Because nothing bad happens for the Giants when they do that show :laugh:
https://x.com/AlbertBreer/status/1925239277538947198
I love more Giants content, I would just prefer it from the Giants youtube, not Hard Knocks.
https://x.com/StreamOnMax/status/1925243371729145973
I thought the reaction was a bit overrated last year, hopefully the in season one is better received, I don't mind extra stuff to watch or discuss either.
I guess it will be across the division, so it will be spread between 4 teams.
https://x.com/clt_ny/status/1925264515987284279
Quote from: MrGap92 on May 21, 2025, 01:44:57 PMI thought the reaction was a bit overrated last year, hopefully the in season one is better received, I don't mind extra stuff to watch or discuss either.
I guess it will be across the division, so it will be spread between 4 teams.
I thought it was way overblown. If they were coming off a 12 win season, it would have been a non-issue.
In season hard knocks in December, for a team coming off a 3 win season with the most difficult schedule in the NFL after hyping their fanbase into a bullish frenzy after the draft and free agency.
I don't see how this can go badly .... /sarcasm/
Quote from: Crypto Fareez on May 21, 2025, 03:26:21 PMIn season hard knocks in December, for a team coming off a 3 win season with the most difficult schedule in the NFL after hyping their fanbase into a bullish frenzy after the draft and free agency.
I don't see how this can go badly .... /sarcasm/
Having the toughest schedule really really really sucks. If the team faced an average difficulty schedule, this is could be a 7-9 win team. With this schedule, wins are going to be tough to come by.
Might be seeing
Head coach Mike Kafka
Interim GM Brandon Brown
Starting qb Jaxson Dart
I have been watching the Giants since 1987, I am not going anywhere. They could lose every game for a decade and I would still be here talking about them with total strangers.
Someday.....
the sweet will not be as sweet without the sour. I can promise that. When our day comes, this board will be lit and it's going to be amazing.
The schedule is no cake walk, but it is not as bad as people are making it out to be.
Last years SOS means very little, it varies wildly each and every year and far too much weight gets put on it. Its often based on the 2024 version of the opponents, VS the 2024 version of the Giants
new year, new teams
Not amazing news. But of all the teams in the East, we are likely to have the most "drama" (Daboll and Schoen hot seats, whether to start Dart, three prominent edge guys, etc.) which means we have the most storylines. Expect cameras at 1925 Giants Way.
Quote from: MrGap92 on May 21, 2025, 04:47:00 PMThe schedule is no cake walk, but it is not as bad as people are making it out to be.
Last years SOS means very little, it varies wildly each and every year and far too much weight gets put on it. Its often based on the 2024 version of the opponents, VS the 2024 version of the Giants
new year, new teams
The Giants also have the hardest schedule if you use projected win totals (which in theory, should be more accurate).
I guess John Mara didn't have the cojones to say "not only no but ... (insert expletive here) NO!"
But shows like this are really less about John Mara and more about the Giants' Communications Organization. Now, if folks here are hell bent to break Ronnie Barnes' chops for every boo-boo a Giants' player, coach, ball boy or janitor incurs on the job (NOTE: and off the job, as well), then I must declare that the Senior Vice President of Communications, Pat Hanlon, got off unscathed after the last "Hard Knocks" media disaster. To be fair, I did not watch the Giants' "Hard Knocks" series, nor will I ever plan to, as this "Hard Knocks" format NFL Films created just doesn't appeal to me at all. As I've said in the past, I'm more nostalgia-driven and NFL Films became an Emmy Award-winning machine by virtue of the late, great, legendary Father-Son pairing of Ed and Steve Sabol. But Steve's creative side, leveraging news presenter John Facenda, and the breathtaking Big Band Composer and Conductor, Sam Spence and his circle of professionals, complemented by the now-iconic stock production music of its day (e.g. KPM Music Library, Music de Wolfe LP Library, Sonoton, Chappell and countless others) to show pro football to fans, and everyday people, in a manner and style which had never been seen before ... and they loved it and wanted more! The birth story of NFL Films was this from the Sabols outbidding all comers to have the job of filming the 1962 NFL World Professional Title Game at Yankee Stadium in what came to be known as "Pro Football's Longest Day." But now I have clearly digressed into the Romanticism the Sabols have mastered into their best NFL Films programs and, now that they are gone, their legacy lives on forever as long we have NFL Films to take us back to the fondest of days we remember in Giants' lore. It is OUR loss that today's NFL Films can only produce hollow production efforts lacking substance and soul.
