the Ensley Athletic Center
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https://x.com/NFLPA/status/1925600101784785227
Love Kay Adams.
Quote from: files58 on May 22, 2025, 01:46:57 PMLove Kay Adams.
LOL - beautiful gal - redefines the term, "high maintenance" (I suspect anyway)
Quote from: MightyGiants on May 22, 2025, 09:11:18 AM@jimc and @Philosophers
My excitement for Skattebo is based on what I saw on tape and the reality that Skattebo was their offense. That was all opposing defenses were focused on stopping and they consistently failed as Skattebo (unlike the highly touted QBs and some of the highly touted RBs) led his team to the college playoffs.
As for the 40 time (really the only measure that was an outlier) consider this from Google AI
While a blazing 40-yard dash time is often associated with NFL running back success, several players have thrived despite running a 4.65 or slower at the NFL Combine. Here's a look at some successful NFL running backs who weren't known for their elite speed:
Successful NFL Running Backs with 4.65 or Slower 40-Times:
- Le'Veon Bell
: A patient runner with excellent vision and receiving skills, Bell ran a 4.60. He was known for his unique running style, which involved hesitation moves and changes of direction at the line of scrimmage. - Kareem Hunt
: Hunt, with a 4.62, showcased impressive contact balance and the ability to break tackles. His ability to gain yards after contact was a major factor in his success. - James Conner
: Conner ran a 4.65 and has proven to be a powerful and determined runner, excelling in short-yardage situations and as a receiver. His determination and resilience, both on and off the field, have made him a fan favorite. - Alfred Morris
: Morris, with a 4.67, relied on his vision, footwork, and downhill running style to achieve success in the NFL. He was known for his consistency and reliability, especially during his early years with the Washington Redskins. - Arian Foster
: Foster ran a 4.69 and was an exceptional talent, showcasing great vision, agility, and receiving skills. His intelligence and understanding of the game allowed him to excel despite not having top-end speed. - Eddie Lacy
: While Lacy's career was impacted by weight issues, he had moments of brilliance, running a 4.64, showcasing his power and ability to break tackles. When in shape, Lacy was a force to be reckoned with, combining power with surprising agility for his size.
Why These Running Backs Succeeded Despite Slower 40 Times:
- Vision and Elusiveness: Many successful running backs with slower 40 times, like Bell and Foster, compensate with exceptional vision and the ability to make defenders miss in tight spaces. Their ability to anticipate holes and change direction quickly is more valuable than pure speed.
- Power and Contact Balance: Players like Lacy and Conner have the strength and contact balance to break tackles and gain yards after contact.
- Pass-Catching Ability: Several of these backs are excellent receivers, adding another dimension to their game and making them valuable assets in the passing game.
- Football IQ and Instincts: Intelligence and a deep understanding of the game can often make up for a lack of top-end speed, allowing these players to make smart decisions and maximize their opportunities.
In conclusion, while speed is a valuable asset for NFL running backs, it's not the only factor determining success. Vision, elusiveness, power, receiving skills, and football IQ can all contribute to a productive NFL career, even for players who may not be the fastest on the field.
Agree Rich. We know he is not a speedster at NFL level. We dont know if he has those attributes you listed at an NFL level. Hoping he does.
The guy almost single handedly beat Texas with NFL talent all over it.
30 rushes for 143 yards
8 receptions for 99 yards
1 pass for 42 yards
And 3 Tds
Vs a top 5 defense in the country.
Also
170 yards vs Iowa St
177 yards vs Arizona
147 yards vs BYU
262 yards vs Miss St
182 yards vs Kansas
158 yards vs Utah
153 yards vs OK St + 121 yards receiving
He was THE offense at Arizona St and teams still couldn't stop him, with a pedestrian oline.
There is a lot to be optimistic about.
https://x.com/CFBAlerts_/status/1925588641469882416?t=hknIn3gVmp5X3AD33O0Tcw&s=19
Changing the culture
You think a huddle of Nabers, Dart, and Skattebo are going to settle for average?