Where have you gone, Ed and Steve? We miss you!
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Quote from: MightyGiants on May 21, 2025, 06:00:22 PMThe Giants also have the hardest schedule if you use projected win totals (which in theory, should be more accurate).
Fair, the way I see it, is on paper the Giants have made significant improvements, and have made moves that were smart, and with real upside. Meanwhile, alot of these teams, more or less look the same to me or worse, no one on the schedule strikes me as "oh they have improved significantly", so to me put that all together alongside how many of their games last year were competitive and/or close, that's a net positive.
The Eagles will surely be a very good team, but they overhauled alot of the roster, some staff changes, so at best, I think they too will be equal to last years outfit.
I could very well be wrong, I'm also projecting in a sense I suppose, I just don't view it as daunting as most.
I can't be surprised at 5 wins, but I also would not be surprised at 10-11 either. I guess we will see. I just feel we may have finally closed the talent gap vs alot of these teams and especially the division.
Quote from: MrGap92 on May 21, 2025, 07:47:44 PMFair, the way I see it, is on paper the Giants have made significant improvements, and have made moves that were smart, and with real upside. Meanwhile, alot of these teams, more or less look the same to me or worse, no one on the schedule strikes me as "oh they have improved significantly", so to me put that all together alongside how many of their games last year were competitive and/or close, that's a net positive.
The Eagles will surely be a very good team, but they overhauled alot of the roster, some staff changes, so at best, I think they too will be equal to last years outfit.
I could very well be wrong, I'm also projecting in a sense I suppose, I just don't view it as daunting as most.
I can't be surprised at 5 wins, but I also would not be surprised at 10-11 either. I guess we will see. I just feel we may have finally closed the talent gap vs alot of these teams and especially the division.
In the end all of this is just an exercise in trying to predict the future. None of us are really capable of doing that regularly with any sort of accuracy. So all we can do is give our predictions and explain our reasoning. It's not really proper to pretend any of us know better than another in these sorts of exercises. As you suggested uncertainty is high.
Quote from: MightyGiants on May 21, 2025, 08:08:51 PMIn the end all of this is just an exercise in trying to predict the future. None of us are really capable of doing that regularly with any sort of accuracy. So all we can do is give our predictions and explain our reasoning. It's not really proper to pretend any of us know better than another in these sorts of exercises. As you suggested uncertainty is high.
I agree with your premise, Rich
@MightyGiants , and that is not at all to dismiss what
@MrGap92 is saying here. Like you've stated, identifying what we KNOW, we can use principles of Risk/Isse/Opportunity Management. What we DO NOT KNOW, we use principles of managing Uncertainty which, in many cases, involves analyzing the variables and probability weights and measures to gain a baseline. As unknown variables become known, we can update the model accordingly to increase the confidence in its output. But enough of the academia part of it.
I've attempted to use a top-down leadership Mission Statement to Values, Behaviors, Strategies, Strategic Imperatives and so on, to establish alignment that what you see happening on the field SHOULD seamlessly align with the Values, Behaviors, Mission Statement and, most important, the culture of the entire company, organization, enterprise or however you choose to describe your top-echelon entity. That's why I try to use "Imperatives" which I believe are necessary for the Giants to strive towards, and MEET or EXCEED AT, in order to have any chance for success not only on the playing field, but in each of the respective organizations under the "Board." They're broad but, in reality, are too detailed at the Mara/Tisch level. At Schoen's level, some are, some are not. But I'm just using these freely to underscore three areas I believe the Giants must improve on in order to achieve success. I'm not going to list them here as they can be found in many of my older posts.
But I am quite curious to learn what are fellow posters here consider important to them in terms of "Metrics that Matter" as far as the Giants' ability to succeed. If someone believes Strength of Schedule, from last season's performance, has relevance in predicting 2025 performance, I would be very interested in hearing about it as I know you would.
Keep 'em coming! Why does 2024 performance, with players from 2024, who may or may not be on the same teams in 2025, correlate to performance in 2025?
Did any of us expect the Commanders to go the NFC Championship Game last year? How would we have predicted that last season?
Peace!